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tehHinjew · 01-18-2010, 07:04 PM

you guys are way to harsh

xxweekxx · 01-18-2010, 07:06 PM

haha.lol this pic will haunt sleazy for a while

baddog · 01-18-2010, 07:07 PM

Fucking loser. Sleazy has done a lot more than you ever will in this biz.

Helix · 01-18-2010, 07:11 PM

idiot...

fmltube · 01-18-2010, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Fucking loser. Sleazy has done a lot more than you ever will in this biz.

He's definitely eaten a lot more, that much I can see. But just as he may have done more in porn, he has also lost more in porn. Now if you want to compare mainstream careers, I definitely have you and him both beat so fuck off kindly dear biker dude.

weekly · 01-18-2010, 07:19 PM

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Fucking loser. Sleazy has done a lot more than you ever will in this biz.

What I want to know....and its an old board tradition...is how the hell everyone seems to know how much everyone else has done. They say it with such great authority. Its kinda funny really. I have been told my business was small and would never survive. I have done pretty well since 1998. Rumours of my demise have always been greatly exaggerated. Many of the morons who knew everybody and everything like say.... Jeff Miller...JMM and a bunch of others to numerous to name are either busted broke, on the lamb, or are behind bars. Others have left the business....failed...and are trying to relive the glory days of money waterfalls. But from my point of view, they told me many times, with great authority that I was...working out of my basement for peanuts...lived with my mum and dad....actually worked a full time job at Photomat or the perennial favorite...MickeyDees.
However,I seem to be still here, making a good living doing nothing but adult websites with my poor traffic skills, low Alexa numbers, but a not so low bank account. Go figure.
BTW, Baddog, this wasn't directed personally at you, it just flipped a switch and got me thinking.

baddog · 01-18-2010, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by fmltube

He's definitely eaten a lot more, that much I can see. But just as he may have done more in porn, he has also lost more in porn. Now if you want to compare mainstream careers, I definitely have you and him both beat so fuck off kindly dear biker dude.

As Sleazy would say, "idiot."

If you had either of us beat in mainstream you would not be here begging for a fucking camera so you could get your start here.

baddog · 01-18-2010, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by weekly

What I want to know....and its an old board tradition...is how the hell everyone seems to know how much everyone else has done.

Because I was here the night she came here, thinking that she was going to exploit the FML [and tube] craze that was going on that week.

fmltube · 01-18-2010, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

As Sleazy would say, "idiot."

If you had either of us beat in mainstream you would not be here begging for a fucking camera so you could get your start here.

If you knew anything about business, you would know that you never use your own capital when there are other alternatives. Why sink my own cash into a new area that I did not have the experience (adult)? I was in between jobs and it was something I considered up until I had a couple decent editing gigs come my way and then ultimately this gig here in Amsterdam.

I have posted my mainstream work here in the past, where's yours? Do they even give awards for webhosts?

Fat Panda · 01-18-2010, 07:48 PM

this shit is too funny

fmltube · 01-18-2010, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Because I was here the night she came here, thinking that she was going to exploit the FML [and tube] craze that was going on that week.

Think what you want buddy.

CamTraffic · 01-18-2010, 07:57 PM

stop hating, you are nobody

fmltube · 01-18-2010, 08:00 PM

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stop hating, you are nobody

Oh yeah, Im hating alright. I hating on a guy who chose to screw others out of their money by declaring "bankrupsy" and then brags on here that he traded a pack of BLUs for a $10K/night suite. Fuck, he should have traded the BLUs for some fucking SlimFast.

tony286 · 01-18-2010, 08:08 PM

Sleazy has always been a gentleman and always very helpful to my wife. When it doesnt benefit him in anyway. He has my respect and to have to balls to lays one life out in front of some the cruelest people on the planet. Kudos to you Scott.

BV · 01-18-2010, 09:34 PM

Sleazy has spent more money on throwing industry parties than this fmltube jerkoff has earned his whole life. (or her life) as he would like us to believe.

