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Old 05-04-2010, 10:24 AM   #1
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This oil spill is going to lead to the end of humanity as we know it.

They're never going to be able to cap this thing. It's under 5,000 feet of water and spewing 20,000 gallons of crude into the ocean every day.

Over the next few years, every ocean in the world is going to be covered with an oil slick. It's going to completely destroy all of the plankton in the world's oceans, which will lead of course to a mass die-off of every marine species in the world.

Take a moment to think of the consequences. Humanity is fucked.

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I'm an engineer with 25 years of experience. I've worked on some big projects with big machines. Maybe that's why this mess is so clear to me.

First, the BP platform was drilling for what they call deep oil. They go out where the ocean is about 5,000 feet deep and drill another 30,000 feet into the crust of the earth. This it right on the edge of what human technology can do. Well, this time they hit a pocket of oil at such high pressure that it burst all of their safety valves all the way up to the drilling rig and then caused the rig to explode and sink. Take a moment to grasp the import of that. The pressure behind this oil is so high that it destroyed the maximum effort of human science to contain it.

When the rig sank it flipped over and landed on top of the drill hole some 5,000 feet under the ocean.

Now they've got a hole in the ocean floor, 5,000 feet down with a wrecked oil drilling rig sitting on top of is spewing 200,000 barrels of oil a day into the ocean. Take a moment and consider that, will you!

First they have to get the oil rig off the hole to get at it in order to try to cap it. Do you know the level of effort it will take to move that wrecked oil rig, sitting under 5,000 feet of water? That operation alone would take years and hundreds of millions to accomplish. Then, how do you cap that hole in the muddy ocean floor? There just is no way. No way.

The only piece of human technology that might address this is a nuclear bomb. I'm not kidding. If they put a nuke down there in the right spot it might seal up the hole. Nothing short of that will work.

If we can't cap that hole that oil is going to destroy the oceans of the world. It only takes one quart of motor oil to make 250,000 gallons of ocean water toxic to wildlife. Are you starting to get the magnitude of this?
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And how does that lead to the end of humanity?
I know it sucks, it pisses me off like nothing before, but the end?
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And how does that lead to the end of humanity?
I know it sucks, it pisses me off like nothing before, but the end?
BP estimates that the oil reserve contains 30 billion barrels of oil.

Oil and water don't mix.

What's going to happen is that the billions of gallons of oil will form a very thin oil slick over the world's oceans and make it nearly impossible for life to flourish.

Remember, it only takes a couple drops of oil to wipe out the mosquito larvae in your swimming pool. Now imagine what will happen to the ocean when you dump tens of billions of gallons into the water.
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Nah I dont think it will. If it was that bad of a situation Obama would not have taken 10 days to promise that he will someday take action.
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Amazing how the oil companies while making their billions, never once thought about coming up with a plan if disaster should ever strike.

I guess it's make money now, worry about everything else later...
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Old 05-04-2010, 10:37 AM   #7
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Nah I dont think it will. If it was that bad of a situation Obama would not have taken 10 days to promise that he will someday take action.
Obama lied.
The oceans died.
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fucking obama! man, that guy. if only he had responded sooner..........
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90% of the neanderthals roaming this earth simply need to die off before we can even hope to save this planet
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are you in the 90% group or the 10%ers?
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wow. i didnt realize it was this big a problem. shit.
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Now imagine what will happen to the ocean when you dump tens of billions of gallons into the water.
We dont get those millons of annoying musquitos?
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Old 05-04-2010, 10:46 AM   #13
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push the old rig over and hook up a huge hose to the drilled hole in the ground to suck up the oil into something else... who knows..
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They're never going to be able to cap this thing. It's under 5,000 feet of water and spewing 20,000 gallons of crude into the ocean every day.
Aren't you off with your numbers? I thought it was 210,000 gallons a day.

Still, that's not going to end humanity.
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Old 05-04-2010, 10:48 AM   #15
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BP estimates that the oil reserve contains 30 billion barrels of oil.
You mean 30 million barrels. It will do some real damage in the gulf but it will certainly not destroy life on earth. Get a grip on yourself.
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You could get a very good start on saving the planet by killing yourself.
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Old 05-04-2010, 10:59 AM   #17
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The fucking assholes in Washington should of sent a damn nuke down there on day 1.
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i take my litle girl to park on the water and everywhere around us will be affected

we can sit out on this bench and watch the oil coat the shore black



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so fucking sad this area is all natural and protected refuge, then here comes BP drilling 50 miles away
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i was wondering if htey'd talk about using a nuke to fix it
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End of humanity? This sounds like like something that would be said so that later, when its only the fish, birds and other animals killed off, they can say, well, we thought it was going to be worse, thank goodness its just a bunch of fish and birds!
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I think BP is going to need a Bail Out that the tax payers will need to pay for.
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thats pretty fucked up. if someone comes up with a way to save the oil, they will be a rich man
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i think this right here discredits this guys quote

"The only piece of human technology that might address this is a nuclear bomb. I'm not kidding. If they put a nuke down there in the right spot it might seal up the hole. Nothing short of that will work."
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yea so anyways a little bit of actual research should quiet the whole "world is ending" panic. quiet down chicken little..

"President Obama was on-scene today getting a first-hand look at the spill, which is still leaking at a rate of approximately 5000 barrels (210,000 gallons) per day from three damaged sections of piping on the sea floor. Engineers are working to inject dispersants at the oil?s source - 5000? below the surface. If successful, it could reduce or prevent an oil plume from forming at the surface. Drilling of a relief or cut-off well started today, but it will take several months to stop the flow. Work also continues on a collection dome at the sea floor; this technique has never been tried at 5000?."

