Model Mayhem or One Model Place?

[digitaldivas]

Which one is more popular, I just did a rank check on the domains
and

modelhayhem
Traffic Rank: 1,093
Traffic Rank in US: 328
Sites Linking In: 3,563


onemodelplace
Traffic Rank: 14,392
Traffic Rank in US: 3,428
Sites Linking In: 1,102

Interesting. I am very curious about omp. Seems much more serious than MM

Anyone have any experiences or comparisons?

I just saw a model on MM advertising that she was available for booking "Fetish" shoots, I email her, she goes to me site, see's that I would be worshipping her feet on camera. Then informs me that she is married and "so not into that" blah.

[Mutt]

OMP is a mess, i hate it, as a website. For models, pretty good. MM is a much better website, for models, girls are much more delusional and flakey. for fetish, i think it would be better. You can get kicked off MM in a heartbeat for anything connected with adult/porn.

[SteveHardeman]

I have a profile on both. MM is harder to get an account with. You have to convince the mods you're some sort of "artist" before they'll approve your account. And you can't be overtly adult in your profile. The models there also seem to take modeling quite seriously and are more offended by "adult work" offers. They don't have an adult classification so you can't even search for girls who'll do various types of work. They do have a ton more models than OMP though.

OMP is better for me. You can search by what girls do and don't do and they'll generally say in their profile, exactly what they do which saves them and me a lot of time.

My two cents.

YMMV. I'd get an account at both. What can it hurt?

[digitaldivas]

yes that is true. i have had my mm account for years, get along good with the mods, etc. but yes they do not like adult, although there is adult stuff on the mm forum like everyday

[digitaldivas]

Is there another Model Mayhem like site out there? That is free to paid, or do they totally own that market.

[NaughtyRob]

Yes, OMP used to rock, I was a paying customer from January, 2002 until about a year ago. MM rocks. You CAN find good girls on Model Mayhem but you will also get the models that want $150-$250 per hour for implied nudes. lol

Originally Posted by Mutt

OMP is a mess, i hate it, as a website. For models, pretty good. MM is a much better website, for models, girls are much more delusional and flakey. for fetish, i think it would be better. You can get kicked off MM in a heartbeat for anything connected with adult/porn.

[NaughtyRob]

I'm working on a version that allows adult stuff. It will take a bit to build up the girls on there, but I have experience doing it. I started Modelgig.com in late 2001.

Originally Posted by digitaldivas

Is there another Model Mayhem like site out there? That is free to paid, or do they totally own that market.

[digitaldivas]

Yes, when I travel, I usually hit up here as well, but um, yeah. Yes, you still own modelgig right?

[fl_prn_str]

Originally Posted by Mutt

OMP is a mess, i hate it, as a website. For models, pretty good. MM is a much better website, for models, girls are much more delusional and flakey. for fetish, i think it would be better. You can get kicked off MM in a heartbeat for anything connected with adult/porn.

Mutt knows his shit.....

[fl_prn_str]

your better off check these....if its "adult" models you want-

Adult Model Place

Adult Staffing

Erotic Staffing

Hardcore Modeling

Sexy Jobs

all dot com's....some more traffic then others. but by and large all direct and to the point....Nude and above!

[wtfent]

Originally Posted by digitaldivas

Which one is more popular, I just did a rank check on the domains
and

modelhayhem
Traffic Rank: 1,093
Traffic Rank in US: 328
Sites Linking In: 3,563


onemodelplace
Traffic Rank: 14,392
Traffic Rank in US: 3,428
Sites Linking In: 1,102

Interesting. I am very curious about omp. Seems much more serious than MM

Anyone have any experiences or comparisons?

I just saw a model on MM advertising that she was available for booking "Fetish" shoots, I email her, she goes to me site, see's that I would be worshipping her feet on camera. Then informs me that she is married and "so not into that" blah.

I think you searched the wrong domain. MM is 13,730,733 on Alexa, you posted the right stats for OMP though. I think its clear who gets more traffic. lol

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/modelh...m#trafficstats

[Mutt]

i had a paid subscription to SexyJobs for a couple of years - never came close to finding a great new face on there. And a worse response rate from girls than on either OMP or MM - i bitched out the owner when I quit, wouldn't hurt them to check if whoever posted the profile actually responds to emails. i did find a few girls that I sent to other people who shot them for content.

tho............ Peter Romero says he discovered Bree Olsen on SexyJobs, flew her out to California and had her exclusive. i guess I wasn't checking it often enough because I surely would have noticed Bree and been offering her major bucks.