Go fuck yourself dude.

You are a nobody and never was a somebody. Get a life.

BillyHoe · 01-18-2010, 09:44 PM

Dude grow up. You're pathetic. Sleazy may be an asshole but no one deserves the low class shit you're pulling.

mikesinner · 01-18-2010, 10:08 PM

the dude on the left looks really familiar to me. Is his name Jim?

Chosen · 01-18-2010, 10:34 PM

Nice

digitaldivas · 01-18-2010, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Fucking loser. Sleazy has done a lot more than you ever will in this biz.

JamesK · 01-18-2010, 10:55 PM

You're not even in this business. Get the fuck outta here.

SleazyDream · 01-18-2010, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by fmltube

He's definitely eaten a lot more, that much I can see. But just as he may have done more in porn, he has also lost more in porn. Now if you want to compare mainstream careers, I definitely have you and him both beat so fuck off kindly dear biker dude.

my porn business didn't fail... it' still makes money... my mainstream businesses failed mostly due to theft and financing....

SleazyDream · 01-18-2010, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by fmltube

Oh yeah, Im hating alright. I hating on a guy who chose to screw others out of their money by declaring "bankrupsy" and then brags on here that he traded a pack of BLUs for a $10K/night suite. Fuck, he should have traded the BLUs for some fucking SlimFast.

i'm making amends with everyone in my bankruptcy....

01-19-2010, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by fmltube

That is just plain rude.

What the hell do you look like since you want to judge people on their looks?

quiet · 01-19-2010, 12:07 AM

seriously why do people reply to this fml dude? he's a weak troll, not even entertaining. boring and bitter.

baddog · 01-19-2010, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by fmltube

Oh yeah, Im hating alright. I hating on a guy who chose to screw others out of their money by declaring "bankrupsy" and then brags on here that he traded a pack of BLUs for a $10K/night suite. Fuck, he should have traded the BLUs for some fucking SlimFast.

It is hard to believe, but you actually come across dumber with each successive post.

weekly · 01-19-2010, 02:43 AM

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Sleazy has spent more money on throwing industry parties

OK, i have no dog in this hunt....BUT...dude...Sleazy is bankrupt. Do you not think that this big man on campus shit that obviously impressed you, might be part of that sad state? Let me put it this way, would you invest money in someone who has no idea how to deal with it? If you do, then I have a bridge in Winnipeg or Gimli, or Bumfuck Manitoba that you may be interested in.
Making money is easy, keeping it takes talent.

SleazyDream · 01-19-2010, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by weekly

OK, i have no dog in this hunt....BUT...dude...Sleazy is bankrupt. Do you not think that this big man on campus shit that obviously impressed you, might be part of that sad state? Let me put it this way, would you invest money in someone who has no idea how to deal with it? If you do, then I have a bridge in Winnipeg or Gimli, or Bumfuck Manitoba that you may be interested in.
Making money is easy, keeping it takes talent.

idiot

weekly · 01-19-2010, 03:12 AM

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idiot

UH huh...why then, exactly, did you post a smiley of your worldly wealth?

Les Grossman · 01-19-2010, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by weekly

OK, i have no dog in this hunt....BUT...dude...Sleazy is bankrupt. Do you not think that this big man on campus shit that obviously impressed you, might be part of that sad state? Let me put it this way, would you invest money in someone who has no idea how to deal with it? If you do, then I have a bridge in Winnipeg or Gimli, or Bumfuck Manitoba that you may be interested in.
Making money is easy, keeping it takes talent.

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idiot

This is why you're bankrupt. What weekly said is right. Anyone can make money, it takes skills and know how to keep it. For this you call him an idiot.

Enjoy all the rest of your failures. So long as you keep your current mindset, you are doomed to live one after the other. The only reason you did well in adult was timing.

