Ron Paul VS Obama

[JC Maldini]

Just read this on Rasmussen.

Election 2012: Barack Obama 42%, Ron Paul 41%

I love how Drudge and Fox News report it as a shock. If they would get their heads out of their asses and stop selling this left vs right crap they would realize there are a lot of smart citizens out there who know the game and are damn tired of it.

It's the left vs right worst nightmare. Someone who actually leads based on principles and not by party lines.

[The Demon]

https://youtube.com/user/schiffre.../1/qRbf_6QKR98

As long as Schiff is either Vice President or Fed Chairman.

[IllTestYourGirls]

[IllTestYourGirls]

Heres the link and heres some interesting numbers

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...42_ron_paul_41

Voters not affiliated with either major party give Paul a 47% to 28% edge over the president.

He is the peoples choice.

[BFT3K]

I like him, but he is too honest to ever become the president.



https://youtube.com/watch?v=cQrwKr_b4Lg

Even the Tea Party movement, that he started, has marginalized him, and swapped him out for Sister Sarah.

[The Demon]

Too honest, and his foreign policy ideas are too passive..

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by The Demon

Too honest, and his foreign policy ideas are too passive..

Yeah he needs to have blood lust to kill women in children in countries we are not at war with like Obama....

[IllTestYourGirls]

Anyone know who paid for the poll? Looks like Ron is getting ready to run.

[mpahlca]

LOL Ron Paul seriously you guys crack me up wait Ross Perot didnt he win too L O FUCKING L get a clue Ron Paul becomes President the day everyone else in line to it is dead.

[saucygirl]

I don't know anyone with any sense that would take a Rasmussen poll seriously or any poll for that matter.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/20...b-On-The-Scale

[JC Maldini]

Originally Posted by saucygirl

I don't know anyone with any sense that would take a Rasmussen poll seriously or any poll for that matter.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/20...b-On-The-Scale

HA! As you use daily kos for a reference

[Daddy Big Nuts]

Originally Posted by mpahlca

LOL Ron Paul seriously you guys crack me up wait Ross Perot didnt he win too L O FUCKING L get a clue Ron Paul becomes President the day everyone else in line to it is dead.

I guess that you don't remember when Ross Perot was winning in the polls do you? He didn't get elected because he didn't want to be ...he was trying to prove a point.

[saucygirl]

Originally Posted by JC Maldini

HA! As you use daily kos for a reference

Hey at least the left leaning blogosphere is not riddled daily with misinformation like FAUX News.

[The Demon]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

Yeah he needs to have blood lust to kill women in children in countries we are not at war with like Obama....

You go from one extreme to the other. Way to sacrifice logic for emotion.

[The Demon]

Originally Posted by saucygirl

Hey at least the left leaning blogosphere is not riddled daily with misinformation like FAUX News.

That double standard is priceless. I don't want to call you an idiot but it's really hard. "The left isn't full of shit but the right is!!" Yea, good logic there. CNN and MSNBC are NOT as bad as fox news. Good one.

[BFT3K]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

Yeah he needs to have blood lust to kill women in children in countries we are not at war with, like Obama....

Let's play Revisionist History, with your host - IllTestYourGirls!

[2012]

fuck that, bring Bush back. things were obviously better ! We so soon forget the good ole days.

I can't even have a beer with this fucker

[uno]

Originally Posted by JC Maldini

HA! As you use daily kos for a reference

No one but fox news takes rasmussen seriously right now.

[PornMD]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

I love him but he needs to tone down his voice a bit...at least in that vid he was starting to sound a bit like Ross Perot, whom not many people ever took seriously.

The Republicans desperately need a younger John Edwards looking type that follows everything Ron Paul does. As a whole, they've been losing the charisma war in politics for a long time and especially younger generations mostly aren't even going to listen to an old guy with a high voice anymore. Sounds fucking lame but welcome to society today.

[saucygirl]

Originally Posted by The Demon

That double standard is priceless. I don't want to call you an idiot but it's really hard. "The left isn't full of shit but the right is!!" Yea, good logic there. CNN and MSNBC are NOT as bad as fox news. Good one.

