honest question re: 9/11 conspiracy theories.

[dyna mo]

so what?

let's assume you are right and the government did it, now what?

pretty much everyone already knows the government is fucked and has their own agenda and ain't here for me, or you. it doesn't take rocket appliances to see that.

so anyone with 2+ brain cells knows this already, we don't need to agree with you about 9/11 or the lunar landingS to know that.

so seriously, assume everyone agrees with you that the gov did it, what would be different from what we already can see and know as fact?

[seeandsee]

show me the pentagon hit vids? why are they hide it ?!?

[Coup]

Armed rebellion would be the only correct action.



(lol at the thought of the truthers actually climbing out of their parents basements to do something other than whine on the internet)

[Adam X]

too many bullshit stories.. all WTC buildings free-falling... the nano-thermite and 2500degree+ temps at ground zero.. missiles spotted hitting the pentagon.. so much proof.. tons of scientists and politicians avoiding investigators.. I mean what more do people want?

Mo to answer your question.. It needs to be spelled out and taken to all media outlets again.. somehow getting this to the public in big fashion.. the difference sits with the media coverage..we all know the media injects/brainwashes people with info... so let everyone digest the truth and serve justice to all involved.. all over again.. I just think the American people can't swallow the idea the govt was in on it..

[mayabong]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

so what?

let's assume you are right and the government did it, now what?

pretty much everyone already knows the government is fucked and has their own agenda and ain't here for me, or you. it doesn't take rocket appliances to see that.

so anyone with 2+ brain cells knows this already, we don't need to agree with you about 9/11 or the lunar landingS to know that.

so seriously, assume everyone agrees with you that the gov did it, what would be different from what we already can see and know as fact?

Simple, just spread the information. America has been hijacked by israel using AIPAC, the FED, and a finely tuned media. People say building 7 was the smoking gun on 9/11, but I think it was the israeli's that were arrested that day dressed like arabs. You said yourself that you believe the mossad is involved.

Alan Sabrosky (director of studies at the army war college) said himself that the top level military knows that israel was the driving force behind this. He also said that the military hasn't been bought like the politicians. The military is their power, and the last thing they want is an informed military. I know 4 people overseas who totally believe 9/11 was an inside job and they told me that alot of soldiers over there are waking up to this. They feel stuck because they signed up to kill bin laden.

So yes that is my answer, make this information available to the military. I think an armed revolt is the worst possible thing that can be done.

[PR_Glen]

all crazy theories aside, if you are well aware that your government is harming you and your people it is your duty as a citizen to protect yourself from that. That is pretty much the whole idea of what the american constitution is all about is it not? If you choose to do nothing in such circumstances what kind of person does that make you in the end? What does that say about your respect for what your country was built upon or fought for in past wars that have given you peace and freedoms in your life so far?

I'm not saying it has even come close to that point at all i'm just saying if it were to ever come to that ;)

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Adam X

Mo to answer your question.. It needs to be spelled out and taken to all media outlets again.. somehow getting this to the public in big fashion.. the difference sits with the media coverage..we all know the media injects/brainwashes people with info... so let everyone digest the truth and serve justice to all involved.. all over again.. I just think the American people can't swallow the idea the govt was in on it..

Originally Posted by mayabong

Simple, just spread the information. You said yourself that you believe the mossad is involved.

as mentioned, pretty much every american knows the government is fucking them in the ass atm, i don't see the need to get everyone to agree with the truthers, what difference does that make in light of everything? also, i said the mossad could of been behind it, not that i believe they were, that's too high level for me to discern.

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

all crazy theories aside, if you are well aware that your government is harming you and your people it is your duty as a citizen to protect yourself from that. That is pretty much the whole idea of what the american constitution is all about is it not? If you choose to do nothing in such circumstances what kind of person does that make you in the end? What does that say about your respect for what your country was built upon or fought for in past wars that have given you peace and freedoms in your life so far?

I'm not saying it has even come close to that point at all i'm just saying if it were to ever come to that ;)

i agree wholeheartedly but am unsure how this goes toward the topic, could you rephrase please?

