All the biggest porn tubes are all for sale right now..

[PR_Dave]

There is a universal reason, lack of future updates.

The biggest operators see this on the horizon and are all trying to jump ship/sell while traffic is high.

Why are there going to be fewer updates in the future? Because very few companies are shooting new content anymore. That means there will be little for the tubes to poach.

[Jakez]

123 awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

[dyna mo]

interesting. has your company been approached to purchase? how do you conclude this is due to lack of future updates?

[ColetteX]

yes it sucks. also last few years no new music and no new movies were released

[Agent 488]

just looking through a new site list and there is fuck all lately. the only ones still putting out sites are those who mastered the art of the cross sale.

[SteveHardeman]

Originally Posted by PR_Dave

All the biggest porn tubes are all for sale right now..

Curious to know if this info is publicly available.

[brassmonkey]

i sell grapefruits and oranges good stuff

[CarlosTheGaucho]

They won't give you a quote withot an NDA signed and if anyone would sign he'll never ever post it anywhere publically.

Got approached by RedTube way back in the day.

I would just wonder what are the upsell ratios, how many sponsors are featured over there?

I bet you could count that on both hands, although there's plenty of people who'll really want to "grow their cocks" or "fuck hotties" in their area I also believe that 95 pct of their nowadays traffic is bookmarkers who just come for a short jerk off and you can hardly convert them on ads they see every day.

Shitty model.

[slapass]

Originally Posted by PR_Dave

There is a universal reason, lack of future updates.

There is enough porn out in the world to make a tube without this worry. Isn't their bigger issue cash flow? Took money to get where they are and any kid with a big server can make a tube and compete with them.

So maybe this -

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/tube8.com#trafficstats

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/pornhub.com#trafficstats

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/megaporn.com#trafficstats

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/spankw...m#trafficstats

etc.

[signupdamnit]

This and how successful would you be selling air in a sealed sandwich bag to random people on the street? We're getting there...

[seeandsee]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

i sell grapefruits and oranges good stuff

[Iron Fist]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

just looking through a new site list and there is fuck all lately. the only ones still putting out sites are those who mastered the art of the cross sale.

Well then you don't know where to look. There's plenty of new high quality sites... maybe they are making sure their content isn't being plastered all over the tubes.

[Agent 488]

Originally Posted by sharphead

Well then you don't know where to look. There's plenty of new high quality sites... maybe they are making sure their content isn't being plastered all over the tubes.

compared to 2-3 years ago there is no comparison.

[candyflip]

Originally Posted by ColetteX

yes it sucks. also last few years no new music and no new movies were released

[hypedough]

Originally Posted by candyflip

I know I think she just replies whatever's in her head at the moment, whether correct or not.

[PR_Dave]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

interesting. has your company been approached to purchase?

Pretty much anything that is for sale in adult will cross my desk.

[PR_Dave]

Originally Posted by slapass

Isn't their bigger issue cash flow?

Cash flow? Least of their worries.

http://www.xbiz.com/news/news_piece....all&q=brazzers

Well maybe some of them

[Bossman]

Interesting...

[MaDalton]

as a content producer you have to survive long enough till everyone is tired of seeing all the same old shit everywhere. which i guess will be in about 2-3 years - lol

[DateDoc]

IF this were the case it does not really matter. A lot of the big ones just recycle content. They use older movies to fill space up on daily updates.

For those that say there is lack of money being made - a 30 day 300x250 ad on youporn is selling for 35000 euros.

[Jim_Gunn]

Originally Posted by DateDoc

IF this were the case it does not really matter. A lot of the big ones just recycle content. They use older movies to fill space up on daily updates.

For those that say there is lack of money being made - a 30 day 300x250 ad on youporn is selling for 35000 euros.

Wow, that seems like an enormous sum of money for that ad space!

[DateDoc]

Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

Wow, that seems like an enormous sum of money for that ad space!

137,230,418 views
ad spot is sold thru April 3rd
http://www.ero-advertising.com/buyin...d=2817&days=30

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by DateDoc

137,230,418 views
ad spot is sold thru April 3rd
http://www.ero-advertising.com/buyin...d=2817&days=30

and 20 clicks

[Agent 488]

tube sites were always a pump and dump.

[DateDoc]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

and 20 clicks

lol, I bet the clicks are around 10k per day. Now, how many actually buy something?

[PR_Dave]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

tube sites were always a pump and dump.

As were MGP's

What will be next?

[slapass]

Originally Posted by DateDoc

lol, I bet the clicks are around 10k per day. Now, how many actually buy something?

So if they get 1/1000 which is pretty good for untargetted traffic, they would be looking at spending 1000 euros a day to get 10 sales or 300-1000 euros a day. Not many sponsors could keep that up very long under most circumstances. I think I am being too generous on the numbers too.

[brassmonkey]

i ran out of grapefruits but if you want oranges im your man

[Jakez]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

and 20 clicks

If you're going to have nearly 140 million people glancing at your ad, it's probably more about the branding then clicks/conversions.

