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Old 05-28-2010, 04:27 PM   #1
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Constitutional liar Obama threatens 14 governors with arrest

Posted by Europe on May 26, 2010


A chilling report from the Foreign Military Intelligence Directorate (GRU) prepared for Prime Minister Putin warns today that United States President Barack Obama has had served on 14 US Governors National Security Letters (NSLs) warning that if their actions in attempting to form what are called State Defense Forces are not halted they will face ?immediate? arrest for the crime of treason.

The use of NSLs in the United States was authorized by the Patriot Act law enacted after the September 11, 2001 attacks and forbids anyone receiving them from even acknowledging their existence, and was reauthorized by Obama?s ?rubberstamp? Congress this past February over the objections of both civil and human rights groups who warned they mimic similar type ?government security notices? enacted under both the former German Nazi and Soviet Communist regimes.

To the issue angering Obama against these State Governors, this report continues, is their attempt to reestablish what are called State Defense Forces which are described as follows:

?State Defense Forces (SDF) (also known as State Guards, State Military Reserves, or State Militias) in the United States are military units that operate under the sole authority of a state government; they are not regulated by the National Guard Bureau nor are they part of the Army National Guard of the United States.

State Defense Forces are authorized by state and federal law and are under the command of the governor of each state. State Defense Forces are distinct from their state?s National Guard in that they cannot become federal entities.


The federal government recognizes State Defense Forces under 32 U.S.C. § 109 which provides that State Defense Forces as a whole may not be called, ordered, or drafted into the Armed Forces of the United States, thus preserving their separation from the National Guard.?

Important to note is that Obama, as President of the United States is also its most powerful military leader known by the term of Commander in Chief, and is authorized by the Militia Act of 1903 to federalize his individual States National Guard Forces putting them under his command, something he does not have the power to do with State Defense Forces.

Obama?s fear of these State Defense Forces, this report says, rests with his not having power over them, and with the bulk of the US Military Forces he does control being stretched to near breaking with the ongoing wars in Iraq and Afghanistan would leave these State military forces under the control of these Governors in ?defacto control? of the United States.

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What are the 14 states?
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Exactly...since I have not heard of any state that is attempting to do this.
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I am having a difficult time believing that any state is considering putting a budget towards a state military. Most states barely have the money to feed people. I really can't see the general population going for a state military either.
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The United States of America is the country with the world's largest GPD and largest GDP per capita. I think it is also the country with the world's strongest army. China comes at 2nd place with the world's 2nd largest GDP. I have heard that China is growing rapidly and in 50 years or so, China will become the #1 country with the world's largest GDP. Some smart people also think that China is good at hiding its true strength.
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Exactly...since I have not heard of any state that is attempting to do this.
Alabama
California
georgia
indiana
maryland
massachusetts
michigan
new york
ohio
oregon
south carolina
texas
virginia
washington

may be others i dont know
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A chilling report from the Foreign Military Intelligence Directorate (GRU) prepared for Prime Minister Putin

I stopped reading right there
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Pretty sure Obama is not calling for the dismantling of any state's National Guard.
those arent the national guard, it is seperate. some may be included in the department that administers the national guard but it is still a seperate entity that cannot be called into duty for the federal government. I'm not saying he is, someone said they hadn't heard of these groups and I was bringing them to light.
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Okay, show me a link to a reputable source that backs your claim that Obama wants to dismantle the California National Guard, or that of another state. It has sure avoided the press if true.

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That isn't what the article says. The article is alleging that several states are trying to form their own military entity and Obama is warning them not to.
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National Guards have been Federalized. What the states want is constitutional militia's not Federal "National" Guard
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I only read a couple of the links to the States listed...but they are not Military Forces...they are to assist the State in emergencies when the National Guard is not available ie when the Guard has be Nationationalized. Perfectly ligit and the article is pigshit as I expected it to be.
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BTW...the one in Oregon was formed in 1961...I didn't check the dates on the others I looked at.
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I only read a couple of the links to the States listed...but they are not Military Forces...they are to assist the State in emergencies when the National Guard is not available ie when the Guard has be Nationationalized. Perfectly ligit and the article is pigshit as I expected it to be.
The national guard is nationalized.
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That isn't what the article says. The article is alleging that several states are trying to form their own military entity and Obama is warning them not to.
That is what I was thinking as well.

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You're an idiot.
I clicked the link for CA first, since that is where I live. At the top of the page it says CA National Guard in the header. The link provided goes to the CA National Guard Reserves. Buy your own gun, buy your own uniform. Like being on the police reserves. You get to look like a cop for $1/year.

I believe you are an idiot if you think Obama is trying to dismantle the CA National Guard Reserves.
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Is this the same Euro source that said a North Korean torpedo caused the oil spill
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I should have said when National Gaurd units are not available because they are deployed and not all of the National Gaurd in any of the states are deployed 100% of the time.
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I clicked the link for CA first, since that is where I live. At the top of the page it says CA National Guard in the header. The link provided goes to the CA National Guard Reserves. Buy your own gun, buy your own uniform. Like being on the police reserves. You get to look like a cop for $1/year.

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OK found this. Interesting and also fucked up:

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