I don't give a flying fuck what you call me. News providers like CNN, and MSNBC do present facts a hell of a lot more than FAUX news altogether. Call it a double standard or whatever, it is what it is. Even the Daily Show has more viewers with a higher IQ than the fox news lemmings.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by saucygirl

I don't give a flying fuck what you call me. News providers like CNN, and MSNBC do present facts a hell of a lot more than FAUX news altogether. Call it a double standard or whatever, it is what it is. Even the Daily Show has more viewers with a higher IQ than the fox news lemmings.

OMG, are you that dense?
all media is liberal except Fox and it shows on all channels, if you only watch channels other than Fox, then you're ignorant to the truth, you have to get both sides

[kane]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

OMG, are you that dense?
all media is liberal except Fox and it shows on all channels, if you only watch channels other than Fox, then you're ignorant to the truth, you have to get both sides

Actually CNN over the lat 6-9 months has made a pretty conscious effort to be more in the middle. The got rid of Lou Dobbs and they now try to do more straight reporting. The funny thing is ever since they have done this their ratings have plummeted. I think it goes to show that people want their news with a slant of some sort.

[CosmicTang]

Originally Posted by kane

Actually CNN over the lat 6-9 months has made a pretty conscious effort to be more in the middle. The got rid of Lou Dobbs and they now try to do more straight reporting. The funny thing is ever since they have done this their ratings have plummeted. I think it goes to show that people want their news with a slant of some sort.

What they want is less straight reporting and more entertainment. Having O'Reilly, Beck, Maddow and Olbermann firing away at each other is more spectacle than AC reporting the news.

[BFT3K]

Originally Posted by kane

Actually CNN over the lat 6-9 months has made a pretty conscious effort to be more in the middle. The got rid of Lou Dobbs and they now try to do more straight reporting. The funny thing is ever since they have done this their ratings have plummeted. I think it goes to show that people want their news with a slant of some sort.

Unfortunately the extremes get the ratings.

I agree that most people DO want reporting that slants towards their own personal views.

Having said that, it is still impossible to find the biased equivalent to Fox Noise.

MSNBC definitely offers a few editorial programs, with an admittedly liberal slant, but Fox is lying and bashing 24/7.

[BFT3K]

Originally Posted by CosmicTang

What they want is less straight reporting and more entertainment. Having O'Reilly, Beck, Maddow and Olbermann firing away at each other is more spectacle than AC reporting the news.

Maddow's investigative research team is actually quite amazing. I know the righties hate her, but her reports are often quite eye-opening.

[saucygirl]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

OMG, are you that dense?
all media is liberal except Fox and it shows on all channels, if you only watch channels other than Fox, then you're ignorant to the truth, you have to get both sides

Is that because FOX news told you so??? LMAO You probably think math and reality has a liberal bias as well.

[The Demon]

Originally Posted by saucygirl

I don't give a flying fuck what you call me. News providers like CNN, and MSNBC do present facts a hell of a lot more than FAUX news altogether. Call it a double standard or whatever, it is what it is. Even the Daily Show has more viewers with a higher IQ than the fox news lemmings.

Can't imagine how many baseless assertions that post represented. I'm trying to find a truth in there or anything that shows you live in reality but I just can't... What you're essentially saying is "fine, you have proof but I don't care what you think because I'm going to continue to believe what I believe so I can sleep at night." Move along.

[The Demon]

Originally Posted by saucygirl

Is that because FOX news told you so??? LMAO You probably think math and reality has a liberal bias as well.

Right, so you've just proven that you're both subjective and stupid.

MSNBC definitely offers a few editorial programs, with an admittedly liberal slant, but Fox is lying and bashing 24/7

And BFT3K continues his reputation as one of the dumbest human beings in existence.

Here, I'll reverse BFT3K's post and watch him back peddle.

Fox News definitely offers a few editorial programs with an admittedly conservative slant, but MSNBC is lying and bashing 24/7. HAHAHAHA.. Moron

[mpahlca]

Originally Posted by Daddy Big Nuts

I guess that you don't remember when Ross Perot was winning in the polls do you? He didn't get elected because he didn't want to be ...he was trying to prove a point.

Are you kidding me? dude wanted it bad he didnt prove a point he wasted money trying to be president. Fucking prove a point wtf? Great point you lost a shit load of money and didnt do shit all good move point proven. As for Ron Paul vote for him I hope to god he gets elected. I am rich so republicans and douches like him make me richer. COME ON RON PAUL YOU ROCK BEATCH

[bbm]

Obama rule I love this black dude

[saucygirl]

Originally Posted by the demon

right, so you've just proven that you're both subjective and stupid.


