Who else believes Israel is behind 911?

[MetaMan]

I used to never think so. Reminds me of the Hamas killing in Dubai. Israeli agents pretending to be british travelers.

it makes to much sense for Israel to pull off 911 to help gain support from the american public for war in the middle east using Americas proxy army.

Israel is worried about Iran more than any other nation in the middle east. Iran is not an easy nation to just invade.



take a look at where Afghanistan and Iraq are strategically located. why else would they invade Iraq? it is simple they wanted to surround Iran.

After 911 the american public were easy to persuade into going into war in Afghanistan. This brought up alot of Muslim hatred and in turn made it easy to also win support in invading Iraq.

im not big into conspiracy theory but it is all starting to make a little more sense.

why are they still in Iraq an Afghanistan? simple. Israel could never attack Iraq and Afghanistan directly. it would have brought up to much hatred in the world causing all out world war. they are their because Israel wants them to be there. they used 911 and the americans as an excuse on a global scale to invade.

instead they attack the towers, blame it on the muslims and put americas proxy army into use.

it is so clever it is not even funny.

[The Demon]

^Makes it so much easier to criticize people in this industry for their lack of intelligence. I'm so happy you guys have no say in political matters, or have any significance in the lives of most people.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by MetaMan

Israel could never attack Iraq

israel attacked iraq directly in 1981.

[MetaMan]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

israel attacked iraq directly in 1981.

I do not think around the time of September 11th they could attack both iraq and Afghanistan without immense fallout from the globe.

i dont just mean attack i mean invade and stay for the longterm.

[IllTestYourGirls]

Remember the USS Liberty. Actually its anniversary today.

http://www.usslibertyveterans.org/

[mayabong]

Originally Posted by MetaMan

I used to never think so. Reminds me of the Hamas killing in Dubai. Israeli agents pretending to be british travelers.

it makes to much sense for Israel to pull off 911 to help gain support from the american public for war in the middle east using Americas proxy army.

Israel is worried about Iran more than any other nation in the middle east. Iran is not an easy nation to just invade.



take a look at where Afghanistan and Iraq are strategically located. why else would they invade Iraq? it is simple they wanted to surround Iran.

After 911 the american public were easy to persuade into going into war in Afghanistan. This brought up alot of Muslim hatred and in turn made it easy to also win support in invading Iraq.

im not big into conspiracy theory but it is all starting to make a little more sense.

why are they still in Iraq an Afghanistan? simple. Israel could never attack Iraq and Afghanistan directly. it would have brought up to much hatred in the world causing all out world war. they are their because Israel wants them to be there. they used 911 and the americans as an excuse on a global scale to invade.

instead they attack the towers, blame it on the muslims and put americas proxy army into use.

it is so clever it is not even funny.

Israel did 9/11
All the proof in the world

[Adam X]

no matter how many 9/11 truthers speak out, nothing ever seems to come of it..
plenty of evidence Israel was in on it.. the demolition, the planes, etc etc but where's the media now?

[mayabong]

Originally Posted by The Demon

^Makes it so much easier to criticize people in this industry for their lack of intelligence. I'm so happy you guys have no say in political matters, or have any significance in the lives of most people.

Israeli's are involved in all aspects from the building ownership, to the airport security, to the WTC security, to the 9/11 commission. You're a retard, nice that you're trying to protect your motherland.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Adam X

where's the media now?

if there is one thing we all need to agree on it's the fact that the media is NOT on our side.

[mayabong]

Originally Posted by Adam X

no matter how many 9/11 truthers speak out, nothing ever seems to come of it..
plenty of evidence Israel was in on it.. the demolition, the planes, etc etc but where's the media now?

They own the media.

[mayabong]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

if there is one thing we all need to agree on it's the fact that the media is NOT on our side.

HI dynamo, i miss you, sorry that we only talk on 9/11 threads.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by mayabong

HI dynamo, i miss you, sorry that we only talk on 9/11 threads.

too funny!

what's up

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by mayabong

Israeli's are involved in all aspects from the building ownership, to the airport security, to the WTC security, to the 9/11 commission. You're a retard, nice that you're trying to protect your motherland.

It's funny that you could call anybody a retard when your own common sense processing is highly suspect.

For example, the link you posted as "proof" (by the way you need to look up the difference between speculation and proof too) mentions early on that an important part of the plan was Silverstein taking control of the WTC complex in July of 2001. Now here's the good part. You REALLY believe that between July and September, the two towers were somehow wired for explosions without anybody every knowing. Buildings larger than have ever been demolished, were wired in almost no time at all in secret with all the charges completely hidden. Further the whole system works flawlessly after crashing airplanes in to the towers. This REALLY makes sense to you and you're calling other people retards?