[Nautilus]

I also noticed that most of the tube videos are still SD (4:3), newer HD videos (16:9) are rarely posted, while most of the freshly produced stuff is 16:9.

But I think there's still enough of old videos to keep updates rolling in for years, even if they keep updating at current average rate of 20-100 videos/day as most major tube sites do.

[Jarmusch]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

and 20 clicks

If it's an ad with a ripped dude, 20 clicks is probably right. Those ads are a major turn off when you're busting a nut to straight videos.

[tiger]

Tubes will convert the free tube model is fucked though and will not last.

[Farang]

Originally Posted by tiger

Tubes will convert the free tube model is fucked though and will not last.

I'd love to see that.

[Ross]

Originally Posted by DateDoc

IF this were the case it does not really matter. A lot of the big ones just recycle content. They use older movies to fill space up on daily updates.

For those that say there is lack of money being made - a 30 day 300x250 ad on youporn is selling for 35000 euros.

That zone would have to do 50 sales per day for it to be worthwhile for anyone to pick up. That is a lot of sales.

[The Duck]

I have not heard of any such thing.

[famous]

Originally Posted by tiger

Tubes will convert the free tube model is fucked though and will not last.

haven't everyone been saying that for 3 years? Hey atleast GFY is consistant.

[Cyber Fucker]

I don't think it's true but just in case...

SEE SIG NOW

[ColetteX]

i am doing great with tube traffic. btw what is it tube?

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by ColetteX

yes it sucks. also last few years no new music and no new movies were released

If you had $200 million to invest would you invest it in a movie that is most likely to be pirated and thus have no chance at making a profit? I supposed if you're retarded you would. So we have to rely on Hollywood to be run by retards to get new movies?

[Agent 488]

Originally Posted by GatorB

If you had $200 million to invest would you invest it in a movie that is most likely to be pirated and thus have no chance at making a profit? I supposed if you're retarded you would. So we have to rely on Hollywood to be run by retards to get new movies?

so no movies have made profits since torrents? don't be a retard.

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by Nautilus

I also noticed that most of the tube videos are still SD (4:3), newer HD videos (16:9) are rarely posted, while most of the freshly produced stuff is 16:9.

But I think there's still enough of old videos to keep updates rolling in for years, even if they keep updating at current average rate of 20-100 videos/day as most major tube sites do.

If old movies are good enough why are new movies being made? because surfers get tired of old shit. Face it there's enough porn made between 1970-1990 to last anyone a lifetime. So why bother to make porn after 1990?

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

so no movies have made profits since torrents? don't be a retard.

You do realize that the internet is new and high speed connections are new and not available everywhere. Not everyone knows of torrents or even how to use them. Try thinking LONG term. Back when AIDS started everyone though "it's just a few fags why worry?" You can't tell me a movie that was torrented 12 million times had ZERO effect on box office.

[Agent 488]

Originally Posted by GatorB

You do realize that the internet is new and high speed connections are new and not available everywhere. Not everyone knows of torrents or even how to use them. Try thinking LONG term. Back when AIDS started everyone though "it's just a few fags why worry?" You can't tell me a movie that was torrented 12 million times had ZERO effect on box office.

pornhub gets more traffic than the apple website idiot.

54th biggest website in the world or so.

fact.

wake the fuck up. doesn't mean i agree, but it's reality.

EVERYONE KNOWS.

[Major (Tom)]

Originally Posted by PR_Dave

Pretty much anything that is for sale in adult will cross my desk.

Indeed!
duke

[Brujah]

Didn't Shap and some others say these Tube sites are highly profitable? Buy! Buy! Buy!

[andrej_NDC]

Originally Posted by DateDoc

lol, I bet the clicks are around 10k per day. Now, how many actually buy something?

50k+ with a good banner easily. Ratios 1:500-1000 with a good site.

[Donkey Punch]

On to the next one

[LoveSandra]

looks great

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

pornhub gets more traffic than the apple website idiot.

54th biggest website in the world or so.

fact.

wake the fuck up. doesn't mean i agree, but it's reality.

EVERYONE KNOWS.

Whyare you calling me an idiot. WTF does what you posted have to do with anything I posted? Seriously who is the idiot?

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by PR_Dave

There is a universal reason, lack of future updates.

The biggest operators see this on the horizon and are all trying to jump ship/sell while traffic is high.

Why are there going to be fewer updates in the future? Because very few companies are shooting new content anymore. That means there will be little for the tubes to poach.

The nay sayers will say there will always be porn made but who in their right mind is going to invest in a money losing endeavor? Thos enay sayers live ina a fnatasy world where they believe companies will just continue to make free entertainent for the masses for the heck of it. Seriously all of us here are supposed to be businesspeople. Now who here would invest in something they KNEW was going to lose money? No one. If the porn companies can't make a profit guess what they'll stop making porn. This is common sense. anyone that thinks otherwise is retarded.