Washington Post hit piece on Pornography. Further justification of Internet "Kill Switch"? - GoFuckYourself.com

Ethersync · 06-17-2010, 08:14 AM

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Congress must ensure that obscenity laws are enforced so that children are not exposed to pornography on the Internet, researchers and advocates of Internet safety said Tuesday.

Speaking at a briefing at the U.S. Capitol Visitor Center, researchers said because obscenity laws have not been upheld or enforced, illegal adult pornography has flooded and polluted the Internet.

"Today we are calling on Congress and the Department of Justice to ensure that the enforcement of our current obscenity laws is a priority," said Donna Rice Hughes, president of Enough Is Enough, a Virginia-based nonprofit that works to make the Internet safer for children and families. "Our children's innocence is worth fighting for."

Under the law, illegal adult pornography is known as obscenity. Obscenity is defined as graphic material that focuses on sex or sexual violence, and it includes lewd exhibition of the genitals, close-ups of graphic sex acts and deviant activities such as group sex, bestiality and incest.

"It continues to grow and to spread and has reached epidemic proportions," Mrs. Hughes said. "We are facing a national crisis that is every bit as damaging to our citizens and our culture as the oil spill is to the Gulf and the Gulf community."

Statistics show that seven in 10 children have accidentally accessed pornography on the Internet and one in three have done so intentionally. Forty percent of children accidentally access Internet pornography through innocent word searches such as "water sports."

Statistics show that the average age of exposure is 11 years old - some start at 8 years old. Any child is too young, Mrs. Hughes said.

"Imagery definitely affects children," said Dr. Sharon Cooper, a forensic pediatrician and faculty member at the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill School of Medicine. "Adult pornography is a good example of giving children unhealthy sexual images."

Pornography normalizes sexual harm, Dr. Cooper said. It shows children a lack of any kind of emotional commitment or relationship between two consensual partners, shows unprotected sexual contact and visual examples often of violent rape.

"When a child sees this image of adult pornography, the mirror neurons that are in their brain will convince them that they are actually experiencing what they are seeing," she said.

Children are very vulnerable as compared to adults because of the presence of mirror neurons in the brain, Dr. Cooper said. Mirror neurons are part of the brain that convince us that when we see something we are actually experiencing it.

According to the American Psychological Association, over the past 12 years, girls have changed in their thinking. They are beginning to see themselves as having their only value in sexuality.

"When a child sees herself only as a sexual object, she is no longer able to demand the kind of respect she deserves," Dr. Cooper said. "The new definition of 'love' these days is sending a sexually explicit picture."

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96ukssob · 06-17-2010, 08:19 AM

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Pornography normalizes sexual harm, Dr. Cooper said. It shows children a lack of any kind of emotional commitment or relationship between two consensual partners, shows unprotected sexual contact and visual examples often of violent rape.

"When a child sees this image of adult pornography, the mirror neurons that are in their brain will convince them that they are actually experiencing what they are seeing," she said.

Children are very vulnerable as compared to adults because of the presence of mirror neurons in the brain, Dr. Cooper said. Mirror neurons are part of the brain that convince us that when we see something we are actually experiencing it.

seriously? this fucktard has a doctrine degree? Shit, then fatfoo should have 3!

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BestXXXPorn · 06-17-2010, 08:26 AM

Welcome to the puritanical influences of western civilization... a bunch of fucking sexually repressed nut jobs who think sex is bad but showing people get shot in the face in a war zone on TV is ok...

Va2k · 06-17-2010, 08:27 AM

I myself think something should be done to protect our kids from this! To what extent I have no clue. I would like to see a Internet for only kids! That would be the best thing. But the way the obscenity laws are now, they suck and can get everyone in some real trouble. They should just come up with what is Obscene and what isn't! *shrugs*

sortie · 06-17-2010, 08:27 AM

They can help reduce this plague by blocking illegal tubes and torrents.

See how hard that are trying? That's how serious they are.

BestXXXPorn · 06-17-2010, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by sexdatesj

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What?!?!?! Self responsibility?!!?!? NEVER!!! This is America man... we need the government to do everything for everyone and make sure everyone is protected from anything anyone feels is unsafe emotionally and/or physically... Welcome to Nazi America... but it's a kinder gentler type of Nazi where we don't kill people we just strip all their freedoms.

kristin · 06-17-2010, 08:31 AM

Don't leave your kids alone in a room with the Internet? Actually be a parent? Put filters up?

There are a gazillion things to do - but bottom line is parents don't want to be responsible for their child's actions.

People bitch about government involvement - fucking be a parent and you wouldn't have to have them interfere.