[PR_Glen]

I read your first post as kind of a tongue in cheek that IF it were proven that people would do nothing about it.

did i misread?

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

I read your first post as kind of a tongue in cheek that IF it were proven that people would do nothing about it.

did i misread?

well, i think you are prolly right in that. i didn't realize i had done that but that is my sort of humor. lolz.

but i did mean the question, it just seems to me that the conspiracy folks want people to agree with them more than anything else. or at least that is my observation based on the fact that most everyone knows we are getting royally screwed by most all governments.

[Amputate Your Head]

There's no question it was a false flag.

What are we going to do about it is the question. I don't have the answer to that, and there's only one way to find out. Get the truth out for everyone to see. Not fringe channels that only some people watch.... but on the nightly freakin' news.

[digitman]

people need to show more evidence to back up their views. otherwise the information is worthless

[mayabong]

Originally Posted by digitman

people need to show more evidence to back up their views. otherwise the information is worthless

There is a huge amount of evidence. Studies which thermite was found, hijackers found alive, pockets of 2000 molten metal under the rubble for 6 weeks, israeli's dressed like arabs with explosives caught and released back to israel what more evidence do you want? The evidence is all there, its the censoring of the outlets that's the problem. I'd love to see the evidence that Bin Laden carried out 9/11 now thats hard to find.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by mayabong

The evidence is all there, its the censoring of the outlets that's the problem.

exactly my point, i would think you would focus your energy on creating awareness and change in regards to the media and not with getting people to agree that 9/11 was an inside job.

[Adam X]

yeah I'm shocked that with all the evidence out there, all the truthers out there, why the hell hasn't anyone been able to penetrate the media? How about suing the govt? What's missing here?

[PornoStar69]

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[mayabong]

Originally Posted by Adam X

yeah I'm shocked that with all the evidence out there, all the truthers out there, why the hell hasn't anyone been able to penetrate the media? How about suing the govt? What's missing here?

As far as i'm concerned the media is just zionist propaganda. They know exactly what is goin on. To think that they just havnt seen the light yet is crazy talk. To try to change the media is futile in my opinion. Very few companies control everything that comes out the TV and they have an agenda and thats to keep these wars going and the people distracted. There are lots of other forms of media to use and distribute, than to try to change the old dying form of media.

Remember wolf blitzer was a lobbiest for aipac and now he's one of the most trusted faces on mainstream news.

[LoveSandra]

I'm shocked..

[onwebcam]

The media is owned by the same companies who profit from the wars and agression and yes even the "statutes"... Most people don't pay attention to the fact that when a "statute" gets passed certain companies will profit from this.. Prior knowledge to this gets you in the door first. It's even "lawful" for members of Congress to do this. It's a fact. When planning everything back in the early 1900's primarily around the passing of the Federal Reserve act. Using the freely printed money they bought up the major newpapers and such and have done so since. So in addition to owning and controling the government they own and control the media. Glenn Beck and all the others included.. This is why you won;t see it on your nightly news. Only when they decide to let you see it there will you.

As far as the OP the point is to get people to accept the fact that they are being lied to so they start to question EVERYTHING that is being said and hopefully begin to see through the lies and deception. And ofcourse turn them into this guy

[fatfoo]

I just think that if there is a secret - don't try to figure it out - it is a secret, anyway - you will know about it.

[StickyGreen]

How bout we start with demanding that our troops be brought home? They are fighting a fraudulent war on "terror" that was based on a damn lie. But no, people just sit back and "support our troops" as if "keeping us safe and free" is what they're actually doing in the Middle East... lmao...

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by StickyGreen

How bout we start with demanding that our troops be brought home? They are fighting a fraudulent war on "terror" that was based on a damn lie. But no, people just sit back and "support our troops" as if "keeping us safe and free" is what they're actually doing in the Middle East... lmao...

i agree with you, stickygreen. that would be a good place for conspiracy theorist to focus their energy.