MM and OMP are frustrating, I saw a girl on MM recently, an amazing girl, would be perfect for a teen solo site, had 'nudity' as a yes - I sent her a message immediately and literally couldn't sleep, kept waking up to see if she responded. She didn't. Days passed and no response, she didn't ever log in again after the first time. And that happens a lot on those sites. Could be a fake profile or simply a girl who was bored and found MM and posted some pics and totally forgot about it.

[Mutt]

this is the frustration and typical of MM - look at this girl, she's amazing, i've seen her boobs, they're round and big and perfect. she's already done nude modeling, for a hipster New York erotic magazine that publishes 4 times a year and has a circulation of probably 500 copies. so I contacted her and showed her what I wanted and offered her moolah. she replied back 'no thanks, i don't want to go down that road'

[digitaldivas]

oh yeah, there are so many pretty women on MM. No, i rechecked the model mayhem stats on alexa, I have provided the link. I think you misspelled your query.
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/modelm...m#trafficstats

[digitaldivas]

Still though, sadly, as many pretty girls are on MM, situations like the model on MM advertising that she was available for booking "Fetish" shoots, emailing her, she goes to my site, see's that I would be worshipping her feet on camera. Then informs me that she is married and "so not into that" ... Is just retarded imho.

What the fuck does she think the word "Fetish" is?

[CHMOD]

Originally Posted by Mutt

i had a paid subscription to SexyJobs for a couple of years - never came close to finding a great new face on there. And a worse response rate from girls than on either OMP or MM - i bitched out the owner when I quit, wouldn't hurt them to check if whoever posted the profile actually responds to emails. i did find a few girls that I sent to other people who shot them for content.

tho............ Peter Romero says he discovered Bree Olsen on SexyJobs, flew her out to California and had her exclusive. i guess I wasn't checking it often enough because I surely would have noticed Bree and been offering her major bucks.

MM and OMP are frustrating, I saw a girl on MM recently, an amazing girl, would be perfect for a teen solo site, had 'nudity' as a yes - I sent her a message immediately and literally couldn't sleep, kept waking up to see if she responded. She didn't. Days passed and no response, she didn't ever log in again after the first time. And that happens a lot on those sites. Could be a fake profile or simply a girl who was bored and found MM and posted some pics and totally forgot about it.

That's the problem with these sites. Girls are not serious.

Even if they state that they make nude, 1 out of 10 will answer.

[Jon Oso]

I hate that "I don't do nude but I'll do implied nude for 100-200 an hour" shit.

Unless you're a well known model or it's getting put into print most of these girls are not worth buying lunch.

I know quite a few girls on MM and they do "implied nude" or "tasteful nude" shots and get paid little or no money and all they have to show are horrible pictures that are over processed, poorly lit and have no sense of purpose.

With me - they get the same horrible photos but at least I will pay them a couple hundred bucks for the shoot but they won't do "Adult Modeling" even though half them have their twats showing on MM/OMP.


I'd rather just deal with the girls from craigslist that you have to email with for a couple weeks until they realize that after having 3 kids and a meth addiction you aren't going to pay them $3500 for a solo scene.

[digitaldivas]

well the interesting thing about model networking sites is that I know alot of photographers here and I know that I am compensating top dollar for what I am asking. I have fabulous references, shit, even girls that I have "hosted", ie. let crash in my studio while they are traveling. And it is still about a 50 percent chance that I will go from emailing to meeting to booking all in the same month.

Other photographers locally say the same thing. I figured that with this recession, etc that the models that are trying to find work would actually want to book. Now of course, I know everyone is not going to want to be on an online fetish site, but... just saying... or maybe just ranting.

CL is another story, I have not really used that site as a tool for finding talent so much. Maybe I should start.

[shimmy2]

Originally Posted by Jon Oso

I'd rather just deal with the girls from craigslist that you have to email with for a couple weeks until they realize that after having 3 kids and a meth addiction you aren't going to pay them $3500 for a solo scene.

the problem many non-pro CL girls is they require too much explaining like you say, most are only in it for a quick money fix, and their acting abilities are horrible. i only use CL for spanking scene girls as there really is no way to mess that up. hell they dont even have to talk. no more POV/girlfriend type of CL models for me... if you need a girl to act or at least have enough brains to introduce herself in a scene then hire some real talent

[Nikki_Licks]

Originally Posted by Jon Oso

I hate that "I don't do nude but I'll do implied nude for 100-200 an hour" shit.

Unless you're a well known model or it's getting put into print most of these girls are not worth buying lunch.

I know quite a few girls on MM and they do "implied nude" or "tasteful nude" shots and get paid little or no money and all they have to show are horrible pictures that are over processed, poorly lit and have no sense of purpose.

