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16,000 new IRS agents?
OK, so the healthcare bill is going to pass, everyone got their sweetheart deal and the country is getting fucked and the left thinks this is what we need, even though the majority of people polled don't want it and it may not be constitutional and the states are going to sue the government.
But now that the bill is public, they're finding out just how fucked up this bill is How do you feel about 16,000 new IRS agents? Thats what it's going to take to collect all the taxes and make sure you are either paying an extra tax or buying healthcare insurance from a approved by the government healthcare provider. ***Highlights of New IRS Authority*** IRS agents verify if you have ?acceptable? health care coverage IRS has the authority to fine you up to $2,250 or 2 percent of your income (whichever is greater) for failure to prove that you have purchased ?minimum essential coverage? IRS can confiscate your tax refund IRS audits are likely to increase IRS will need up to $10 billion to administer the new health care program this decade IRS may need to hire as many as 16,500 additional auditors, agents and other employees to investigate and collect billions in new taxes from Americans Nearly half of all these new individual mandate taxes will be paid by Americans earning less than 300 percent of poverty ($66,150 for a family of four) ***SPECIAL EXEMPTION*** Democrats prohibit the IRS from imposing these taxes and penalties on illegal immigrants http://camp.house.gov/UploadedFiles/..._Authority.PDF
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Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants think about that |
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thats quite a system they have planned.
health care is pretty simple in most countries... |
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Good luck taxing the thiefs who walk around at night and sell fake concert tickets. Who's going to tax them?
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some bullshit shit
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16,000 new agents. That is a huge amount of new agents. Could it be that the United States has a problem with taxing everyone?
I read some textbooks about the Canadian economy, and the textbooks say that the estimated underground profits that go unreported for taxation are 30%. Who knows? Maybe these estimates are too low, even.
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thats fucked up, and every puppet that signed that bill needs to be tossed out of office ASAP...
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Hmm
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Thank god I'm not US citizen.
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I ask my wife weekly if we can move to Japan in her parents house, but since I don't speak the language she does not want to take the burden of doing everything for me. Instead we are going to end up buying a home here and start a family...and have to deal with all this new bs that will sink this country. Maybe it is just the state I live in but it seems they always take more money from us...
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The Health care system in Japan is one of the best in the world. Japan provides healthcare services, including screening examinations for particular diseases at no direct cost to the patient, prenatal care, and infectious disease control, are provided by national and local governments. Payment for personal medical services is offered through a universal health care insurance system that provides relative equality of access, with fees set by a government committee. People without insurance through employers can participate in a national health insurance program administered by local governments. Patients are free to select physicians or facilities of their choice and cannot be denied coverage. Hospitals, by law, must be run as non-profit and managed by physicians. For profit corporations are not allowed to own or operate hospitals. It is compulsory to be enrolled in one of Japanese insurance programs if you are a resident of Japan |
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Yep, why the fuck do we need IRS agents investigating whether you're buying insurance or not? Now the insurers will have even more customers since everyone is going to need to buy insurance. Nice way to blow the entire medical insurance industry.
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national sales tax ... 12% ..
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If this passes I am going to take classes for an X-ray tech or radiologist because this is where the jobs will be in healthcare. My wifes already an RN. ![]() |
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You should learn to spell. I can't believe anyone would hire you to write anything.
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I would say the same for you, as you've proven to be incredibly incompetent. Who do you write for, the blind?
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Be nice enough to show me where.
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The thread you posted for starters..
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i wonder if we will go back to the 50's when the irs used to ruin peoples lives over a tax debt...
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So you have nothing? Nice.
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Gotta love how politicians can upload propaganda to House and Senate servers.
Also love how they take careful attention to footnote everything except the page with scary pronouncements. It is also funny to read some of the footnotes; referring to letters someone wrote and such. |
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Gotta love how delusional you are.. Then again, I just called you out a few minutes ago. Ignore reality JFalcon, I don't want your self esteem to be any lower.
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California is an entitlement state, that's why big business has moved out and welfare recipient's have moved in and we now have one of the highest % of unemployment. Some counties over 20%. Now this is going to happen to the whole fucking country I fear. And stop basing what works in other countries, the US is not like any country on earth, base what has happened to entitlement states, they are the ones that don't have any money right now, like California that raised state employment taxes 10% last year
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Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants think about that |
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then they have the tax on the tax...so income tax..and sales tax...and then other taxes probably why we usually have money left over at the end of the year ive just finished paying taxes....not fun...im poor now need to send you some joins..lol |
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Sweet talking politician from the most corrupt political machine in the union?
And the fact when he give his speeches, he never looks into the camera, just at his teleprompters, like he can't look you in the eye because he's LYING!
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Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants think about that |
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This criminal, plain and simple.
I heard something about Arizona fighting this thing. I don't know the whole story, but I am sure it will be on the news again.
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Hey, those hooks lines and sinkers cost money you know.
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Got your rose colored glasses on?
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Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants think about that |
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If I can get full coverage, I'll get glasses for sure.
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well in 4 years, maybe, but you will start paying now
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Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants think about that |
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there are over 20 states going to fight this on the grounds that it's unconstitutional, Idaho was the first to make the announcement, to make people buy insurance or face fines.
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Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants think about that |
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What the fuck did everyone expect having all these libs running the show?
This is only the beginning. We better vote some of those ass clowns out of office or amnesty is next... Change you can believe in.... hahaha
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That's because NOBODY knows what's in the bill. Both the left and the right have their bullshit interpretations of it. But that gives credit to the Democrats and their political suicide, trying to ram a bill they haven't even read.
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The only people not bringing this is up are the liberal news agencies and Obama
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Congrats to all the winners!
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But nice fear mongering, which has been very typical of Repukes throughout this whole thing. I suppose you also believe in going before the death pannels? |
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Liberals calls facts=fear mongering. Hilarious.
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i don't find the link in your first post credible as they clearly have an agenda against the bill entirely. every news article in google news always has republicans just 'saying' this. why isn't there something official?
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That's how we do it here.. Reminds me of a story that floated around for years during the race with the Russians to the moon.. Nasa spent millions of dollars developing a pen that worked in zero gravity,the Russians took a pencil.
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Better hide your wallets, Obama is after your money and will give it to the poor and lazy.
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Think of it this way, and I hope I'm not going to fast over 20 states are filing against this bill because it forces people to be in the system, they have to pay for it, everyone, not just the rich. The IRS is going to be policing this here's some reading, I hope that doesn't hurt your head http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/po...-56781377.html
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Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants think about that |
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Under current law, it is a felony for a government official to release taxpayer information in all but the most limited of circumstances. One such exception is for law enforcement; the IRS is allowed to give taxpayer information to prosecutors in criminal cases. The information can also, in some instances, be released to the Social Security Administration and the Veterans' Administration for the determination of benefits. The health care bills would change the Internal Revenue Code to permit the IRS to give similar information to the vast, new health care bureaucracy. Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/po...#ixzz0ixYAK42v
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Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants think about that |
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Robin hood he ain't
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Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants think about that |
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So why, exactly, do you think a: that Obama wants to do this and b:that the poor are lazy? I bet you ain't rich. I bet you don't even make 80K a year. So, I guess that means you are lazy.
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Actual bill here http://docs.house.gov/edlabor/AAHCA-BillText-071409.pdf |
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