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Old 01-17-2010, 07:05 PM   #1
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How many of you webmasters started with....

Free hosts... how many of you started this way.. I started with 110mb.com so you see these free hosts are a good starting place for newbie porn webmasters
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Old 01-17-2010, 07:08 PM   #2
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Old 01-17-2010, 07:15 PM   #5
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Same here.

Keep in mind this was 1997, and I was just starting in the internet game and tinkering with shit. I never went to school for what I do now, simply learned it along the way. Including html, among other things. The web was the wild west back then, it was the 1.0 of the "nobody is going to pay for (fill in the blank)".

Once I started developing real adult pay sites, I went to a shared hosting. Once I had too much material for virtual plans, I moved to dedicated.
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Old 01-17-2010, 07:16 PM   #6
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Same here.

Keep in mind this was 1997, and I was just starting in the internet game and tinkering with shit. I never went to school for what I do now, simply learned it along the way. Including html, among other things. The web was the wild west back then, it was the 1.0 of the "nobody is going to pay for (fill in the blank)".

Once I started developing real adult pay sites, I went to a shared hosting. Once I had too much material for virtual plans, I moved to dedicated.
See I think this is a good way for a new webmasters to do things, start with nothing and work your way up. It gives you so much more experience and you learn so much along the way. I see new webmasters come along and spend a shit load of money on dedicated servers posh scripts shit load of advertising and whithin a year they are gone wasted all that money and learned next to nothing
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I started on a freehost and a couple months after I put up my first sites, they were all redirected to their paysites. Then it became clear to me why they were in the freehosting business.
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See I think this is a good way for a new webmasters to do things, start with nothing and work your way up. It gives you so much more experience and you learn so much along the way. I see new webmasters come along and spend a shit load of money on dedicated servers posh scripts shit load of advertising and whithin a year they are gone wasted all that money and learned next to nothing
Agreed.

I personally feel a clip store is the best way to start in today's adult internet. It keeps you expenses under control, other than content, and you can learn some of the basics while getting a return on your investment from the get go. Few things are going to have instant traffic, and sales, from the first day you open. A clip store will.

I think from there, you can move on to pay sites. If you want to go the traditional route, start with someone like B-H-E where they handle processing, dvd store, hosting and provide some shit script.

They, like C4S, take a percentage of the profits assuming you make any. Keeping your start up costs low. However, once you start making any real money. It is much cheaper to get your own host, processing, scripts, and do it yourself.

That said, you're right. There are many many people who blow thousands, or tens of thousands, and never learn the basics to the industry..... converting a sale, driving traffic, SEO and SERPS, among many other skillsets needed.

I guess they think they can just spend their way to success.

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See I think this is a good way for a new webmasters to do things, start with nothing and work your way up. It gives you so much more experience and you learn so much along the way. I see new webmasters come along and spend a shit load of money on dedicated servers posh scripts shit load of advertising and whithin a year they are gone wasted all that money and learned next to nothing
If I had spent the money I had in the beginning on content I think I would be better off. My problem is I took people's advice and became an affiliate, and started shooting for other people. In retrospect, I should have continued with shooting for myself only and running my own paysites.

That's why I don't really listen to what people say anymore about "learning if you can hang as an affiliate before starting your own paysites"... funny thing, I've NEVER been able to hang as an affiliate. I haven't been able to generate even a small fraction of the sales I can generate with my own paysites. Interesting how that works, isn't it?

I can't emphasize enough that I would have been much better off just shooting for myself, and owning my own paysites.

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If I had spent the money I had in the beginning on content I think I would be better off. My problem is I took people's advice and became an affiliate, and started shooting for other people. In retrospect, I should have continued with shooting for myself only and running my own paysites.

That's why I don't really listen to what people say anymore about "learning if you can hang as an affiliate before starting your own paysites"... funny thing, I've NEVER been able to hang as an affiliate. I haven't been able to generate even a small fraction of the sales I can generate with my own paysites. Interesting how that works, isn't it?

I can't emphasize enough that I would have been much better off just shooting for myself, and owning my own paysites.
Dont get me wrong a small percentage of people will come in the biz and know how to make money from the start, but I still think its a good idea to start with nothing and work your way up cause you do learn so much more by doing it that way, you see so many affiliates and program owners just disapear. I guess in the end you gota go with what you think is right at the time
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Agreed chief.

However, I am currently enjoying, or watching, the failings of many people in this industry who never learned over the years. Especially for this economy. So many who never learned how to sell, convert a sale, build a good pay site, shoot good converting content, wrote descriptions properly for SEO and SERPs, or how to drive traffic now floundering before returning to, "the Home of the Whopper".