01-19-2010, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by fmltube

If you knew anything about business, you would know that you never use your own capital when there are other alternatives. Why sink my own cash into a new area that I did not have the experience (adult)? I was in between jobs and it was something I considered up until I had a couple decent editing gigs come my way and then ultimately this gig here in Amsterdam.

I have posted my mainstream work here in the past, where's yours? Do they even give awards for webhosts?

hmmm
Far from singling you out, but if i really believed in something then i'd use my own capital.
There are programs in the UK like "Dragons den" where people who have lots of capital go on and are too afraid to use their own money only to get turned away from them they basically say: why is it ok to gamble and potentially lose someone elses money than your own?

fmltube · 01-19-2010, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Altwebdesign

hmmm
Far from singling you out, but if i really believed in something then i'd use my own capital.
There are programs in the UK like "Dragons den" where people who have lots of capital go on and are too afraid to use their own money only to get turned away from them they basically say: why is it ok to gamble and potentially lose someone elses money than your own?

Its basic business. You never use your own capital unless you absolutely have to. Why spend my own cash on an adult venture when I do not have the same experience in adult that I do in mainstream production?

The truth is and always has been, most of the assholes on here aren't successful in anything, be it adult, mainstream, or life in general. Those that had success in adult in the early 2000s when it took a few pics and vidz on a shitty designed web page ade a ton of cash. Yet these same fuckheads went out and blew the whole lot on cars, houses, jewelry, parties, drugs, etc.... Look back at some of the old threads and you'll see why half of these fuckers are broke because some of the stupid shit they have wasted their cash on.

Furthermore, you have the same dumb asses that refuse to accept that I am an educated female that does not have to cower down nor lay on my back for all of these so-called "playas" so I must be a guy pretending to be a girl. As I have said elsewhere, the men in this industry, whether it be behind the camera, in front of the camera, producing, marketing, or the average Joe slinging porn online all seem to look at females as replaceable objects while forgetting without women, there would be no adult industry. So when a woman who comes along that has an education and success in businesses (mainstream) where the most of them have never accomplished anything and if it weren't for adult, many of them would simply become a product of the welfare system, they feel threatened and go out of their way to discredit at every turn. Because there is no way a woman could ever be successful at something they could not.

Since my time here at GFY, I have done well in both mainstream and adult. The tube site was just a simple test. It got me in the door to see how things worked. Then I did the best thing I could, I started something else without putting it out here for the average asshole to shit on, criticize, and downplay because I am female. Since the summer, I have made $36k in adult. Not a large amount but I am willing to bet it is far more than most of the keyboard warriors earned for the entire year. This is in addition to my mainstream gigs and then this new gig in Amsterdam.

So while so many focus on me being a "nobody", I say big fucking deal. If you got into this industry because you wanted to be "cool" or "liked by all" then its your mistake. If you got into this industry for any other reason than to make money you're a complete idiot. And if you dismiss a name on web forum and run with your assumption that they have never accomplished anything, you're an even bigger idiot because you do not know what others have done.

But I suppose if threads like declaring "bankrupsy" and "my mom died" or the countless other drama queens post is being a somebody, then thank God I am a nobody. If you think posting on a web forum with a bunch of morons supporting you makes you a better person, then more power to you.

01-19-2010, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by fmltube

Its basic business. You never use your own capital unless you absolutely have to. Why spend my own cash on an adult venture when I do not have the same experience in adult that I do in mainstream production?

The truth is and always has been, most of the assholes on here aren't successful in anything, be it adult, mainstream, or life in general. Those that had success in adult in the early 2000s when it took a few pics and vidz on a shitty designed web page ade a ton of cash. Yet these same fuckheads went out and blew the whole lot on cars, houses, jewelry, parties, drugs, etc.... Look back at some of the old threads and you'll see why half of these fuckers are broke because some of the stupid shit they have wasted their cash on.

