Ever thought how will the 2001 -10 remembered ? (in music)

[CarlosTheGaucho]

I don't know

example:

the 90's

- grunge (although I hate that word) movement
- trip hop (coming out of Bristol)
- brit pop (Pulp, Oasis, Pulp, Mansun etc.)
- Nu Metal (Limp Bizkit, Korn and others)
- Nu now I don't know how that was callled but it meant guys like Crag David or Artful Dodger etc. - it was intersting
- old school rap (talking in nowadays slang)
- old dogs recording
- some more

the 2001 - 2010

- junk pop
- junk rock
- old dogs recordings

I don't know, correct me, just curious

For me in 2001 - 2010 - modern pop bullshit combining pseudp rap and pseudo singing and pseudo songwriting

Some artists even in this shitty environment made their mark, name their names

Feel free to add more, looking forward !

[La_Sexorcist]

Crap, emo, nu-metal

[closer]

dunno how you should call it but it was def the decade of electronic voice transformation

[CarlosTheGaucho]

I don't know, popular music couldn't be dwelled out in 40 years I guess..

Say 80's which were by many regarded as the worst decade so far:

- new wave rock
- new romance synth bands
- trash metal
- hair metal
- synth pop music
- lots of punk rock
- heavy metal (following the 90's)
- start of the old school rap
- synth soul and r n b
- old dogs releasing albums and touring

Still a lots of variety to chose from even if you weren't happy with the synth sounds..

[kane]

While it goes back a littler further than the 90's I think this picture really sums up the changes in music. The picture is titled, "The downfall of modern society."

[SpongeBub]

For me, it will be remembered as the time in which rap and hip hop took over popular music entirely . Has there ever been a worse form of "music" in history? I only hope I live long enough to see the day when people look back at that stuff and go "wtf were we thinking?". How can that noise be popular when people like Todd Rundgren, Chick Corea, Stanley Clarke, David Sancious and Steve Howe are alive and making real music?

[mmcfadden]

music influence repeats itself every 20 years so this decade should be better with 90's and some 70's influence

[Riffhard]

There was some fantastic garage rock from the likes of the Raconteurs, the Hives, The White Stripes, the Black Keys, B.R.M.C, The Eagles of Death Metal, Louis XIV, Wolfmother...

And Some great Classic Hard Rock from the Likes of Silvertide, Stonerider, The Answer, Airbourne, etc...

[fatfoo]

The decade affects how people behave? Is that even possible?

That's not possible.

I'd say it's more about what the person sees around him/herself that affects the person the most. Not really the decade they are living in.

I'm just saying that someone that doesn't listen to music at all would not be affected by it.

But, I mean the decade it just a measure of time. I mean someone could still be living as an uncivilized caveman right now on earth somewhere, despite the technological and educational improvements.

[CarlosTheGaucho]

Ok so what I can think of so far:

2001 - 2010:

- emo rock for disfunctional kids
- bubble gum pop for kids
- weird r'n'b with fake singing
- indie rock (bands that usually suck so they are labeled and marketed as "indie")

Not much variety really, unless you are an audio masochist.

The other thing is that all this crap is directed towards kids and teenagers and say maybe people in their early 20's.

I can't imagine anyone sensible playing most of that, when they start to get a little bit serious about anything.

The corps have to be fucking themselves a big time, because there's a big hole in what's been offered, gotta be lots of hungry musicians around, that just won't ever accept being turned into a part of that bubble gum crap mix, and lots of listeners hungry to hear them.

Also the structure, how music is presented has changed. There are no radio or video DJ's anymore to present their picks, you get served all that crap cocktail over and over, since it's the corp that ordered it.

Also I guess 90's were the last decade when the sex drugs and rock'n'roll legacy lived.

Shit today is just boring,

no revolt

no madness

nothing to be scared of unless you're scared of boring things

Like you watch Kanye on the stage singing fake stuff - that won't change your life much I guess.

I dreamed about playing in a band, driving a 68' Mustang Fastback, being wild, getting laid a lot, watching the Hollywood sunset and be cool as Slash.

Actually played in a band for a bit, survived lots of party rampage, got a chance to enjoy a little bit of sex here and then, driving an older car I love, had a chance to watch the sun rise in Vegas, NYC, Florida, although the only Hollywood I visited so far was Hollywood FL, never realized I even more or less satisfied my teenage kicks till now, not too bad.

You see Kanye on stage and what dreams that triggers - maybe buying a new tight Armani pants that show package and buying a 40 sq feet sunglasses that will make you look cool - not a whole lot of rampage.

[Farang]

Originally Posted by kane

[CarlosTheGaucho]

Originally Posted by kane

While it goes back a littler further than the 90's I think this picture really sums up the changes in music. The picture is titled, "The downfall of modern society."

[Barefootsies]

[CarlosTheGaucho]

Originally Posted by closer

dunno how you should call it but it was def the decade of electronic voice transformation

That's correct - putting it one step further - you don't need to sing, you just need to use the right tube

[Manowar]

it will be remembered as

ga ga oh la la roma roma roma ga ga oh la la

[The Porn Nerd]

Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho

I don't know

example:

the 90's

- grunge (although I hate that word) movement
- trip hop (coming out of Bristol)
- brit pop (Pulp, Oasis, Pulp, Mansun etc.)
- Nu Metal (Limp Bizkit, Korn and others)
- Nu now I don't know how that was callled but it meant guys like Crag David or Artful Dodger etc. - it was intersting
- old school rap (talking in nowadays slang)
- old dogs recording
- some more

the 2001 - 2010

- junk pop
- junk rock
- old dogs recordings

I don't know, correct me, just curious

For me in 2001 - 2010 - modern pop bullshit combining pseudp rap and pseudo singing and pseudo songwriting

Some artists even in this shitty environment made their mark, name their names

Feel free to add more, looking forward !