And bft3k continues his reputation as one of the dumbest human beings in existence.

Here, i'll reverse bft3k's post and watch him back peddle.

Fox news definitely offers a few editorial programs with an admittedly conservative slant, but msnbc is lying and bashing 24/7. Hahahaha.. Moron

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[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by saucygirl

Is that because FOX news told you so??? LMAO You probably think math and reality has a liberal bias as well.

News media have historically always been liberal, it's a known fact.
Then came Rush Limbaugh and Fox news. It was something people wanted because Oreilly has been number one for how many years?

WTF are you talking about with Math and Reality? Have your meds kicked in yet?

[The Demon]

You are talking to yet another moron.

[Vendzilla]

wait, I know what you're talking about now, the REALITY of the MATH that FOX has the TOP 13 CABLE NEWS SHOWS, MSNBC comes in 14th!

Oreilly's repeat comes in before any other cable news show, gotta suck for them

[TheDoc]

Fox is an entertainment network...entertainment rules! 100's of websites focus, point out, and prove its lies and slants so much that they can't keep with it, daily - no real news network has this issue - period, other than fox.

Anyone that thinks Fox news is an actual news source - is a fucking sheep.

[saucygirl]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

wait, I know what you're talking about now, the REALITY of the MATH that FOX has the TOP 13 CABLE NEWS SHOWS, MSNBC comes in 14th!

Oreilly's repeat comes in before any other cable news show, gotta suck for them

Ahhh, clearly you're a FAUX News lover, that's easy to see...BTW, shouldn't you be busy fucking yourself with your Ronald Reagan dildo whilst playing Sarah Palin speeches?

[BFT3K]

Originally Posted by saucygirl

Is that because FOX news told you so??? LMAO You probably think math and reality has a liberal bias as well.

It's not you saucygirl - they are either "playing" dumb to your easily understandable analogy, or they are not playing at all, which is even worse.

Either way, now that super geniuses like the demon have chimed in, might as well just call it a day. No sense debating that far below your IQ.

[Quentin]

Damn.... I was hoping this thread was about a new fight added to UFC 113.

[The Demon]

I gotta put saucy in the same IQ bracket as bft3k which is downright embarrassing. I love the liberal argument though. You embarrass them with facts and logic and they tell you that you love fox news. Hilarious

[BFT3K]

Originally Posted by The Demon

I gotta put saucy in the same IQ bracket as bft3k which is downright embarrassing. I love the liberal argument though. You embarrass them with facts and logic and they tell you that you love fox news. Hilarious

The only "fact" that you ever provide is the "fact" that you are a retarded troll.

[BestXXXPorn]

There are very few news sources now that are unbiased... they're all pushing one agenda or another... I don't care if it's left, right, or upside down, they're all chopping and editing content to suit their own needs.

I can't stand the mainstream media... Since this is a Ron Paul post I'll also say that he was cut out of virtually every airing of the presidential debates. Just completely cut out. Whether you're a Ron Paul supporter or not, you've gotta admit, that's fucked up. BUT that's the mainstream media for you!

[CosmicTang]

Originally Posted by BFT3K

Maddow's investigative research team is actually quite amazing. I know the righties hate her, but her reports are often quite eye-opening.

I like her actually. She's bright and remains civil. She's definitely slanted left of course. I'm sure her research is competent, but like anyone else on those channels they spin it to conform to their ideology. I've seen people push back in interviews with her and she tries to bend them to her POV even though theirs is completely valid. I distinctly remember this happening with Chris Matthews who disagreed with her on something and wouldn't cave to her "but don't you think" tacks.

I think the media, in my lifetime anyway, has historically had a liberal slant to it. Fox News I think is a result of business rather than politics. Murdoch saw an opportunity to provide a product to a segment of the population that was being under served. There were several liberal networks already. Launching another was just going to slice the same pie up into smaller pieces. But a conservative network, well, there weren't any. He had that entire population to himself. Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly are paid entertainers. They get on the air and play a part, period (I think Olbermann does too). Beck makes what, $33 million a year? For that kind of cheddar I'd act slightly to the right of Atilla the Hun too. That's what it is, an act. He's the Howard Stern of political pundits.