[theking]

Fools...fools...and more fools.

[Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE]

I think the government is behind 911. Just called to make sure and the nice lady said so.

[mayabong]

Originally Posted by WarChild

It's funny that you could call anybody a retard when your own common sense processing is highly suspect.

For example, the link you posted as "proof" (by the way you need to look up the difference between speculation and proof too) mentions early on that an important part of the plan was Silverstein taking control of the WTC complex in July of 2001. Now here's the good part. You REALLY believe that between July and September, the two towers were somehow wired for explosions without anybody every knowing. Buildings larger than have ever been demolished, were wired in almost no time at all in secret with all the charges completely hidden. Further the whole system works flawlessly after crashing airplanes in to the towers. This REALLY makes sense to you and you're calling other people retards?

I don't know how they did it, I'm just saying there is alot more evidence of Israeli's and Zionist Jews Behind EVERYTHING than bin laden in a cave. Show me some evidence of bin laden, A VHS tape found by some random person in a random house in AFganistan? LOL.

If you can't at least say something is strange then you are either trying to protect the motherland like Demon or yes you are a retard.

[WarChild]

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. What you call "proof" is not proof at all. You're ridiculous and I won't argue with you about that fact.

[MetaMan]

Originally Posted by theking

Fools...fools...and more fools.

when you start to understand who controls media and how basically all media is filtered in north america you will start to think otherwise.

i know it hurts to learn everything you believe and hoped for is a lie.

what do you need to be a longstanding politician?

you need money and media support. who controls the majority of the money and the media in the USA. do the math.

[Kenny B!]

Israel has been working closely with Osama Bin Ladden for years, shhhh don't tell anyone.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by WarChild

You REALLY believe that between July and September, the two towers were somehow wired for explosions without anybody every knowing. Buildings larger than have ever been demolished, were wired in almost no time at all in secret with all the charges completely hidden. Further the whole system works flawlessly after crashing airplanes in to the towers.

i should go grab the link i showed to maya awhile back showing how this was done with ~600,000 custom made ceiling tiles, each with its own remote controlled detonator receiver/transmitter, painted with trick nano-thermite paint and all of those were even detonated by 100 regular bombs disguised as fire extinguishers strategically placed with their own remote controlled detonators.

600,100+ unique receivers/transmitters.

oh, all installed by unwitting illegal aliens.

[Dollarmansteve]

Israel autonomously attacks people all the time, at most they'll say "Hey we are doing this now, ktnxbye". Case in point when they took out that Syrian nuclear site a few years ago. No one said shit.. they went it, blew it to smithereens and the Syrians took their lumps for having their hand in the cookie jar.

[ottopottomouse]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

if there is one thing we all need to agree on it's the fact that the media is NOT on our side.

The media is there to make money and will peddle any old shit to get it.

There's too many crackpots on the internet with stupid theories and proof about things to weed out anything actually worth paying attention to.

[Caligari]

The US and Britain certainly had HUGE strategic advantage for such a plot so if it was collusion between them and Israel, it was a win win for all involved.

Except for the Iraqi/Afghanistan civilians, killed and maimed soldiers etc.

In the final analysis, if anyone still thinks that the entire 911 event was forged by one evil muslim mastermind, you really need to pull your head out.

[mayabong]

Originally Posted by WarChild

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. What you call "proof" is not proof at all. You're ridiculous and I won't argue with you about that fact.

Again your proof of bin laden? a random video tape found by god knows who in afganistan admitting to everything?

That is your extraordinary proof?

[The Duck]

Metaman I remember years ago you called me a fucking idiot for calling 911 as an inside job. Glad to see you are coming around ;)

However I do not see that it was done by Israelis exclusively, many more are involved and god knows who they are and what their true agenda is.

[Dollarmansteve]

Originally Posted by mayabong

Israeli's are involved in all aspects from the building ownership, to the airport security, to the WTC security, to the 9/11 commission. You're a retard, nice that you're trying to protect your motherland.

So, lemme get this straight. Mossad pulls of the mother of all conspiracies without anyone knowing.. yet are so sloppy that some degenerate, paranoid loser on the internet is able to figure it out?

Why don't you go suck Dylan Avery's cock.