[StickyGreen]

Operation Northwoods, or Northwoods, was a false-flag plan that originated within the United States government in 1962. The plan called for Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) or other operatives to commit genuine acts of terrorism in U.S. cities and elsewhere. These acts of terrorism were to be blamed on Cuba in order to create public support for a war against that nation, which had recently become communist under Fidel Castro. One part of the Operation Northwoods plan was to "develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington."

Operation Northwoods included proposals for hijackings and bombings followed by the introduction of phony evidence that would implicate the Cuban government. The plan stated:

"The desired resultant from the execution of this plan would be to place the United States in the apparent position of suffering defensible grievances from a rash and irresponsible government of Cuba and to develop an international image of a Cuban threat to peace in the Western Hemisphere."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

Most people have never even heard of Operation Northwoods, but now that you know that it is real, is it really that crazy and ridiculous to think that a false-flag actually did happen in 2001 under one of the shadiest administrations this country has ever seen?

[mayabong]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

i agree with you, stickygreen. that would be a good place for conspiracy theorist to focus their energy.

Who are you?

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by mayabong

Who are you?

i'm dyna mo!

[mayabong]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

i'm dyna mo!

Dynamo from the running man with arnold swartzenneger?

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Adam X

yeah I'm shocked that with all the evidence out there, all the truthers out there, why the hell hasn't anyone been able to penetrate the media? How about suing the govt? What's missing here?

One guess.

[mayabong]

Originally Posted by baddog

One guess.

You're an idiot

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by mayabong

Dynamo from the running man with arnold swartzenneger?

no, he died, remember.

[tiger]

Originally Posted by seeandsee

show me the pentagon hit vids? why are they hide it ?!?

I can't understand why they even released this footage. Regardless of your views on the whole thing, can anyone look at this and tell me that is actually or even comes close to resembling a commercial airliner flying 5 feet off the ground into the side of the Pentagon?

[L-Pink]

Here you go I cleaned it up for you. I'm hell with photoshop.





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[Minte]

Originally Posted by tiger

I can't understand why they even released this footage. Regardless of your views on the whole thing, can anyone look at this and tell me that is actually or even comes close to resembling a commercial airliner flying 5 feet off the ground into the side of the Pentagon?

Looks a lot like a 757

[Alky]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Here you go I cleaned it up for you. I'm hell with photoshop.





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i think this is in the video.... but the plane is going in reverse.

[mayabong]

Originally Posted by tiger

I can't understand why they even released this footage. Regardless of your views on the whole thing, can anyone look at this and tell me that is actually or even comes close to resembling a commercial airliner flying 5 feet off the ground into the side of the Pentagon?

What about this testimony? I thought it was interesting.

[mayabong]

[mayabong]

Chertoff gets pounded with 9/11 Questions on C-Span.

[theking]

All of the questions...all of the inferences...all of the speculation...all of the opinions...all of the accusations...does not constitute one single piece of evidence that the government was involved in 9/11 or any type of coverup of 9/11...end of story.

[mayabong]

Originally Posted by theking

All of the questions...all of the inferences...all of the speculation...all of the opinions...all of the accusations...does not constitute one single piece of evidence that the government was involved in 9/11 or any type of coverup of 9/11...end of story.

There is also no evidence of bin laden being linked, or he would be charged by the FBI.

[theking]

Originally Posted by mayabong

There is also no evidence of bin laden being linked, or he would be charged by the FBI.

Bin Laden is on video tape admitting it and his planner and executioner of the plan is in our custody and is reported to have...with pride...confessed. The FBI does not charge...it arrests...Federal Prosecutors place a charge or charges.

[mayabong]

Originally Posted by theking

Bin Laden is on video tape admitting it and his planner and executioner of the plan is in our custody and is reported to have...with pride...confessed. The FBI does not charge...it arrests...Federal Prosecutors place a charge or charges.

Yes he also denied it in his first couple videos. It wasn't till a tape supposedly found in a random house in afganistan had bin laden admitting to the attacks. Who found this tape? Do you just believe anything? Also keep in mind the Taliban offered to give bin laden to the US if they could furnish proof that he was behind it, of course they didn't do that.