Grapesoda · 06-17-2010, 08:40 AM

"illegal adult pornography is known as obscenity"

i don't shoot illegal adult photography so I'm fine

ottopottomouse · 06-17-2010, 08:51 AM

And everyone thought Darrah was a bit loopy

Quentin · 06-17-2010, 10:19 AM

Hmm... not the most thoroughly researched piece I've read, that's for sure. For starters, there's the laughable, dumbed-down definition of obscenity that they offer:

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Obscenity is defined as graphic material that focuses on sex or sexual violence, and it includes lewd exhibition of the genitals, close-ups of graphic sex acts and deviant activities such as group sex, bestiality and incest.

No, it isn't. The legal definition of obscenity is nowhere near this clear. The actual legal definition of obscenity is a question of the Miller Test, which holds that a work is considered obscene if:

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- The average person, applying contemporary community standards, would find that the work, taken as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest,

- The work depicts/describes, in a patently offensive way, sexual conduct or excretory functions specifically defined by applicable state law,

- The work, taken as a whole, lacks serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value.

The work in question has to meet all three of those prongs and naturally it doesn't even really end there, because in order to derive any meaning from the standard, you also have to know the statutory and case-law-derived definitions of the key individual terms used in the Miller test as well, like "contemporary community standards," "prurient interest," "patently offensive," etc.

Anti-porn groups tend to argue that essentially any and all hardcore porn meets the above definition, and that shouldn't come as much of a surprise, despite the standard's obvious subjectivity. There's a great deal of crossover between anti-porn groups and both the "religious right" and the "feminist left" -- populations that are typically quite comfortable with telling everyone else how they should think and live, and who frequently pretend that there's nothing ambiguous about the written word, no matter how clearly ambiguous that written word may be.

While it isn't that surprising that the Washington Times ran this story without questioning whether any of the scientific assertions were accurate/well accepted in the relevant fields of study, or that they didn't obtain comment from an opposing viewpoint, it is still disappointing to me that they oversimplified the legal standard to the extent that they did. The Times, after all, benefits from the same First Amendment protections that the adult industry does, so one would hope that they'd have a better understanding of such things.

What am I thinking? This is American journalism in 2010... I should be impressed that they spelled obscenity properly.

Paul Markham · 06-17-2010, 10:59 AM

Freedom of Speech will never let this get passed. Whether they come up with a solution and put porn behind CC verification is another thing. Not 100% but goes to eliminate children inadvertently stumbling over porn.

Serge Litehead · 06-17-2010, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Fungus

I myself think something should be done to protect our kids from this! To what extent I have no clue. I would like to see a Internet for only kids! That would be the best thing. But the way the obscenity laws are now, they suck and can get everyone in some real trouble. They should just come up with what is Obscene and what isn't! *shrugs*

simple: no sex and nudity in public places should be applicable to publicly accessible internet (web sites)

sexual act is ridiculous to be looked at from obscenity perspective. something that only religious fanatics could come up with. wonder how that term got at all into our laws. i find horror zombie movies to be obscene but none of them get shut down with obscene charges. utter nonsense. raping or offensively degrading humans while filming it or not is one thing, but equaling sexual act or nudity to it - some nuts are out of their mind.

Tom_PM · 06-17-2010, 11:35 AM

I think I had a wet dream around the age of 8. Am I going to hell? Is God responsible for dreams? I couldnt call it a nightmare. Oh well, see ya'll in hell

SpongeBub · 06-17-2010, 12:47 PM

Donna Rice is a reformed whore and there is nothing worse. She now has to tell everyone else how they must live their lives. I liked her better when she was blowing Gary Hart on a sailboat and posing for Playboy.

That said, I do think there is way too easy access to porn for kids on the web. I thank dog that the interwebs weren't around when I was a kid. I would have never had a real girlfriend or wife if I had found porn at 16. I would have just wanked.

Elli · 06-17-2010, 12:51 PM

What a joke. Once every election cycle this comes around, it seems.

GrouchyAdmin · 06-17-2010, 12:53 PM

I love how the solution to shitty parenting is always making it difficult for everyone else to live their lives.

Fucking lazy westerners.

epitome · 06-17-2010, 12:56 PM

Donna Rice:

Then...

Now...

She looks a little uptight now...probably needs to get laid...or watch porn.

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Va2k I’m still alive barley. Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Va Posts: 10,060	I myself think something should be done to protect our kids from this! To what extent I have no clue. I would like to see a Internet for only kids! That would be the best thing. But the way the obscenity laws are now, they suck and can get everyone in some real trouble. They should just come up with what is Obscene and what isn't! shrugs __________________

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SpongeBub Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 470	Donna Rice is a reformed whore and there is nothing worse. She now has to tell everyone else how they must live their lives. I liked her better when she was blowing Gary Hart on a sailboat and posing for Playboy. That said, I do think there is way too easy access to porn for kids on the web. I thank dog that the interwebs weren't around when I was a kid. I would have never had a real girlfriend or wife if I had found porn at 16. I would have just wanked. Last edited by SpongeBub; 06-17-2010 at 12:49 PM..

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epitome So Fucking Lame Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 12,158	Donna Rice: Then... Now... She looks a little uptight now...probably needs to get laid...or watch porn.