[seeandsee]

Originally Posted by mayabong

Israel did 9/11
All the proof in the world

this is great source, too bad it will change nothing

[MetaMan]

Originally Posted by The Duck

Metaman I remember years ago you called me a fucking idiot for calling 911 as an inside job. Glad to see you are coming around ;)

However I do not see that it was done by Israelis exclusively, many more are involved and god knows who they are and what their true agenda is.

LOLZ maybe if it was in a thread about oil. i do not believe oil is a sole factor with the invasions. the cost of the war far outreaches the cost of the oil.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Caligari

In the final analysis, if anyone still thinks that the entire 911 event was forged by one evil muslim mastermind, you really need to pull your head out.

well, disregarding the head comment, this is the part that actually does not fit.

because bin laden would HAVE to be in cahoots with the mossad, us, and gb for the scenario to take place.

i'm open. let me know how this relationship could exist.

[mayabong]

Originally Posted by Dollarmansteve

So, lemme get this straight. Mossad pulls of the mother of all conspiracies without anyone knowing.. yet are so sloppy that some degenerate, paranoid loser on the internet is able to figure it out?

Why don't you go suck Dylan Avery's cock.

Dylan avery is jewish and does not implicate israel whatsoever. what a suprise.

[Caligari]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

well, disregarding the head comment, this is the part that actually does not fit.

because bin laden would HAVE to be in cahoots with the mossad, us, and gb for the scenario to take place.

i'm open. let me know how this relationship could exist.

absolutely. how about this. how do you know that bin laden actually exists as he has been portrayed in the media?

[Dollarmansteve]

Originally Posted by Caligari

The US and Britain certainly had HUGE strategic advantage for such a plot so if it was collusion between them and Israel, it was a win win for all involved.

Except for the Iraqi/Afghanistan civilians, killed and maimed soldiers etc.

In the final analysis, if anyone still thinks that the entire 911 event was forged by one evil muslim mastermind, you really need to pull your head out.

So in other words, you need to believe that some "international government boogeyman" was responsible for 9/11 and can't accept the simple chaos that is existence. You can't accept the cold, boring reality that 5000+ ppl got killed by a few dozen extremists. It shakes your world-view. So you cling onto fairy-tales to make existence more palatable.

You know what that is the same as? Dogmatic religion.

[mayabong]

Originally Posted by seeandsee

this is great source, too bad it will change nothing

911 missing Links is the best (and only) documentary on the israel - 911 connection. I recommend that everyone watch it.

[Dollarmansteve]

Originally Posted by mayabong

Dylan avery is jewish and does not implicate israel whatsoever. what a suprise.

He's on team-sociopath though buddy, i.e. your team.

So your anti-semitism knows no bounds?

[The Demon]

Originally Posted by Dollarmansteve

So in other words, you need to believe that some "international government boogeyman" was responsible for 9/11 and can't accept the simple chaos that is existence. You can't accept the cold, boring reality that 5000+ ppl got killed by a few dozen extremists. It shakes your world-view. So you cling onto fairy-tales to make existence more palatable.

You know what that is the same as? Dogmatic religion.

HAHAHAHAHAH Owned. Btw not to nitpick, but the term is "religious dogmatism". The same can apply to "secular dogmatism."

[The Demon]

Originally Posted by mayabong

911 missing Links is the best (and only) documentary on the israel - 911 connection. I recommend that everyone watch it.

[Amputate Your Head]

I don't know or have any theories on who performed 9/11, but one thing I'm 100% certain of is that it was not a string of mysterious coincidences or accidents, and it was not a 6-pack of "terrorists" with a grammar school education.

Planes don't bring down buildings, and especially not buildings they don't touch. And jumbo jets do not "vaporize" without a trace. Anyone that believes the "official report" is truly a fucking idiot.

[Caligari]

Originally Posted by Dollarmansteve

So in other words, you need to believe that some "international government boogeyman" was responsible for 9/11 and can't accept the simple chaos that is existence. You can't accept the cold, boring reality that 5000+ ppl got killed by a few dozen extremists. It shakes your world-view. So you cling onto fairy-tales to make existence more palatable.

You know what that is the same as? Dogmatic religion.

actually it would be you who is desperately trying to cling to a reality that is black and white, where neat answers are served up for you to digest and get on with your daily life.

the series of events around 911 were presented to you 24/7 for months after, and it was the same story over and over again, and you took it hook, line and sinker.

its very easy really, those who tell the lie with repeatedly with more force are those who forge reality. hitler believed this.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Caligari

absolutely. how about this. how do you know that bin laden actually exists as he has been portrayed in the media?

well, i'm not good at this sort of thing so i am not sure what you are driving at. do i think he's alive or a part of the saudi royal family or ?


in general, i must say i do not trust the media and intel publically available portraying him.