Well any way you cut it, he is not wanted by the FBI in connection to 9/11, cause there is simply no proof. As far as that man confessing, america tortures people so that doesn't hold much water.

Also they will not have the trial for the mastermind in the US because, then they would have to prove that he was behind it, which is impossible.

[theking]

Originally Posted by mayabong

Yes he also denied it in his first couple videos. It wasn't till a tape supposedly found in a random house in afganistan had bin laden admitting to the attacks. Who found this tape? Do you just believe anything? Also keep in mind the Taliban offered to give bin laden to the US if they could furnish proof that he was behind it, of course they didn't do that.

Well any way you cut it, he is not wanted by the FBI in connection to 9/11, cause there is simply no proof. As far as that man confessing, america tortures people so that doesn't hold much water.

Also they will not have the trial for the mastermind in the US because, then they would have to prove that he was behind it, which is impossible.

The U.S. Government has a reward of 25 million dollars for Bin Laden...dead or alive...and the last I knew the FBI is a part of the Government. The "master mind" was going to be tried in New York...but heat was put on the Admin for that decision and even though New York has not been officially ruled out...they are supposedly looking into other venues but he may end up being tried by Military Tribunal.

[dyna mo]

well, more proof conspiracy theorists are simply in it to hear themselves talk and to get others to agree with them.

no can say i didn't make a reasonable attempt here to find out if there is anything else motivating them.

yet another classic deflection. it's too bad really because as long as we are all splintered into groups, we are not working together.

FACT: if there is an illuminati/nwo/bilderberg groupd behind things, the conspiracy guys are playing right into their hands. congrats.

[onwebcam]

So lets assume you suck dick.. But you don't.. But everybody has seen it.. And you are still denying it.. Do you suck or what?

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by theking

The U.S. Government has a reward of 25 million dollars for Bin Laden...dead or alive...and the last I knew the FBI is a part of the Government. The "master mind" was going to be tried in New York...but heat was put on the Admin for that decision and even though New York has not been officially ruled out...they are supposedly looking into other venues but he may end up being tried by Military Tribunal.

They should look at Bush's place.. Since they've been friends since they were kids and all.. The last place to look?

[onwebcam]

[onwebcam]

You'll find Osama about the same time you find out GWB likes to get his cock sucked by boys.. A picture says a thousand words..

[ottopottomouse]

Conspiracy theorists just want to think they know more than everybody else and usually recycle someone else's opinions with no added though of their own.

[theking]

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

Conspiracy theorists just want to think they know more than everybody else and usually recycle someone else's opinions with no added though of their own.

You nailed it.

[mayabong]

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

Conspiracy theorists just want to think they know more than everybody else and usually recycle someone else's opinions with no added though of their own.

I think you have it backwards. So called "conspiracy theorists" for the most part, look at multiple sources of information before forming an opinion. While average joe just accepts what the news' says and considers it truth and anyone that goes against that is a conspiracy theorist kook. A "conspiracy theorist" might say, "wow this "news" station just told me this, lets see who owns that station. Wow this station that is promoting war and fear of arabs is owned by the same company also builds weapons for the war" (general electric is just one example of this) (coincidence?)

Please don't even try to make people who actually research things for themselves look stupid. It makes you look even more ignorant. But your avatar is cute and I take it you're a woman, so I'll hold back a little.

[mayabong]

Originally Posted by theking

You nailed it.

Where do you get your news, the king?

[mayabong]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

well, more proof conspiracy theorists are simply in it to hear themselves talk and to get others to agree with them.

no can say i didn't make a reasonable attempt here to find out if there is anything else motivating them.

yet another classic deflection. it's too bad really because as long as we are all splintered into groups, we are not working together.

FACT: if there is an illuminati/nwo/bilderberg groupd behind things, the conspiracy guys are playing right into their hands. congrats.

Yeah as long as there are people like you, who put down and ridicule people that search for the truth, we will always be splintered.