Anyone Having Luck With Lia 19 Hardcore Scene? - GoFuckYourself.com

Robbie · 05-16-2010, 04:25 PM

Is anybody seeing some good sales promoting Lia 19's first hardcore fuck with Vivid Cash?
Just curious as I have pushed it to the best of my ability for the whole weekend without much luck so far. Just wondering how it's faring with others.

DigitalTheory · 05-16-2010, 04:28 PM

I find it a bit awkward, just not her style. To me one of those girls that should have not crossed over

tical · 05-16-2010, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DigitalTheory

I find it a bit awkward, just not her style. To me one of those girls that should have not crossed over

I have to agree with this comment

Robbie · 05-16-2010, 04:36 PM

I don't know enough about what she did before to comment about her style. I just always threw up the galleries from FTV of her. Didn't do a ton of sales with that either...just okay. But I've never made a fraction of sales on softcore that I do on hardcore so that's pretty normal for that.

But I was thinking from all the hype that she had a really big fan base and it would reflect in this new scene for sales.

Anyway, I'm just curious from some others who are promoting this if it is living up to the hype or if sales are okay or if it's like me with zero sales so far.

fuzebox · 05-16-2010, 04:37 PM

The galleries have no actual hardcore, that's frustrating... I wish we could use a real hardcore clip to promote with, even 20 seconds.

Mutt · 05-16-2010, 04:38 PM

i think her jump to hardcore came too late in her career as a nude model.

Robbie · 05-16-2010, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

i think her jump to hardcore came too late in her career as a nude model.

You may have hit it on the head.

EDIT: Just out of curiosity I looked up her site. It's been online since 2003
So yeah, 7 years of being 19 years old and not doing hardcore may have been a bit too long to wait. Imagine if she had done it in say 2006 0r 2007 before piracy and the economic collapse. I bet her fan base would have been there then.

Agent 488 · 05-16-2010, 04:44 PM

get a fucking allison angel hardcore set and make some $.

DigitalTheory · 05-16-2010, 04:49 PM

I dunno sorta like if karla spice ever did hardcore, I think she would loose what she has going for her right now.

Kellie · 05-16-2010, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DigitalTheory

I dunno sorta like if karla spice ever did hardcore, I think she would loose what she has going for her right now.

haha yeah no worries about that, she won't be going hardcore anytime soon LOL. I think the fanbase on softcore sites are somewhat different from the hardcore base. I know Karla for example, some of her members flipped when she went topless and a lot of them don't want her to go further. It's like they want her to stay in that "girlfriend" image they have. I'm sure Lia's fans are like that as well, and then of course you have those that will always support what the model wants to do. I think Lia looks great though, if hardcore is what she wants to do then good for her

Sly · 05-16-2010, 04:59 PM

I was curious about all of this the other day so I was checking out the Vivid website. I really think they need to make a specific page targeting Lia and really hype it up in order for affiliates to get good results. As it is, you go to the site and she just looks like another girl. For affiliates to make money from this I would think that you would need to presell it really hard.

DigitalTheory · 05-16-2010, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Kellie

haha yeah no worries about that, she won't be going hardcore anytime soon LOL. I think the fanbase on softcore sites are somewhat different from the hardcore base. I know Karla for example, some of her members flipped when she went topless and a lot of them don't want her to go further. It's like they want her to stay in that "girlfriend" image they have. I'm sure Lia's fans are like that as well, and then of course you have those that will always support what the model wants to do. I think Lia looks great though, if hardcore is what she wants to do then good for her

Exactly this

lol. I was hoping you would pop in and respond lol. I see her freeones thread still going on about her site and the direction and all this crap.

marcop · 05-16-2010, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Kellie

I know Karla for example, some of her members flipped when she went topless and a lot of them don't want her to go further. It's like they want her to stay in that "girlfriend" image they have.

These guys don't like to fuck their hot girlfriends? There's a name for guys like that... now what is it? It's on the tip of my tongue...

dyna mo · 05-16-2010, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by marcop

These guys don't like to fuck their hot girlfriends? There's a name for guys like that... now what is it? It's on the tip of my tongue...

no, they don't want to watch someone else fuck their girlfriend.

+ the best fantasy is created in the brain.

fris · 05-16-2010, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

The galleries have no actual hardcore, that's frustrating... I wish we could use a real hardcore clip to promote with, even 20 seconds.

download it off a torrent site and cut up some clips

xNetworx · 05-16-2010, 05:19 PM

LIA!!!! She rocks

marcop · 05-16-2010, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

no, they don't want to watch someone else fuck their girlfriend.

+ the best fantasy is created in the brain.

You're right... I didn't think of it like that. I guess I've been shooting porn too long.

Deej · 05-16-2010, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

get a fucking allison angel hardcore set and make some $.

Another head hitter!

That would be hoT!!!!!

kane · 05-16-2010, 05:40 PM

I think they should have done it like the Jordan Capri hardcore scene and made it seems like a "stolen" home video instead of her just becoming a hardcore pornstar.