[MetaMan]

Originally Posted by Dollarmansteve

He's on team-sociopath though buddy, i.e. your team.

So your anti-semitism knows no bounds?

why is this turned into anti-semetism?

keep to the topic at hand.

if you cant understand what a highly advanced intelligence community is capable of their is no hope for you.

[Martin]

[MetaMan]

Originally Posted by Martin

BINGO now you got it. took me some time. but now i get it.

[mayabong]

Originally Posted by Martin

Coincidence?

[Caligari]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

in general, i must say i do not trust the media and intel publically available portraying him.

thats all i'm saying...

don't you find it just a little strange that this man, one of the most wanted men in recent history, who had been "hunted" for the last 9 years by the most sophisticated intelligence agencies in the world, has magically avoided capture?

[mayabong]

Now a map of Greater Israel

[Cyber Fucker]

All people I know.

If you ask me... well, I think it's possible they had indirect participation. They could secretly support Islamic extremists that did this. Imho Israel is capable to sacrifice 10 000 humans being for their dirty greed purpose, especially where most of these people that died weren't Jews. But not necessarily... I don't know.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Caligari

thats all i'm saying...

don't you find it just a little strange that this man, one of the most wanted men in recent history, who had been "hunted" for the last 9 years by the most sophisticated intelligence agencies in the world, has magically avoided capture?

well, your going away from the question.


i would like some sort of information that could explain how a relationship between the u.s. government, GB gov, the mossad and bin laden/al qaida/etc. could all combine resources to carry out 9/11.

[Caligari]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

well, your going away from the question.


i would like some sort of information that could explain how a relationship between the u.s. government, GB gov, the mossad and bin laden/al qaida/etc. could all combine resources to carry out 9/11.

i think its spot on the question. you're asking about bin laden and what you think you know about him vs reality. i am in turn asking "who is bin laden?" and what really is "al qaida?"

knowing these would definitely put the puzzle into more perspective as far as the relationship you mentioned is concerned.

here is one scenario- what if someone approached bin laden and said "you will be the mastermind behind an incredible terror plot which will give you messiah like status, all you have to do is take credit for it."

[Dollarmansteve]

Originally Posted by Caligari

actually it would be you who is desperately trying to cling to a reality that is black and white, where neat answers are served up for you to digest and get on with your daily life.

the series of events around 911 were presented to you 24/7 for months after, and it was the same story over and over again, and you took it hook, line and sinker.

its very easy really, those who tell the lie with repeatedly with more force are those who forge reality. hitler believed this.

I know what I know, and accept what I don't. The reality I cling to is.. reality. Planes crashed, people died. Missiles, conspiracies, cover-ups - doesn't matter, it's irrelevant.

It's a political issue for Americans, all your beliefs are tied into politics and all these other issues, your whole society is "us vs. them" - democrats vs. republicans, good vs. evil, truth vs. lies - you are raised this way.

So for you, if I'm not on your team, I must have some other, opposite beliefs that are just unacceptable. In the 9/11 context, this means that because I don't share your beliefs I am a 'sheep' who 'accepts the story' and I lack some kind of intellectual insight because I can't 'accept the truth'. I 'have my head in the sand' and can't 'wake up to what's really going on'. It's called the 'out-group homogeneity effect' whereby you apply the same attributes to all those who aren't part of your 'in-group'. You obviously hold a set of beliefs that are not up for debate, and regardless of what I might think, as soon as I don't hold those same beliefs.. that's the end of it.

The geo-political implications from the events of that day can be studied and argued and debated regardless of the method of the attack. Finding out the 'truth' is an empty pursuit and a playground for the small minded. But feel free to seek justice and some kind of great catharsis in discovering 'the truth'.

I'll end by saying - there is nothing to argue, your beliefs about 9/11 are religious in nature and there is no 'debate' or even intelligent conversion with a 9/11 zealot (irony intended).

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

well, disregarding the head comment, this is the part that actually does not fit.

because bin laden would HAVE to be in cahoots with the mossad, us, and gb for the scenario to take place.

i'm open. let me know how this relationship could exist.

It's fact that Osama was on CIA payroll up until the day of 9-11 (and beyond?) Mossad and SIS, MI5 and many others are pretty much branches of the same entity. It's fact that Osama was last publicly seen at an American hospital in the presence of a CIA handler just before 9/11. The CIA has publicly admitted they have created fake Osama video's. And last but not least Osama isn't even his real name.. Just like our Obama.