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Old 05-04-2010, 02:28 PM   #1
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Do Condoms Really Matter?

I was listening to some NPR interview today while running around doing errands and they were talking about the mandatory condom laws they are trying to pass.... as well as the arguments for and against it.

I do not watch mainstream porn. That I do watch is all female. So my question is for those who actually shoot/watch/buy this stuff.

How big of a difference does it make? Hirsch said it was around 20%.
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If I see condoms in content I won't use it in sponsor samples for users and I don't personally watch it either...

The whole thing is fucking BS the adult industry in the US as a whole is infinitely more careful than the average lay person off the street...
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I don't like using condoms in my personal life and I don't like doing scenes with condoms on.

Going to high school within the last 10 years we had a few "sex-ed" classes, although they were geared more towards scaring us away from having sex than actually educating us about it.

It was almost like that movie Mean Girls where the Sex-ed teacher basically said if you have sex you'll get an STD and die.

Then they started in about the whole "It feels the same while using a condom" and my girlfriend and I looked at each other like ... seriously?

I think in porn, people are watching a fantasy, they want to see people fucking. They want to see cock going into pussy. They don't want to see condoms, they don't want to see whatever the hell the female condoms are called. They get enough of that shit in their own lives and who wants to pay 30 bucks a month to be reminded of what they have in the next room?

It's the same thing as going to strip clubs. Old guys don't want to see a bunch of 60 year old strippers (it happens though). They want to see cute, young, half-nekkid titties everywhere.

I'm totally against condoms in porn. Makes me feel like I'm watching a bunch of people who aren't comfortable with each other.
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A condom is a killjoy for da Fletch.

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well imagine if they made foot fetishists wear those food serving latex gloves and not actually touch the feet. same thing.
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While I don't really understand it, I did learn quickly that naked cock is just as important for guys to see in porn as naked tits or female ass.
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Little known fact though is that condoms can be digitally removed in post. So I dont see the problem with it at all.
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Ok well i dont know how to do that and I wont pay someone else to do it. Whack! Just get std tested....

I don't use condoms regularly in my personal life either, just get tested regularly and make sure your partner does this as well and is on birth control. Ive never had a problem.... on the other hand my buddy will not do it without a rubber and he already got a girl pregnant and caught some std, i would guess syphilis or something you go on meds for.

I think knowing your partner is the most important.
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I can say this .... while I too don't like seeing condoms, in the Amateur world most use condoms because they are not "pros" and people don't do AIMS testing. My wife is doing her first AIMS testing shoot in couple weeks are we are excited.

But in the Amateur world when you are shooting with fans and guys that your meeting on Fling/AFF etc. they don't do AIMS testing and if fucking is involved a condom is used for safety. With that said she uses the "translucent" ones which is a compromise.

The reason I think guys don't like seeing condoms is because it kills the fantasy of the guy thinking he could slide his naked cock into the model he is watching.

I too listened to the NPR report.
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Little known fact though is that condoms can be digitally removed in post. So I dont see the problem with it at all.
??? You dont see the problem because you dont have to pay for it. Do you know how much time and money it would cost to remove a condom in post? You have to go frame by frame and i shoot 60 frames per second. I can be done, but it will cost.



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If guys are forced to use condoms for sex scenes, most will also have to resort to Caver-ject (the needle) too.




Condoms=porn failures on a massive scale.
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Little known fact though is that condoms can be digitally removed in post. So I dont see the problem with it at all.
Then that's fake shit. if I want to see fake privates I'll watch anime.
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in the first place i don't like using condoms!!
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I don't like to SEE condoms in porn, but when I think porn WITHOUT condoms is gross (personally, if I were a pornstar) so it's kind of a catch 22.
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BF I shoot all my own Mister Peabody stuff with condoms, every single one, but only for the actual sex. Here are the reasons:

1. I couldn't afford AIMS tests when I began. I couldn't afford jack shit when I started. I even used free condoms.
2. The 'Mister Peabody story" is about one average fat fuck little dicky dude who somehow gets laid like crazy. Surfers don't know I'm now a "pro"! So they read my story, see the shitty vids, see me (and especially the girl) fumbling to slip a condom on little Mister Peabody, and they buy, buy, buy.
3. It's only for the fucking; many of my clips are blowjobs-only so no condom needed.

So my story works but if this were 'mainstream' porn, or even 'normal porn sex' with seven inch cocks and shot Jay-Rock style it would look ridiculous. Well, it looks ridiculous now but at least it sells who gives a flying diddly.

There ARE ways to 'hide the condom' BTW: get a long dick, let him grow just a touch of pubes, get a very, very sheer condom, stretch it tight over that monster donkey never show him taking the dick out, quick cut to cumshot (after condom is removed) and you almost get away with it. Almost.
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Sure, if you don't mind paying 10 000$ per scene in post work... no problem.
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I never watch condom sex, don't matter how hot the girl is.... well if shes super hot I just watch the BJ part, skip the sex and go to the facial. Ha and they could have paid the girl significantly less for just a BJ shoot most likely...
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Condoms in porn is stupid, companies who employ a condom policy is pretty much a kiss of death, one of the reasons why Vivid went downhill. I remember one of their directors was a strong advocate of it. Chi Chi if I am not mistaken?
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I can say this .... while I too don't like seeing condoms, in the Amateur world most use condoms because they are not "pros" and people don't do AIMS testing. My wife is doing her first AIMS testing shoot in couple weeks are we are excited.