Deej · 05-16-2010, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

I think they should have done it like the Jordan Capri hardcore scene and made it seems like a "stolen" home video instead of her just becoming a hardcore pornstar.

And how exactly do you plan on doing that with vivid?

Mutt · 05-16-2010, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Deej

And how exactly do you plan on doing that with vivid?

easy - VIVID could have done a celeb home video sex tape with Lia before announcing they had signed her as a VIVID girl. they would have shot it to look like a real homemade sex tape that an ex-boyfriend of Lia peddled to them.

that would have worked better i think.

Mutt · 05-16-2010, 05:52 PM

the real hardcore solo girl site fan doesn't want to see his dream girl getting fucked - there goes the fantasy he had about her. they'll all buy or join to see it when she does but after that they'll leave in droves.

Raven Riley was hardcore from the beginning. that's different.

marketsmart · 05-16-2010, 06:07 PM

i'm getting a lot of views of the video on my tube site.....

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Sly · 05-16-2010, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Deej

And how exactly do you plan on doing that with vivid?

Why not? They are releasing other sex tapes.

CIVMatt · 05-16-2010, 06:41 PM

As I said before they waited too long, Lia19 sex tape is about as interesting as glue drying

Lightning · 05-16-2010, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

The galleries have no actual hardcore, that's frustrating... I wish we could use a real hardcore clip to promote with, even 20 seconds.

Bingo, agreed..

BIGTYMER · 05-16-2010, 06:46 PM

I thought it was a good video.

RyuLion · 05-16-2010, 08:26 PM

You guys are insane..

Deej · 05-16-2010, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RyuLion

You guys are insane..

prank caller@!!!!

Robbie · 05-16-2010, 08:35 PM

So is anybody here promoting this other than me? I haven't heard anybody say if they are or not or what the results have been so far.

babymaker · 05-16-2010, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

So yeah, 7 years of being 19 years old .

Spunky · 05-16-2010, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

the real hardcore solo girl site fan doesn't want to see his dream girl getting fucked - there goes the fantasy he had about her. they'll all buy or join to see it when she does but after that they'll leave in droves.

Raven Riley was hardcore from the beginning. that's different.

Agreed 100%.Always liked Lia but it seems a little desperate for an aging woman.not that she's looking old,still very attractive but doing hardcore ruins the fantasy in a way.I guess you go where the money is to pay the bills

LiveDose · 05-16-2010, 09:49 PM

I agree, it's a timing issue.

XXXMovie4M · 05-16-2010, 10:42 PM

in the first place, who is stupid enough to name a site based on a girls age? unless they only expected her to last a year or if the 19 meant something unique like she has 19 nipples.

in my opinion i think it was a big mistake for her to go hardcore after being a solo girl for so long. she probably had a loyal following but now she's stuck between two worlds. how many hardcore girls have successfully switched to softcore?

she or someone managing her probably felt it would help her career and bring in sales but the bottom line is sales aren't going to increase much for any of us until the economy improves.

people are panicking from lack of sales and messing with stuff they shouldn't be messing with. if the site worked before the recession it will work when things recover, we just have to be more aggressive with marketing and wait it out.

LoveSandra · 05-16-2010, 11:06 PM

she is awesome

Deej · 05-16-2010, 11:38 PM

Well obviously I know nothing of video production

dyna mo · 05-16-2010, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by XXXMovie4M

in the first place, who is stupid enough to name a site based on a girls age? unless they only expected her to last a year or if the 19 meant something unique like she has 19 nipples.

in my opinion i think it was a big mistake for her to go hardcore after being a solo girl for so long. she probably had a loyal following but now she's stuck between two worlds. how many hardcore girls have successfully switched to softcore?

she or someone managing her probably felt it would help her career and bring in sales but the bottom line is sales aren't going to increase much for any of us until the economy improves.

people are panicking from lack of sales and messing with stuff they shouldn't be messing with. if the site worked before the recession it will work when things recover, we just have to be more aggressive with marketing and wait it out.

CarlosTheGaucho · 05-17-2010, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Kellie

haha yeah no worries about that, she won't be going hardcore anytime soon LOL. I think the fanbase on softcore sites are somewhat different from the hardcore base. I know Karla for example, some of her members flipped when she went topless and a lot of them don't want her to go further. It's like they want her to stay in that "girlfriend" image they have. I'm sure Lia's fans are like that as well, and then of course you have those that will always support what the model wants to do. I think Lia looks great though, if hardcore is what she wants to do then good for her

Funny but that's exactly my feelings,

Some girls you just want to keep as sexy girls next door that are cute, foxy, nice but not nasty, you just don't want to see them do triple anal with ebony Alabama snake swordsmen.

ottopottomouse · 05-17-2010, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

+ the best fantasy is created in the brain.

That.

Reality is never as good as what it could have been in your head. Same as the fish that got away was always >|-----^----|> rather than >|-^-|> and books being better than the films that are made from them.