With me - they get the same horrible photos but at least I will pay them a couple hundred bucks for the shoot but they won't do "Adult Modeling" even though half them have their twats showing on MM/OMP.


I'd rather just deal with the girls from craigslist that you have to email with for a couple weeks until they realize that after having 3 kids and a meth addiction you aren't going to pay them $3500 for a solo scene.

You don't know shit! Go have another beer........

J/K

[Marquis85]

ModelMayhem is more popular. No one uses OMP anymore.

[Nikki_Licks]

Originally Posted by Marquis85

ModelMayhem is more popular. No one uses OMP anymore.

I have been getting more and more models applying from both places. What I find strange is that when you read their profiles, it clearly states that they will do artistic nudes or something along those lines.....guess times are hard for them so they are willing to do more ;)

[F-U-Jimmy]

OMP is dead they are even trying to make you pay by e-mailing you that your paid membership is coming to an end and if you don't pay, your account is shut down. Even if like me you have never had a paid account with them.

Model Mayhem is a better site, models are a little more professional but i have never had much luck hiring from either site.

This may be of use http://glamourmodels.com i used to post on their forum with some success, but again don't post for hardcore or you will be banned and removed. Otherwise local Craig's list works well...

[amacontent]

Originally Posted by Mutt

tho............ Peter Romero says he discovered Bree Olsen on SexyJobs, flew her out to California and had her exclusive. i guess I wasn't checking it often enough because I surely would have noticed Bree and been offering her major bucks.
.

Didnt you know Peter discovered every girl in porn. Its true .. he said so.

[GregE]

Originally Posted by shimmy2

i only use CL for spanking scene girls as there really is no way to mess that up. hell they dont even have to talk.

[Jon Oso]

Originally Posted by shimmy2

the problem many non-pro CL girls is they require too much explaining like you say, most are only in it for a quick money fix, and their acting abilities are horrible. i only use CL for spanking scene girls as there really is no way to mess that up. hell they dont even have to talk. no more POV/girlfriend type of CL models for me... if you need a girl to act or at least have enough brains to introduce herself in a scene then hire some real talent

I've had a couple really good finds and good solo performers from CL, and I've had some girls that I've had to coach every couple minutes on what they should be doing. It's a crap shoot but it's easier to get first timers from there.

[VikingMan]

Originally Posted by Mutt

this is the frustration and typical of MM - look at this girl, she's amazing, i've seen her boobs, they're round and big and perfect. she's already done nude modeling, for a hipster New York erotic magazine that publishes 4 times a year and has a circulation of probably 500 copies. so I contacted her and showed her what I wanted and offered her moolah. she replied back 'no thanks, i don't want to go down that road'

damn damn damn that girl is fine. Her lips look so hot.

[digitaldivas]

Originally Posted by F-U-Jimmy

OMP is dead they are even trying to make you pay by e-mailing you that your paid membership is coming to an end and if you don't pay, your account is shut down. Even if like me you have never had a paid account with them.

Model Mayhem is a better site, models are a little more professional but i have never had much luck hiring from either site.

This may be of use http://glamourmodels.com i used to post on their forum with some success, but again don't post for hardcore or you will be banned and removed. Otherwise local Craig's list works well...

thanks for the link!

[digitaldivas]

OK, shimmy, mr oslo, have you guys ever had any bad experiences through CL?

[Jon Oso]

Originally Posted by digitaldivas

OK, shimmy, mr oslo, have you guys ever had any bad experiences through CL?

I'm assuming that typo was directed at me LOL.

Hell yeah, I've had bad experiences with every method of recruitment I've used.

OMP/ MM I haven't even been able to get girls to come shoot, or even think about it because porn is the devil.

CL results in a lot of flakes, a couple of girls that were HOURS late showing up, and a couple girls that looked NOTHING like the pictures they sent which is now why I require meeting models before booking them to shoot. It's been my best avenue yet.

Referrals have been great and bad for me as well. I've had models refer their friends to me and they either show up looking great and ready to rock or they look like a hot mess and I have to be the bad guy and say "Um no I'm not shooting you" (which I rarely do) and then my friends / other models get mad at me when they should know better.

And of course with approaching girls out and about I get the looks of disgust, pissed off boyfriends when I tell them they can be involved as much as I can tolerate, and girls that are totally gung-ho for it then flake out.

I've been recently sending out feelers to girls I've worked with in strip clubs and they're circulating that I'm shooting content which has had a bit of interest after a week or so. So we'll see how that pans out.

[justinsain]

I gave up when models started demanding to be paid AND receive a disc of ALL images taken for their own use. However, some will let you skip touching them up first.