Furthermore, you have the same dumb asses that refuse to accept that I am an educated female that does not have to cower down nor lay on my back for all of these so-called "playas" so I must be a guy pretending to be a girl. As I have said elsewhere, the men in this industry, whether it be behind the camera, in front of the camera, producing, marketing, or the average Joe slinging porn online all seem to look at females as replaceable objects while forgetting without women, there would be no adult industry. So when a woman who comes along that has an education and success in businesses (mainstream) where the most of them have never accomplished anything and if it weren't for adult, many of them would simply become a product of the welfare system, they feel threatened and go out of their way to discredit at every turn. Because there is no way a woman could ever be successful at something they could not.

Since my time here at GFY, I have done well in both mainstream and adult. The tube site was just a simple test. It got me in the door to see how things worked. Then I did the best thing I could, I started something else without putting it out here for the average asshole to shit on, criticize, and downplay because I am female. Since the summer, I have made $36k in adult. Not a large amount but I am willing to bet it is far more than most of the keyboard warriors earned for the entire year. This is in addition to my mainstream gigs and then this new gig in Amsterdam.

So while so many focus on me being a "nobody", I say big fucking deal. If you got into this industry because you wanted to be "cool" or "liked by all" then its your mistake. If you got into this industry for any other reason than to make money you're a complete idiot. And if you dismiss a name on web forum and run with your assumption that they have never accomplished anything, you're an even bigger idiot because you do not know what others have done.

But I suppose if threads like declaring "bankrupsy" and "my mom died" or the countless other drama queens post is being a somebody, then thank God I am a nobody. If you think posting on a web forum with a bunch of morons supporting you makes you a better person, then more power to you.

I understand but i also dont see why its ok to gamble with someone elses cash instead of your own, dealing with banks and 3rd partys and potentially loseing there money can get far far worse than loseing your own money

andrej_NDC · 01-19-2010, 10:37 AM

You are so pathetic...if you really achieved something in mainstream, you wouldn't need to brag about it in every thread on GFY.

Barefootsies · 01-19-2010, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by weekly

Making money is easy, keeping it takes talent.

Iron Fist · 01-19-2010, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by tony404

He has my respect and to have to balls to lays one life out in front of some the cruelest people on the planet. Kudos to you Scott.

See that's what I don't understand... why bother posting all this BS at all? Compared to his avatar pic, he has gained a hell of a lot of weight... that's obvious, but then why post threads about getting diabetes, etc etc. I wouldn't even bother defending someone who clearly wants to stand in the line of fire.

All told, this is entertaining. Flame on..

fmltube · 01-19-2010, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Altwebdesign

I understand but i also dont see why its ok to gamble with someone elses cash instead of your own, dealing with banks and 3rd partys and potentially loseing there money can get far far worse than loseing your own money

Investors take risks every day in business. It's part of the business cycle. It's all irrelevant now.

fmltube · 01-19-2010, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by tony404

Sleazy has always been a gentleman and always very helpful to my wife. When it doesnt benefit him in anyway. He has my respect and to have to balls to lays one life out in front of some the cruelest people on the planet. Kudos to you Scott.

Here's your first mistake. You never mix your personal life and tribulations in with your business, EVER!!!! Scott chose to lay his life out there and when you do that, you take a chance of getting criticism. Don't like it, don't share it. Do you see Trump posting about his life every time he files "bankrupsy" and then turn around to celebrate and champion such mediocrity every chance?

If you ever expose your weakness in any business, best expect there will be someone to pick at the exposed flesh and decaying bones. "Putting your life out there" is nothing more than a shitty attempt to garner sympathy and pity with hope that someone will throw you a bone to help you rise up out of the ashes of the shit you burnt down.

If Scott is truly talented, he could recover without constantly referring to his bankruptcy. So big fucking deal, shit went bad and he lost his ass. It happens. But to put shit out there expecting everyone to embrace him with all warm fuzzies is fucking Cuckoo.

