state tax question.. avoiding it - GoFuckYourself.com

xxweekxx · 03-04-2010, 05:19 AM

lets say you want to avoid state income taxes in for example cali, and you are a renter in your state, cant you just open a mailbox in say Florida, get some mail there, then go there, get a license, register your car, then go back to california and drive with FL plates..

How can cali prove you are a resident, especially since you have out of state tags/license/ and you work online..

Barefootsies · 03-04-2010, 05:28 AM

My guess is the rules of "residency" vary by state.

I know for insurance and license purposes, you typically are supposed to reside in whatever state you claim residency for a minimum of six months annually. But that's not to say every state uses that same measuring stick.

I would say you have to talk to a lawyer, and CPA, to be sure what is and is not required.

xxweekxx · 03-04-2010, 05:37 AM

yeah but if you are renting, how can they tell you were in Cali? you could easily say u spent 11months of that year in florida...

They cant prove if/if not you spent 6months in cali..

DWB · 03-04-2010, 06:01 AM

FYI... California is one of the most aggressive states who will HOUND your ass over state tax. They can be ruthless.

xxweekxx · 03-04-2010, 06:02 AM

i figured, but my question is if i dont have a license for the state, nor a car in the state (Easy to do both), and im just renting a place from someone, then how can they come for me for state tax?

Domain Broker · 03-04-2010, 06:06 AM

Just the pay your fucking taxes and be done with it.

xxweekxx · 03-04-2010, 06:10 AM

cali tax is like 10%, throw in another 10% self employment, then another 20%+ for fed, and throw in my costs being very low with high revenue, and you can see how i want to legally minimize my tax

theking · 03-04-2010, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by xxweekxx

cali tax is like 10%, throw in another 10% self employment, then another 20%+ for fed, and throw in my costs being very low with high revenue, and you can see how i want to legally minimize my tax

What you are proposing is not legal.

xxweekxx · 03-04-2010, 06:17 AM

oh.. well currently i have a florida address/info, so you are saying if you go and visit and stay with your mom in new york for a year, then you gotta pay state income taxes to new york for that year? assuming you are originally from FL

CPimp · 03-04-2010, 08:21 AM

I have an idea:

Bend over, drop your tighty whities, spread them ass cheeks and let the state of California slide that giant, thick veiny dick up your ass like everyone else who doesn't want trouble has to do.

Atticus · 03-04-2010, 08:40 AM

If you're in Cali I would suggest getting a Nevada license. A little more realistic to your situation.

Driving around LA with a car registered in Vegas isnt going to get a second look. However just getting a mail box isnt going to cover it, has to be a physical address.

I would consult a tax attorney and I'm sure they can cover all your bases and go over the pros and cons and then you can determine if the hassle is worth it.

DateDoc · 03-04-2010, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

FYI... California is one of the most aggressive states who will HOUND your ass over state tax. They can be ruthless.

They are the worst and it used to be (and may still be) that the FTB was exempt from this clause in Section 3294 of the civil code -

In an action for the breach of an obligation not arising from contract, where it is proven by clear and convincing evidence that the defendant has been guilty of oppression, fraud, or malice, the plaintiff, in addition to the actual damages, may recover damages for the sake of example and by way of punishing the defendant.

Which meant they pretty much had a get out of jail free card to fuck with you.

Here is an interesting read of how bad the FTB can be. Fortunately for Hyatt he won his case against them - http://www.hgexperts.com/article.asp?id=5410

woj · 03-04-2010, 09:31 AM

Just ask a lawyer, I can't believe you are posting $5k/day screenshots, and yet ask for legal advice on gfy

xxweekxx · 03-04-2010, 10:50 AM

hehe.. well not legal advice, just pointing out that IT IS possible to avoid it.. i dont wanna talk to a lawyer about it man.. i like keeping my ass out of jail so i pay all taxes due... just stating the obvious, that if you are smart you can completely escape some taxes..lol

also been having a rough patch, cpa networks cut out all those good biz opp/acai offers, so lately havent been doing so great.. making more like $2k/day or so after costs...

looking for the next big thing.

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xxweekxx Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 6,780	yeah but if you are renting, how can they tell you were in Cali? you could easily say u spent 11months of that year in florida... They cant prove if/if not you spent 6months in cali.. __________________ _________________ I am the best

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xxweekxx Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 6,780	i figured, but my question is if i dont have a license for the state, nor a car in the state (Easy to do both), and im just renting a place from someone, then how can they come for me for state tax? __________________ _________________ I am the best

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xxweekxx Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 6,780	cali tax is like 10%, throw in another 10% self employment, then another 20%+ for fed, and throw in my costs being very low with high revenue, and you can see how i want to legally minimize my tax __________________ _________________ I am the best

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xxweekxx Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 6,780	oh.. well currently i have a florida address/info, so you are saying if you go and visit and stay with your mom in new york for a year, then you gotta pay state income taxes to new york for that year? assuming you are originally from FL __________________ _________________ I am the best

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Atticus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,051	If you're in Cali I would suggest getting a Nevada license. A little more realistic to your situation. Driving around LA with a car registered in Vegas isnt going to get a second look. However just getting a mail box isnt going to cover it, has to be a physical address. I would consult a tax attorney and I'm sure they can cover all your bases and go over the pros and cons and then you can determine if the hassle is worth it.

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xxweekxx Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 6,780	hehe.. well not legal advice, just pointing out that IT IS possible to avoid it.. i dont wanna talk to a lawyer about it man.. i like keeping my ass out of jail so i pay all taxes due... just stating the obvious, that if you are smart you can completely escape some taxes..lol also been having a rough patch, cpa networks cut out all those good biz opp/acai offers, so lately havent been doing so great.. making more like $2k/day or so after costs... looking for the next big thing. __________________ _________________ I am the best Last edited by xxweekxx; 03-04-2010 at 10:51 AM..