Hosting quote wanted, 50 IPs in different C blocks

[Thomas007]

It looks like I have burned my fingers on a hosting company which promised the sky and delivered nothing. Now I need a replacement for them.
Their support is a joke, it turns out their main support can't support their VPS products.
It relies on one person.

Are there still any hosting companies reading this forum?

I would like a quote on a dedicated server or a VDS with 50 IPs in DIFFERENT C blocks.

I need minimum 100GB storage in a RAID 1 setup.
1 GB RAM.
1 CPU is plenty, does not need to be the newest.
Full management.
No backup of user data, we take care of that.

No resellers please, I only want a quote from companies which owns the infrastructure and have dedicated support personal.
No one man shows or mickey mouse operations.

10Mbits or equal GB included. Please inform about overage pricing.
The budget for the server is $175 / month.

No setup fees, and I want to be able to cancel the server with one month warning.

When you send the quote, please inform about:
- which A-B IP ranges you will place the IPs in.
- staff count in support, and how I contact them.
- Inform about your delivery time. I need PHP 5.2.13, Zend Optimizer, Apache 2.2.15 and Mysql 5.xx on it.


US based hosting is preferred, but I'm willing to consider other locations.
The 50 IPs must be assigned to the box on delivery, I don't want to apply for them.


Please EMAIL your quote to [email protected]

Thank you.

[TidalWave]

We can do this on a group of specialized servers we reserve in a special section of our network/datacenter for "SEO" type servers.
We offer it over 10 C-Classes, you would have 5 IP's from each C-Class.

If this is acceptable feel free to contact us and let us know and we'll get back to you with the details to the rest of your questions.

[email protected]

Thanks

[Barefootsies]

At least you know what you need and want.

Good luck fine sire.

[area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Spill the beans on the shit host.

[Thomas007]

Originally Posted by TidalWave

We can do this on a group of specialized servers we reserve in a special section of our network/datacenter for "SEO" type servers.
We offer it over 10 C-Classes, you would have 5 IP's from each C-Class.

If this is acceptable feel free to contact us and let us know and we'll get back to you with the details to the rest of your questions.

[email protected]

Thanks

I need 50 different C classes, not 10.

[Thomas007]

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

At least you know what you need and want.

Good luck fine sire.

Thank you.
It will be interesting to see if any on GFY can / will deliver.

[Adraco]

I don't know for sure, but I think few if ANY host has 50 (!) different C blocks. If there are, they should be easy to count.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by Adraco

I don't know for sure, but I think few if ANY host has 50 (!) different C blocks. If there are, they should be easy to count.

That was my thought.

Also when he says he does not want to fill out the ARIN forms, that will narrow even more.

[Spudstr]

Originally Posted by Adraco

I don't know for sure, but I think few if ANY host has 50 (!) different C blocks. If there are, they should be easy to count.

We have more than 50 different /24's. However with the depletion of IPv4 address space and ARIN locking down on giving out new ips. Such a waste of IPS will be hard to come by and if not at a premium, if not now but in the near future.

I wouldn't be surprised in a few years if all these hosts with all these "seo" customers start terminating accounts or raising prices through the roof to obtain/reclaim used IP space for new business.

Lets face it, it comes down to business and making money. And when someone can't make any more business because of a resource like this you can guess whats going to happen.

Now if you would like we can offer IPv6 and give you the _entire_ IPv4 worth of address space just to yourself

[Thomas007]

If I lower the limit to 25 C blocks, how many can then participate?

[Cyandin]

Originally Posted by Thomas007

The 50 IPs must be assigned to the box on delivery, I don't want to apply for them.

Any person wanting an allocation larger than a /29-/28 (8-16 ip's), who refuses to comply with ARIN guidelines upholding the legitimacy of their request is in the great majority of cases doing something with them that they shouldn't be.

I'm by no means accusing you of anything, but you should be aware of the fact that not many hosts have over 50 different /24's.

If they do, among them, few will have those 50 /24's on more than 3-5 /8's (That's a "Class A").

Finally, any hosts that do are large enough that they will require strict compliance with ARIN guidelines before they're allocated.

Ergo, if you truly need an allocation like this, be prepared to justify it, and look to a very large host for your best shot at the best range of ip's to choose from, but remember that the obverse of doing so it that many large hosts look at an account as small as yours as nothing but a number, and not worthy of any special attention or support in times of need.

Best of luck.

[baddog]

We have well over 100 C's available, but 30 C's is the most we will put on one dedicated server, however, we will not give just one IP per C on a dedicated server as trying to keep track of assignments would be a nightmare.

[mountainmiester]

What no IPv6? It's 2010, wake up and smell the latte!

[fris]

why do you want so many ips?

please dont say its for seo, so many hosting companies prey on these type of clients, if you are doing whitehat work, you have nothing to worry about.

just gonna drive your cost up and have the same result.