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I've been saying a nuke would fix this since it happened. I'm glad this clearly educated gentleman agrees with me.
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i take my litle girl to park on the water and everywhere around us will be affected

we can sit out on this bench and watch the oil coat the shore black



http://ch33rs.com/pics/JeanLafitte-2007/image52.htm

so fucking sad this area is all natural and protected refuge, then here comes BP drilling 50 miles away
where is this? just curious, looks nice
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I think BP is going to need a Bail Out that the tax payers will need to pay for.
HA HA, jokes on you... BP doesnt own the rig and therefore will not claim responsibility...

the company that owns the rig will just go bankrupt...

so, yes, in a way you are right... the taxpayers will pay to clean up the mess and BP will have another record 1/4....









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where is this? just curious, looks nice


where the road ends and the swamps/marsh/wetlands begin in a little town called Jean Lafitte. Where my family has been since before this was the US.

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They have already started to drill a relief well, so it will stop at some point... and this has happened before and the Oceans aren't covered in oil.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/03/us/03montara.html

"The Australian accident, known as the Montara spill, began Aug. 21 with a blowout of high-pressure oil similar to the one in the gulf. With the well spewing 17,000 to 85,000 gallons per day, precious weeks passed before the relief wells were started. When efforts got under way, the first four attempts — drilled on Oct. 6, 13, 17 and 24 — missed the original well.

A fifth attempt finally intersected the original on Nov. 1, and about 3,400 barrels of heavy mud were pumped through the relief well into the base of the original well. The spewing oil finally stopped Nov. 3 — more than 10 weeks after the original explosion."
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Any one got satellite or Ariel of this?? Where is it in the Gulf
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where the road ends and the swamps/marsh/wetlands begin in a little town called Jean Lafitte. Where my family has been since before this was the US.

http://www.ch33rs.com/pics/JeanLafitte-2007/

Where livin on the bayou and the water is way of life

looks great, hope the spill doesn't wreck it too bad. that area just can't get a break the last few years...
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BP estimates that the oil reserve contains 30 billion barrels of oil.

Oil and water don't mix.

What's going to happen is that the billions of gallons of oil will form a very thin oil slick over the world's oceans and make it nearly impossible for life to flourish.

Remember, it only takes a couple drops of oil to wipe out the mosquito larvae in your swimming pool. Now imagine what will happen to the ocean when you dump tens of billions of gallons into the water.
that will blush lots of ocean world
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HA HA, jokes on you... BP doesnt own the rig and therefore will not claim responsibility...

the company that owns the rig will just go bankrupt...

so, yes, in a way you are right... the taxpayers will pay to clean up the mess and BP will have another record 1/4....
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not really
the leaseholder is the responsible party, not the rig.
in this case the leaseholder is BP
also there is already a relief fund set up to cover these type incidents, everytime you buy gas a small percentage goes into this fund, but there could be an issue there since the fund has a cap of $100 million per incident, probably this cleanup will be more expensive to the prediction is that the cap will be challenged in court..
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not really
the leaseholder is the responsible party, not the rig.
in this case the leaseholder is BP
also there is already a relief fund set up to cover these type incidents, everytime you buy gas a small percentage goes into this fund, but there could be an issue there since the fund has a cap of $100 million per incident, probably this cleanup will be more expensive to the prediction is that the cap will be challenged in court..
interesting... i will have to look that up... i heard that BP will not be held responsible and that the company that owns the drilling platform will be...




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interesting... i will have to look that up... i heard that BP will not be held responsible and that the company that owns the drilling platform will be...




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so I guess their plan is to cover the hole with a dome.

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But it’s increasingly clear that the gulf spill will be the worst in U.S. history, exceeding even the Exxon-Valdez accident, which spewed 11 million gallons of oil into Alaska’s Prince William Sound in 1989.

British Petroleum, which owns the sunken oil rig, plans to lower massive containment domes over the three leaks located more than 5,000 feet beneath the ocean’s surface. Even if the unproven strategy works, it would take more than a week before the flow of the oil is stopped. Last year it took 10 weeks to plug a similar broken well off the Australian coast.
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i take my litle girl to park on the water and everywhere around us will be affected

we can sit out on this bench and watch the oil coat the shore black



http://ch33rs.com/pics/JeanLafitte-2007/image52.htm

so fucking sad this area is all natural and protected refuge, then here comes BP drilling 50 miles away
Westbanker ewww
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Old 05-04-2010, 01:16 PM   #44
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not really
the leaseholder is the responsible party, not the rig.
in this case the leaseholder is BP
also there is already a relief fund set up to cover these type incidents, everytime you buy gas a small percentage goes into this fund, but there could be an issue there since the fund has a cap of $100 million per incident, probably this cleanup will be more expensive to the prediction is that the cap will be challenged in court..

i stand corrected.. you are correct... BP is responsible... thats not what i heard initially, but in the end, you are right and i am wrong...

it doensnt happen often so revel in it my friend...

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So. I heard someone here saying that this could have been prevented if an emergency valve had been in place. A valve that is required in the rest of the world except for the united states. This valve costs $500,000, and was not in place because they didn't want to buy one. Now they are dumping millions into a cleanup.

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?? WTF is your problem? where you from? what you claimin? I dont live in lafitte. \X/
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come run that mouth across that water woadie, leave your ass for them gators in the swamp
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I hope they can fix this soon! If they can't stop the leaks anytime soon, the oceans will be thoroughly fucked. I have plans to sail around the world with a sailing boat. But by the time that I can afford this, the oceans will be probably completely dead.
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?? WTF is your problem? where you from? what you claimin? I dont live in lafitte. \X/
Jeez I was just jokin, like I have any room to talk I'm from St. Bernard, (chalmette, oil refinery central)
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you know how we roll LOL nina under the seat ready for them eastbankers
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