Perot was leading by a sizeable margin the summer before the '92 election. He dropped out and jumped back in which is what cost him. There was a lot of speculation about why he did that. I do recall there being a lot of animosity between him and the Bush family. Some thought he ran just to prevent a Bush reelection.

[The Demon]

It's getting too easy making bft3k look dumb. One has to wonder how he's been able to breathe on his own.

[Daddy Big Nuts]

Originally Posted by mpahlca

Are you kidding me? dude wanted it bad he didnt prove a point he wasted money trying to be president. Fucking prove a point wtf? Great point you lost a shit load of money and didnt do shit all good move point proven. As for Ron Paul vote for him I hope to god he gets elected. I am rich so republicans and douches like him make me richer. COME ON RON PAUL YOU ROCK BEATCH

Ok...you don't remember. I didn't think so.

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by BFT3K

Let's play Revisionist History, with your host - IllTestYourGirls!

What do you mean by this?

I guess you haven't read that Obama has bombed PAKISTAN more than Bush did

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by saucygirl

Ahhh, clearly you're a FAUX News lover, that's easy to see...BTW, shouldn't you be busy fucking yourself with your Ronald Reagan dildo whilst playing Sarah Palin speeches?

You clearly have no better arguement than the mis-spelling of a 3 letter word, Let the intelligent people debate and go back to dressing barbies

Originally Posted by TheDoc

Fox is an entertainment network...entertainment rules! 100's of websites focus, point out, and prove its lies and slants so much that they can't keep with it, daily - no real news network has this issue - period, other than fox.

Anyone that thinks Fox news is an actual news source - is a fucking sheep.

Best way for you to debate is to slander the other side of your arguement? come on, you can do better than that, can't you? Put out some substance and leave the fluffing to saucygirl

Originally Posted by BFT3K

It's not you saucygirl - they are either "playing" dumb to your easily understandable analogy, or they are not playing at all, which is even worse.

Either way, now that super geniuses like the demon have chimed in, might as well just call it a day. No sense debating that far below your IQ.

I think the statement about MATH leaning left put her in the 80% area,
See if I remember that class, mental age over chronilogical age= IQ
but maybe you don't see the demon being that high? He does bring up some good stuff. I like being more in the center, but you really can't attack the right now because, well, they don't have a say in anything, at least not yet! I have because of these postings on GFY seen some things that the President is doing right, I actually like what I hear about the nuke talks, I get what he's trying to do. I was part of that whole cold war thing and it scares the hell out of me, I know what one trident class submarine can do and no power on earth needs that much power.


I put down what the left is doing, and I get attacked for being right? LMAO

[The Demon]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

What do you mean by this?

I guess you haven't read that Obama has bombed PAKISTAN more than Bush did

Right Wing Propaganda!!

[The Demon]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

You clearly have no better arguement than the mis-spelling of a 3 letter word, Let the intelligent people debate and go back to dressing barbies



Best way for you to debate is to slander the other side of your arguement? come on, you can do better than that, can't you? Put out some substance and leave the fluffing to saucygirl



I think the statement about MATH leaning left put her in the 80% area,
See if I remember that class, mental age over chronilogical age= IQ
but maybe you don't see the demon being that high? He does bring up some good stuff. I like being more in the center, but you really can't attack the right now because, well, they don't have a say in anything, at least not yet! I have because of these postings on GFY seen some things that the President is doing right, I actually like what I hear about the nuke talks, I get what he's trying to do. I was part of that whole cold war thing and it scares the hell out of me, I know what one trident class submarine can do and no power on earth needs that much power.


I put down what the left is doing, and I get attacked for being right? LMAO

When you deal with morons(even by porn forum standards) like those two, you just have to notice the obvious pattern. They don't have any logical arguments, only emotional ones based on bullshit and their own skewed perceptions. All you have to do is introduce a logical argument and wait for them to call you "right wing nut job" or "fox news lover" or "Reagan's bitch", you get the point. That's when you know they're embarrassed to be who they are.

[saucygirl]

WTF do you know Vendzilla? You can't even spell ARGUMENT. It's argument not arguement dumbass. Now I know where all those misspelled teaparty signs came from.

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