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Originally Posted by Robbie

7 years of being 19 years old

I would have thought if she needed to move to hardcore for $$ she would have been better off creating a new separate image for that and not associating it with the Lia 19 name.

babebuns · 05-17-2010, 05:07 AM

the scene itself sucks ass

seeandsee · 05-17-2010, 05:19 AM

i like her doing hardcore, fuck the sales

Marcus Aurelius · 05-17-2010, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

But I was thinking from all the hype that she had a really big fan base

There was no hype. Actually, it was a move of desperation (go hardcore cause the girl isn't selling anymore).

The hype = GFY sigwhores posting "top notch" comments in a BRO thread.

CIVMatt · 05-17-2010, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by MDCQ

There was no hype. Actually, it was a move of desperation (go hardcore cause the girl isn't selling anymore).

The hype = GFY sigwhores posting "top notch" comments in a BRO thread.

nail=head right there

dyna mo · 05-17-2010, 07:22 AM

well, vivid pitched her as an "internet sensation" that's hype eh.

Kenny B! · 05-17-2010, 08:01 AM

The only people who will make anything off that type of scene are those with her ex-members email addresses, other then that I doubt anyone really cares that a nude model did hardcore.

Wizzo · 05-17-2010, 08:09 AM

I've always enjoyed hanging out with Lia over the years and don't blame her for signing with Vivid because I'm sure she's getting a nice paycheck regardless, but this is another clear example that the big studios are out of touch on how the internet market works.

Roald · 05-17-2010, 08:12 AM

http://www.freeones.com/html/l_links...ge&period=year

She def. went up in rank over it but sofar sales are so so

fuzebox · 05-17-2010, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by fris

download it off a torrent site and cut up some clips

I'm not going to use content that hasn't been approved.

JP-pornshooter · 05-17-2010, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

easy - VIVID could have done a celeb home video sex tape with Lia before announcing they had signed her as a VIVID girl. they would have shot it to look like a real homemade sex tape that an ex-boyfriend of Lia peddled to them.

that would have worked better i think.

seems pretty simple, but that would require people to think outside the box.

kristin · 05-17-2010, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DigitalTheory

I find it a bit awkward, just not her style. To me one of those girls that should have not crossed over

I agree ... I liked her without taking dick.

05-16-2010, 04:25 PM	#1
Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,959	Anyone Having Luck With Lia 19 Hardcore Scene? Is anybody seeing some good sales promoting Lia 19's first hardcore fuck with Vivid Cash? Just curious as I have pushed it to the best of my ability for the whole weekend without much luck so far. Just wondering how it's faring with others. __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com

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Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,959	I don't know enough about what she did before to comment about her style. I just always threw up the galleries from FTV of her. Didn't do a ton of sales with that either...just okay. But I've never made a fraction of sales on softcore that I do on hardcore so that's pretty normal for that. But I was thinking from all the hype that she had a really big fan base and it would reflect in this new scene for sales. Anyway, I'm just curious from some others who are promoting this if it is living up to the hype or if sales are okay or if it's like me with zero sales so far. __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com

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Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	i think her jump to hardcore came too late in her career as a nude model. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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Sly Let's do some business! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 31,294	I was curious about all of this the other day so I was checking out the Vivid website. I really think they need to make a specific page targeting Lia and really hype it up in order for affiliates to get good results. As it is, you go to the site and she just looks like another girl. For affiliates to make money from this I would think that you would need to presell it really hard. __________________ Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted Windows VPS now available - just $50/mo Wanted: CCBill pay sites for sale

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Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	the real hardcore solo girl site fan doesn't want to see his dream girl getting fucked - there goes the fantasy he had about her. they'll all buy or join to see it when she does but after that they'll leave in droves. Raven Riley was hardcore from the beginning. that's different. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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DigitalTheory ^-^ Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: SacTown Posts: 1,055	I find it a bit awkward, just not her style. To me one of those girls that should have not crossed over

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fuzebox making it rain Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 22,022	The galleries have no actual hardcore, that's frustrating... I wish we could use a real hardcore clip to promote with, even 20 seconds.

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Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	get a fucking allison angel hardcore set and make some $.

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DigitalTheory ^-^ Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: SacTown Posts: 1,055	I dunno sorta like if karla spice ever did hardcore, I think she would loose what she has going for her right now.

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kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	I think they should have done it like the Jordan Capri hardcore scene and made it seems like a "stolen" home video instead of her just becoming a hardcore pornstar.

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Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,959	So is anybody here promoting this other than me? I haven't heard anybody say if they are or not or what the results have been so far. __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com

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XXXMovie4M Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hell Posts: 359	in the first place, who is stupid enough to name a site based on a girls age? unless they only expected her to last a year or if the 19 meant something unique like she has 19 nipples. in my opinion i think it was a big mistake for her to go hardcore after being a solo girl for so long. she probably had a loyal following but now she's stuck between two worlds. how many hardcore girls have successfully switched to softcore? she or someone managing her probably felt it would help her career and bring in sales but the bottom line is sales aren't going to increase much for any of us until the economy improves. people are panicking from lack of sales and messing with stuff they shouldn't be messing with. if the site worked before the recession it will work when things recover, we just have to be more aggressive with marketing and wait it out.

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dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 63,996	well, vivid pitched her as an "internet sensation" that's hype eh.

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