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I can say this now because it was over 10 years ago, but back then none of the programs (at least from what I saw) said you have to be over 18 to promote them.

So I signed up as a 16 year old... put together galleries from free content I got from other webmasters (via simple email/bbs deals to promote their programs)... and I put SexTracker's counter on all of my galleries and remember cracking the top 10 pages "Universe" with well over 1,000,000 visitors a day across my galleries! I wonder how much money I made Mayor...

Good times! I got some nice stuff off ARS rewards back then too. But I played a very careful dangerous game showing off porn checks to high school buddies! lol. Those were the days. I had a PO Box that everything went to that a 18 year old friend set up. I've come a long way in 10 years wow!

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See I think this is a good way for a new webmasters to do things, start with nothing and work your way up. It gives you so much more experience and you learn so much along the way. :
After years of surfing so many sites on the net that present porn and direct you to a site to join. I decided that I could do that too. I pulled out an old wysiwyg html program I had and put together a site with all the adult sex gifs I had saved over the years and dropped it into a domain http://wyldsexgifs.com and put it on the air with shared hosting where it is still at. It has been running a year now and averages about 300 unq a day with no advertising just letting goog do its thing.

After A year I have a better handle on designing sites and picking domain names that are not way out in left field lol. I know more than I did when I started but I am still as a new babe in the wilderness as far as experience goes.

I agree with what halfpint says about starting with nothing and working your way through the trials and errors and learning this business from the ground up. Sure you can buy your way in but you cannot buy the experience you need to adjust and tune things when all is not going well.

And the one thing you cannot buy is time. And I have taught myself early on that while I am stumbling around and learning and changing this site to that or that site to this. and more SEO. and on and on. That the time I spend learning is also time running developing a history for each of my sites. And as I change each one with a new piece of knowledge I have learned. if my traffic shows improvement with the changes that also means my past visitors are still coming and probably sharing my site with a friend. So in this business time can be your friend.

My own personal measure of success in this business will be when I look in a couple of years and I have sites that are at the top of goog in a popular search term. with steady good numbers of traffic. I may have it wrong but as I see it my job is to develop a spot or spots on the net that many people keep stopping by. Once I do that ,I will drop a mail to the ones I have already been listening to that will gladly turn that traffic into shared gold.

Back on topic I see shared hosting as ideal during the building process. I see switching to dedicated and beyond when there is something worth switching...
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I can say this now because it was over 10 years ago, but back then none of the programs (at least from what I saw) said you have to be over 18 to promote them.

So I signed up as a 16 year old... put together galleries from free content I got from other webmasters (via simple email/bbs deals to promote their programs)... and I put SexTracker's counter on all of my galleries and remember cracking the top 10 pages "Universe" with well over 1,000,000 visitors a day across my galleries! I wonder how much money I made Mayor...

Good times! I got some nice stuff off ARS rewards back then too. But I played a very careful dangerous game showing off porn checks to high school buddies! lol. Those were the days. I had a PO Box that everything went to that a 18 year old friend set up. I've come a long way in 10 years wow!
LOL I signed up with porncity when I forst started but never used the account. Are they still around ? cause I cant get the site or thier BB to load
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Same here.

Keep in mind this was 1997, and I was just starting in the internet game and tinkering with shit. I never went to school for what I do now, simply learned it along the way. Including html, among other things. The web was the wild west back then, it was the 1.0 of the "nobody is going to pay for (fill in the blank)".

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still a wild west if You're a skilled computermania and i wish it stays like that for ever ;)
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Old 01-18-2010, 01:40 PM   #42
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Started with a $6 hosting at godaddy. Moved to dedicated only after 2 months. Still have that dedicated along with 3 others.
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Old 01-18-2010, 02:10 PM   #43
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Old 01-18-2010, 02:16 PM   #44
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Nah but started on a shared host.
I think most probably started with shared hosting.
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Old 01-18-2010, 02:30 PM   #45
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I had loads of free sites on fsn.net and web1000.com - 25Mb of space I think
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Old 01-18-2010, 02:31 PM   #46
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Tried ARS free hosting for a little while many years ago. Dedicated became a requirement for many TGP's and forced me into it.
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I really like revsharehosting.com

It's host that takes % of the profit.

It's not free and it's not paid - it's somewhere in between.

This is a very good host for new people to start up sites with no cost unless you make profit.
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Revsharehosting has been gone for like a year now......
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