But in the Amateur world when you are shooting with fans and guys that your meeting on Fling/AFF etc. they don't do AIMS testing and if fucking is involved a condom is used for safety. With that said she uses the "translucent" ones which is a compromise.
AIM testing does not mean you're wife is not going to get herpes, HPV, HIV or any other disease. It just reduces the risk, not eliminate it.

What are you going to do when the AIM tested guy who fucks her on set just took a squirt up his ass from another guy or a shemale a few nights before and caught HIV?

Don't be brainwashed. The porn industry is not totally safe. You are putting your WIFE at risk. At the very least she WILL catch herpes and HPV. That much is guaranteed.
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Condoms are ruining the scenes. Porn is not about using condoms. Instead if they have some street hookers collected for that movie, that would be understandable
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I was listening to some NPR interview today while running around doing errands and they were talking about the mandatory condom laws they are trying to pass.... as well as the arguments for and against it.

I do not watch mainstream porn. That I do watch is all female. So my question is for those who actually shoot/watch/buy this stuff.

How big of a difference does it make? Hirsch said it was around 20%.
Condoms should be mandatory in Africa and Thailand.
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The whole thing is fucking BS the adult industry in the US as a whole is infinitely more careful than the average lay person off the street...
Thats an important point. YOU have to CARE about it, to be healthy.
And if not proven, I would never stick my dick in a maybe HIV wigwagging pussy!
Never! I had one or two times sex without condom with girls you can meet at the next corner of a street... thats no good feeling afterwards.

But what you do in private is one thing, on the set it's another.

No test = condoms, tested = leave it away

But if condoms are used, I would prefer for porn movies the light red ones... they are looking more... natural fun to me.

In personal, I had problems to use them, but with one or two brands I can get happy :-)
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I never more watch porn to masturbate but when I were doing it I've never masturbated to the content with condom use... really, it just didn't worked for me.
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Old 05-05-2010, 11:23 AM   #46
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AIM testing does not mean you're wife is not going to get herpes, HPV, HIV or any other disease. It just reduces the risk, not eliminate it.

What are you going to do when the AIM tested guy who fucks her on set just took a squirt up his ass from another guy or a shemale a few nights before and caught HIV?

Don't be brainwashed. The porn industry is not totally safe. You are putting your WIFE at risk. At the very least she WILL catch herpes and HPV. That much is guaranteed.
A) Most women already have HPV before age 25. Also there is a vacinne for it so if she doesn't have HPV yet she can get vacinated.

B) as far as herpes condoms are hardly 100% protection against that. Not even close.
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Old 05-05-2010, 11:27 AM   #47
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Condoms should be mandatory in Africa and Thailand.
Probably a true dat in the making.
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Old 05-05-2010, 11:35 AM   #48
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BF I shoot all my own Mister Peabody stuff with condoms, every single one, but only for the actual sex. Here are the reasons:

1. I couldn't afford AIMS tests when I began. I couldn't afford jack shit when I started. I even used free condoms.
2. The 'Mister Peabody story" is about one average fat fuck little dicky dude who somehow gets laid like crazy. Surfers don't know I'm now a "pro"! So they read my story, see the shitty vids, see me (and especially the girl) fumbling to slip a condom on little Mister Peabody, and they buy, buy, buy.
3. It's only for the fucking; many of my clips are blowjobs-only so no condom needed.

So my story works but if this were 'mainstream' porn, or even 'normal porn sex' with seven inch cocks and shot Jay-Rock style it would look ridiculous. Well, it looks ridiculous now but at least it sells who gives a flying diddly.

There ARE ways to 'hide the condom' BTW: get a long dick, let him grow just a touch of pubes, get a very, very sheer condom, stretch it tight over that monster donkey never show him taking the dick out, quick cut to cumshot (after condom is removed) and you almost get away with it. Almost.
Nice post.

Keep in mind all BJs will be condom and no more facials or POP shots on women. The condom thing is to prevent the transmission of fluids. Wearing a condom then pulling it off to bust on her face, chest or stomach, wont be allowed and kind of defeats the purpose of using condoms.



Hey Barefootsie, that means no POP SHOTS on feet either. Because that would be transmission of bodily fluids.
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Old 05-05-2010, 12:09 PM   #49
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the condom rule they are trying to get made into law includes any bodily fluid transmission between models, so no oral sex either.. (there are bodily fluids in a vagina so no girl/girl either oral etc)
based on all those factors i think this type "safe porn" will not make it.
had it just been condom for penetration i think everyone could have accepted at least for the "feature" type porn..(like vivid is already doing).
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