Music is dead. Move on. Very, very sad. But true. Listen to the old stuff, from whatever era you like, because nowadays Clancy Can't Even Sing.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by Manowar

it will be remembered as

ga ga oh la la roma roma roma ga ga oh la la

[John-ACWM]

Hannah Montana is to blame

[The Porn Nerd]

GEEK ALERT:How 'bout the Era Of The 'Hot' CD?

Almost every goddamned fucking motherfucking CD/download since 2001 or so has been recorded 'hot' - or at the high end/over-the-red-line-of-the-spectrum. Meaning, everything is LOUD and IN YOUR FACE. It's a loudness race and it's a disgrace, as Bob Dylan said in '04.

Clicks, clipping, pops, tinniness, no seperation of highs and lows, or of instruments (so you can't tell if that's a sax or a guitar blaring through the speakers).

Basically, a loud wall of noise.

No wonder people are going back to LPs.

NOTE: The recent Beatles Re-Masters are loud but just under the red-line (12 dbs or lower). So they kind of 'split the differance'. So, an exception, as always, for the Beatles.

[CarlosTheGaucho]

Originally Posted by SpongeBub

For me, it will be remembered as the time in which rap and hip hop took over popular music entirely . Has there ever been a worse form of "music" in history? I only hope I live long enough to see the day when people look back at that stuff and go "wtf were we thinking?". How can that noise be popular when people like Todd Rundgren, Chick Corea, Stanley Clarke, David Sancious and Steve Howe are alive and making real music?

Well it's true, although rap hip hop is a legitimate genre.

Like if you go to track the roots and old school stuff they definitely have something to say.

On the other hand there's probably no other genre that would get crippled so much.

If you compare Public Enemy, Gang Starr, A tribe called quest or De La Soul to the shit that's now been served as "hip hop" or "rap" in the media it's like comparing a Da Vinci painting to a shit blasted on the wall.

Good call on Stanley Clarke, Chick Corea or David Sanborn, reminds me I haven't tapped into the jazz and fusion for a bit if I don't count listening to WBGO time from time.

Maybe it's gonna be more people who will consider going down that route, since the rock n roll is fucked and jazz n fusion successfully lives under the radar for a bit already, while the last time, when these things got a moderate cross over pop success was probably in the 70's with Mahavishnu Orchestra, Miles going crazy, Weather report and the whole fusion movement.

[ilnjscb]

In this decade, and idiot can "sing" and no matter what kind of nightmare they'd be live, autotune makes them sound like a robot version of themselves that can sing. Manufactured talent now is ascendant and the studios control them completely.

Couples having a romantic date now listen to rap. Couples make love with rap playing. People now think rap is music.

Country, though it sells well, is totally dead, with singers from New Jersey copying garth brooks badly, saying the same old tired shit. None of them have ever milked a cow.

American recorded music has an endgame feel. Probably india, russia, or china will be the next place.

[Quagmire]

Originally Posted by ilnjscb

In this decade, and idiot can "sing" and no matter what kind of nightmare they'd be live, autotune makes them sound like a robot version of themselves that can sing. Manufactured talent now is ascendant and the studios control them completely.

Couples having a romantic date now listen to rap. Couples make love with rap playing. People now think rap is music.

Country, though it sells well, is totally dead, with singers from New Jersey copying garth brooks badly, saying the same old tired shit. None of them have ever milked a cow.

American recorded music has an endgame feel. Probably india, russia, or china will be the next place.

Pretty much covers it. The 'musicians' are no longer artists, they are entertainers. You don't have to be able to play instruments and sing to entertain, you need to be able to draw a crowd.

[CarlosTheGaucho]

So is this the decade of (c)rap ?



Let's try to put it down once again - how will the history books remember 2001 - 2010:

- phony rappers (mainly a disgrace to rap music)

- electronic pseudo R & B with artificial voices (like Kanye)

- electro dance pop with artificial voices (like GaGa)

- bubble gum pop for kids (like those pedo Hansens or how they're called, it's always been around)

- indie rock (mainly crap with guys looking better than playing)

- emo crap (what are some actual emo bands? is this those Tokio hotel or something?)

- nu metal (is it still going strong?)

- couple cross over rock / pop personalities (like Pink for example, she ain't bad)

- some heavy / trash metal acts that don't get much recognition (there are some new bands, lots of bands from Scandinavia etc. they have following although not much mainstream airing I guess)

- old dogs recording

What am I missing?

[rhizome]

Wow you guys are a bunch of curmudgeons.

Maybe if you'd stop listening to crap you'd stop complaining about crap. Just like any other decade there was some really great music buried in a mountain of shit.

I think the decade will most be remembered for 3 things

1) the exhaustion of all the post- genres, post-rock, post-hardcore, post-metal, etc.
2) a full exploration of Eno's ambience heritage, best exemplified in the records put out by Type
3) the fusion/blurring of experimental pop and modern classical music

[J. Falcon]

It won't even be worth remembering.