[Young]

Originally Posted by wtfent

I think you searched the wrong domain. MM is 13,730,733 on Alexa, you posted the right stats for OMP though. I think its clear who gets more traffic. lol

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/modelh...m#trafficstats

Model Mayhem has cracked Alexa top 1,000 on more than one occasion.

You're wayyyy off buddy.

[Jon Oso]

Originally Posted by justinsain

I gave up when models started demanding to be paid AND receive a disc of ALL images taken for their own use. However, some will let you skip touching them up first.

LOL I have gotten that too. They want copies of all the documents their signing (which I have zero problem doing I'd want that too) and then they want me to edit and burn all the image and video to disc before they leave. When I tell them how long it's going to take just to get the video ON the computer they usually give up on that.

[Jim_Gunn]

I have recruited lots of new models through online sources over the years. Especially SexyJobs.com and OMP. I never tried Model Mayhem though. Besides agents; model referrals and girls emailing me through my sites have always worked well for me. Back in the 90's I used to comb strip clubs all over North America pretty successfully but don't have time or patience for that anymore. Being a well known porn director for nineteen years has gotten me so many relationships with people on all levels of the business that I can pretty much just sit back and check my email and wait for my phone to ring nowadays with new teen girls almost every day.

[digitaldivas]

Originally Posted by Jon Oso

I'm assuming that typo was directed at me LOL.

Hell yeah, I've had bad experiences with every method of recruitment I've used.

OMP/ MM I haven't even been able to get girls to come shoot, or even think about it because porn is the devil.

CL results in a lot of flakes, a couple of girls that were HOURS late showing up, and a couple girls that looked NOTHING like the pictures they sent which is now why I require meeting models before booking them to shoot. It's been my best avenue yet.

Referrals have been great and bad for me as well. I've had models refer their friends to me and they either show up looking great and ready to rock or they look like a hot mess and I have to be the bad guy and say "Um no I'm not shooting you" (which I rarely do) and then my friends / other models get mad at me when they should know better.

And of course with approaching girls out and about I get the looks of disgust, pissed off boyfriends when I tell them they can be involved as much as I can tolerate, and girls that are totally gung-ho for it then flake out.

I've been recently sending out feelers to girls I've worked with in strip clubs and they're circulating that I'm shooting content which has had a bit of interest after a week or so. So we'll see how that pans out.

Yeah, sorry for the typo/ Thanks for the 411

[digitaldivas]

Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

I have recruited lots of new models through online sources over the years. Especially SexyJobs.com and OMP. I never tried Model Mayhem though. Besides agents; model referrals and girls emailing me through my sites have always worked well for me. Back in the 90's I used to comb strip clubs all over North America pretty successfully but don't have time or patience for that anymore. Being a well known porn director for nineteen years has gotten me so many relationships with people on all levels of the business that I can pretty much just sit back and check my email and wait for my phone to ring nowadays with new teen girls almost every day.

Lol, that is what I am trying to do. I am a bit weirded out at the fact of how expensive it is to really take off and "tour" the U.S.. Getting women to model for me. Looking back, were those trips worth it to you. In your experiences, did you ever get home and say "wow, I am so happy I met that girl, booked her and shot her, if I had not traveled, I would have never found her"?

[Jon Oso]

Originally Posted by digitaldivas

Yeah, sorry for the typo/ Thanks for the 411

No problem, I only started doing this for real about a year ago - before that I was just trying to get girls for shoots that didn't really have any purpose and we'd see where it would go or friends would ask me to take their pictures because I had an expensive camera LOL.

[digitaldivas]

Originally Posted by Jon Oso

No problem, I only started doing this for real about a year ago - before that I was just trying to get girls for shoots that didn't really have any purpose and we'd see where it would go or friends would ask me to take their pictures because I had an expensive camera LOL.

It's a pretty exciting thing. I have been shooting since 2000. Self taught, Sean Hartgrove, the fetish photographer is one of my best friends. That certainly has not hurt. I am getting a place May 1, which is a 1300 sq ft shooting space. Just 2 big rooms. I am going to live there as well. Base out of Denver and just travel. For me, pretty much everything from now on will focused on procuring cool talent. Fuck everything else, I just want to shoot. I REALLY dig video as well.

[Raf1]

Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

I have recruited lots of new models through online sources over the years. Especially SexyJobs.com and OMP. I never tried Model Mayhem though. Besides agents; model referrals and girls emailing me through my sites have always worked well for me. Back in the 90's I used to comb strip clubs all over North America pretty successfully but don't have time or patience for that anymore. Being a well known porn director for nineteen years has gotten me so many relationships with people on all levels of the business that I can pretty much just sit back and check my email and wait for my phone to ring nowadays with new teen girls almost every day.

that's how it is when you build up a name for yourself. The same goes for any business