[sandman!]

good luck finding that for $175

[Why]

what in the fuck do you need 50 blocks for? still stuck on that old myth about SEO only works on differant blocks? if they are all owned by same person, might as well be the same block..... DUH!

[Barefootsies]

People, especially in mainstream, use IP blocks's for things other than SEO.

[ro8in]

I had the same problem too.
I learned from now on to only host at companies who got more then 1000 clients and more then just 1 room in a datacenter. It might not be the cheapest but atleast i never have any of those problems i had with these small hosters anymore.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by sandman!

good luck finding that for $175

I missed the $175 requirement. Agreed, that is not going to happen.

[Ron Bennett]

50 IPs, even in the same /24, for presumably, what will be used primarily as a webserver, seems very, very excessive.

I can understand having separate IPs to separate mainstream from adult, to separate businesses, etc - and also for SSL services and backend use make sense too. But all that can often be done just fine with a handful of IPs (ie. 6-14) in the same block.

If you're going to insist on having IPs in separate /24s, you might as well as go with multiple servers too, each assigned to IPs in separate /24s.

With all that said, what are you seeking to use the server for?

Ron

[icymelon]

if your ok with 25 c's go with 2 lower end servers

[harvey]

Originally Posted by Thomas007

It looks like I have burned my fingers on a hosting company which promised the sky and delivered nothing. Now I need a replacement for them.
Their support is a joke, it turns out their main support can't support their VPS products.
It relies on one person.

Are there still any hosting companies reading this forum?

I would like a quote on a dedicated server or a VDS with 50 IPs in DIFFERENT C blocks.

I need minimum 100GB storage in a RAID 1 setup.
1 GB RAM.
1 CPU is plenty, does not need to be the newest.
Full management.
No backup of user data, we take care of that.

No resellers please, I only want a quote from companies which owns the infrastructure and have dedicated support personal.
No one man shows or mickey mouse operations.

10Mbits or equal GB included. Please inform about overage pricing.
The budget for the server is $175 / month.

No setup fees, and I want to be able to cancel the server with one month warning.

When you send the quote, please inform about:
- which A-B IP ranges you will place the IPs in.
- staff count in support, and how I contact them.
- Inform about your delivery time. I need PHP 5.2.13, Zend Optimizer, Apache 2.2.15 and Mysql 5.xx on it.


US based hosting is preferred, but I'm willing to consider other locations.
The 50 IPs must be assigned to the box on delivery, I don't want to apply for them.


Please EMAIL your quote to [email protected]

Thank you.

Thomas, I really doubt you'll get all this for $175. To be honest, I doubt you'll get it for 10x that budget. If you're doing this for SEO purposes, I think you're mistaken, you really don't need this. However, if you still want it, do like everybody else and get 2, 3, 10 or 50 cheap servers. I've 20+ servers, 3 of them at Hostgator and if you have different accounts they give you different class C (you may need to ask them for that). Otherwise, you can use Baddog's 30 class C, Pacifi Rack's 10 class C and so on

[EliteWebmaster]

Originally Posted by fris

why do you want so many ips?

please dont say its for seo, so many hosting companies prey on these type of clients, if you are doing whitehat work, you have nothing to worry about.

just gonna drive your cost up and have the same result.

True true, fris is correct.

And if you are thinking for blogs, it's another myth that having different c-ips is good for ranking

[TeenSluts]

50 different C classes for $175? lol

[Thomas007]

It is for SEO purposes.
I want the IPs to be in different classes because the webmasters we shall trade links with believes that different C classes is important.
If a webmaster shall trade with many of our sites, he would like the sites to be in different C classes.
It's all to meet the myths that some believe in.

Personally I think it don't make a big difference.
And we won't try to hide from google we own all the sites anyway.

The original host is able to deliver 50 C classes to the same server. They also gave me a quote for 100 C classes to the same server. The price quoted for 100 C classes was $300/month.

It seems like they finally got their act together in their support, so I will give them one last chance( I'm sceptic though) - also because I haven't received any quotes from this post which I can use instead.

So it does look like it's not something every host can deliver.

Going the route with many different hosts is something I would like to avoid.

The setup will now be 100 domains on 2 different hosts.
On 75 different C classes.

[chupachups]

Some of the guys in this thread obviously dont have the right connections or no experience at all regarding this. I have a few hosts with HUNDREDS of c-classes which I use, however, I would totally forget the idea about getting one IP from each class. It wont happen and normally I take 8-16-32 (-3 unusable) from each.

That kind of server for 175 bucks = no but maybe 4-500 or so if you find the right company.

Also, I take it you were probably lured into some deal with one of those indian or whatever, flyby ultra noob hosting companies that offer the kind of packages you are describing. Dont go that route - you have already said you considered them flakey so..

If you are really on a budget you might just aswell get 10 VPSs with different hosts which could probably render you 30-50 dffierent c-classes, though that would of course be a major pain in the ass to handle. However, on the other side you would be located in different DCs which is far more advantageous than the so called "c-classes". Spltting this on maybe 5 budget servers is what I would have done..