i say HTML Video will take over Flash Video the same way Flash did Windows Media... - GoFuckYourself.com

HELMY · 02-24-2010, 09:08 AM

Agree or disagree?

BestXXXPorn · 02-24-2010, 09:13 AM

Well, Flash and Windows Media have nothing to do with each other and html5 doesn't have nearly the functionality that Flash does...

That being said I think Flash will continue to be snubbed by the market (read apple and even MS)... they're getting zero mobile support and catching a lot of flak for not having an open format.

So html5, highly unlikely.... maybe html6 or html7 :P

candyflip · 02-24-2010, 09:27 AM

Probably, but not for a few years.

HTML5 can't handle DRM or Advertising, so don't expect the big guys to dump Flash video just yet.

TheDoc · 02-24-2010, 09:32 AM

Flash is pretty bad ass when done right, the players, the speed, ads are easy, clickable, track data, all types of stuff.

HTML5 so far, sucks ass and makes videos stop playing smoothly. For me at least.

Bossman · 02-24-2010, 09:35 AM

Agreed

czarina · 02-24-2010, 09:41 AM

Flash is here to stay, mostly now that Adobe owns it

VGeorgie · 02-24-2010, 09:46 AM

Flash used for delivering video is only a subset. A far wider use of the platform is RIA, which to duplicate in HTML would require some fancy JavaScript. We all know how fun it is to code JavaScript to ensure it works the same on all browsers.

As a video platform, Silverlight actually beats out Flash (Netflix and some other VOD players use it) yet Microsoft continues to have trouble getting people to adopt it. The "better app" isn't always quickly adopted. Sometimes it's never adopted.

seeric · 02-24-2010, 09:47 AM

i don't think that will happen.

HELMY · 02-24-2010, 10:20 AM

Try HTML video:

1. Download the latest version of Google Chrome:
http://www.google.com/chrome/index.h...&utm_medium=ha

2. Once installed, open Chrome and point it to:
https://youtube.com/html5

3. Click the "Join the HTML5 Beta" link.

4. Then check out this random video using Chrome (click the 720p for maximum resolution):
https://youtube.com/watch?v=qQrF0...ure=popt00us0d

Now imagine all major browsers supporting HTML 5 video (only a matter of time).

mpahlca · 02-24-2010, 10:30 AM

what does html5 video tag support have to do with flash? flash is streaming html5 isnt yet unless you encode your mp4 correctly, beyond that i would just do all video now in mp4 with proper coding for streaming and not do .flv at all.

Allison · 02-24-2010, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HELMY

Try HTML video:

1. Download the latest version of Google Chrome:
http://www.google.com/chrome/index.h...&utm_medium=ha

2. Once installed, open Chrome and point it to:
https://youtube.com/html5

3. Click the "Join the HTML5 Beta" link.

4. Then check out this random video using Chrome (click the 720p for maximum resolution):
https://youtube.com/watch?v=qQrF0...ure=popt00us0d

Now imagine all major browsers supporting HTML 5 video (only a matter of time).

I agree...but probably still a few years away.

react · 02-24-2010, 10:37 AM

Not until Firefox supports H.264 it won't.

TheDoc · 02-24-2010, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HELMY

Now imagine all major browsers supporting HTML 5 video (only a matter of time).

The video didn't work for me... they're always waiting/buffering, it never plays.

2MuchMark · 02-24-2010, 10:41 AM

HTML5 Video technology is interesting for sure but it's not 'prime time' level yet.

For the moment the biggest adopter is Youtube on an experimental basis. We would be wise to keep our eyes on Youtube to see what they can do with it.

The whole HTML5 Video is in flux, so it needs to stabilize as a technology, and then get more entrenched. One of the current advantages of the Flash video is that it allows for more controls over who gets to see it (authentication, DRM, publishing point control, etc.)

Besides all that, we plan to keep on paying attention.

bDok · 02-24-2010, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpahlca

what does html5 video tag support have to do with flash? flash is streaming html5 isnt yet unless you encode your mp4 correctly, beyond that i would just do all video now in mp4 with proper coding for streaming and not do .flv at all.

truth. Exactly just do mp4 and you are set either way.

OY · 02-24-2010, 10:45 AM

I think the quality is a way away yet. Flash was "poor" in the beginning too, as was WMV I expect it to get better and give Flash a good run for their money.

Time will tell.

seeandsee · 02-24-2010, 10:49 AM

flash will stay for many yrs to come

Relentless · 02-24-2010, 01:49 PM

Google using HTML5 to get around Apple's refusal to add Google Voice to the iPhone platform may have a major impact on the usage of HTML5 overall ... especially if Apple keeps trying to police content as tightly as they have been. However, the thing I've been hearing a lot about lately is Adobe Flex... if Flex does well, Flash isn't going away any time soon either.

Deej · 02-24-2010, 01:53 PM

If at all, not for awhile

NaughtyRob · 02-24-2010, 04:19 PM

It will be a while but yes.

baddog · 02-24-2010, 04:21 PM

Would never download chrome just so I can use html5 . . . doubt many others would either.

baddog · 02-24-2010, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deej

If at all, not for awhile

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