Maybe, just maybe all these remarks about his weight will actually inspire him to take better care of himself and lose some fucking weight before it kills him. People never embrace change until they are forced to. The potential loss of life should be enough inspiration for him to do the right things and if that is not enough, then all those who take shots at the roaming earthquake known as Sleazy may be enough to push his ass over the edge, for the better or the worse. Ultimately it is Scott's choice and his choice alone.

baddog · 01-19-2010, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by fmltube

Since my time here at GFY, I have done well in both mainstream and adult.

All 5 months? Fucking twit.

fmltube · 01-19-2010, 11:24 AM

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All 5 months? Fucking twit.

Time is time which is something a certain someone you know closely doesn't have anymore. So shut yo trap Fonzie.

Nicky · 01-19-2010, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by fmltube

Time is time which is something a certain someone you know closely doesn't have anymore. So shut yo trap Fonzie.

BillyHoe · 01-19-2010, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

It is hard to believe, but you actually come across dumber with each successive post.

dead on

baddog · 01-19-2010, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by fmltube

Time is time which is something a certain someone you know closely doesn't have anymore. So shut yo trap Fonzie.

Like I said above, each time you post you come across as a bigger idiot. After 5 months in the industry you consider yourself a success.

I predict you don't make it to the end of 2010.

fmltube · 01-19-2010, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Like I said above, each time you post you come across as a bigger idiot. After 5 months in the industry you consider yourself a success.

I predict you don't make it to the end of 2010.

Hey fucking moron, at no point did I claim to be a success in adult. I made $36k in 5 months. Is that successful? Nope but it is way better than many here are doing. My success comes from Mainstream and always will. If adult was a full time gig for me, possibly I would not make it to the end of 2010. But lucky for me I have real skills that can be applied at nearly any mainstream entertainment job. Like I said Fonzie, shut yo trap.

fmltube · 01-19-2010, 11:44 AM

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dead on

Oh wow, "BRO" club out in full force or are you just trying to get a hook up with Kathleen? I hear she provides some drop dead rates these days.

fmltube · 01-19-2010, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

All 5 months? Fucking twit.

Furthermore, why the fuck do you think I care if you think I am a success in what I do or not. Its not like anyone has ever been successful without the blessing of the all knowing Lloyd Brown now have they? Thanks Lloyd for setting me on the straight and narrow.

dyna mo · 01-19-2010, 11:52 AM

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But lucky for me I have real skills that can be applied at nearly any mainstream entertainment job.

is this an example of your awesome mainstream entertainment industry skillZ?

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xxweekxx · 01-19-2010, 11:57 AM

honestly sleazy gotta expect this. dont know why everyone is shocked.. you shit on everyone then you expect them not to shit on you,

but on a serious note, if you were my real life good friend, and you are fat as fuck like you are, and doctor tells you that u have diabetes, i wont sit here and say aww sorry, nope, ill tell you listen bro lose some fucking weight and stop being such a fat piece of shit.. thats what real friends should tell you... they should tell you that your diabetes is YOUR_FAULT and therefore you should fix it.. telling a fat fucker sorry doesnt fix anything, you need a dose of reality amigo

dyna mo · 01-19-2010, 12:00 PM

fyi, the cause(s) of diabetes are not known. especially at the individual level.

BillyHoe · 01-19-2010, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by fmltube

Oh wow, "BRO" club out in full force or are you just trying to get a hook up with Kathleen? I hear she provides some drop dead rates these days.

lol considering I don't know him I'd hardly say BRO club. But when someone says something that makes sense I'll absolutely back it up. Just like when you say something stupid I'll absolutely slam you for it.
If you think for one minute ANYONE here believes you're a success in anything other then being an idiot, then you're sadly mistaken.
You claim you made 36k in 5 months prove it.
You claim to be a success in mainstream prove it.

All you do is talk shit and like many other industry Vets on this board I love fresh meat, so I'll gladly expose you for a jackass whenever I can.

01-18-2010, 06:59 PM	#1
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