Vote If You Are AGAINST the .xxx tld

[u-Bob]

and don't forget to mail your objections to [email protected].

[u-Bob]

pls bump after you have voted

[fatfoo]

Tell us the reasons why somebody would be against .xxx domains?

[KillerK]

I am for it, I want Helmy to get rich

[Farang]

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by fatfoo

Tell us the reasons why somebody would be against .xxx domains?

from AIREK:

To whom it may concern:

UPDATE: I originally posted this during the FIRST comment period. It
still applies unchanged and unchallenged. In addition, it is being
reported that ICM is declaring that the adult business wants .XXX and
attempts to prove it by showing domain reservations as proof. it
should be duly noted that a large percentage of people in the adult
industry have reserved names out of fear and trademark legalities, and
impending squatter concerns, and NOT because they are supporting or
desire the TLD. I'm sure that ICANN is doing their homework, but it
needs to be reinforced. No one wants this mess. Not even the
government. Thank you.

I am an adult webmaster working in the adult online business. I am also
a veteran of the USAF and a decorated E-5 Non Commissioned Officer. I
was a Police Officer for 5 years from 1988-1993. To believe that a TLD
itself will protect children and keep them safe is to be naïve and
tunnel-visioned in our perception of what .XXX is designed to do, which
is make a few people a lot of money at the expense of others. I
strongly oppose .XXX as a method for preventing children from seeing
adult materials online. The originator of this proposal is clearly
motivated by money and the adult internet rejects his principals.

The .XXX TLD will not prevent children from seeing pornography on the
Internet. The .XXX TLD will not prevent children from being preyed upon
and abused by Internet predators. I don?t see Dateline with Chris Hansen
talking about pornographic websites as a catalyst to those sick people
that they snare on their ?To Catch A Predator? show. The .XXX TLD will
not stop pornographic unsolicited emails (SPAM). What .XXX will do is
line the pockets of the proposals creator, nothing more. The proposals
creator cares not of children.

.XXX will not make it any harder for children to access adult materials.
Regardless of filtering or whatever other mechanisms we think that we
can apply to a domain extension, nothing will work. What works is
parents being responsible for their children by being aware of what they
are doing. By proposing and enacting .KIDS, software may be installed
that will only allow .KIDS domains to resolve. .COM will always have
some sort of pornographic affiliated with it. There are renegades all
over the world that really don?t care what TLDs we use. The only course
of action is to hold parents accountable and provide them a tool (.KIDS)
so they may allow only those .KIDS domains to resolve in their homes.
If ICM/IFFOR care about children, they would be spending their time
trying to get the .KIDS TLD passed. Please, help us all protect our
children, nieces, nephews, and grandchildren by working towards a .KIDS
TLD. Thank you for your consideration.

I?m not going to get longwinded on you as I am sure you have 1000?s of
these to read. .XXX is a bad idea, designed by mere financial
opportunists that recognized a potential opportunity. Lets not play
their game, but instead do something that really will protect the
countries children, and those around the world should other countries
decide to follow in the path that is created by pushing through a .KIDS
TLD.

Thank you

A concerned veteran

[u-Bob]

from Mike South:

I am a 20 year industry veteran, I operate about 40 websites and I STRONGLY oppose the .xxx top level domain. There is no need for it and it will create more problems than it could possibly solve. It will be used as a political tool and that must not be allowed to happen.

If you really want to protect "children" on the internet a .kids domain is MUCH more viable.

This tld has been voted down what? 3? 4 times?


Doesn't it say something that both the Bush Administration and the adult industry opposed this abomination?

I urge you to send Stuart Lawley and ICM Registry packing once and for all.


Listen to the people not the snake oil salesmen. KILL this idea for good.




Mike South


A Gun Totin, Libertarian Pornographer

[u-Bob]

from woj:

Originally Posted by woj

creation of it is probably just phase 1 of his whole plan... phase 2 is probably pressuring politicians to make .xxx mandatory for adult content...

[ThumbLord]

voted and a bump.
please people use the link and tell them how you really feel.

[Paul Markham]

ICANN will keep coming back to this until they pass it.

[sarettah]

bumpity bump

I am for it.

[AtlantisCash]

an other bumpity from me

[u-Bob]

bump

[nikki99]

voted

[Caligari]

.xxx stupid me no like

[halfpint]

voted and bumped

[ArsewithClass]

Originally Posted by u-Bob

from Mike South:

I agree with the comment from Mike with .kids would be more satisfactory. But does this mean that he is stating that every website that is not adult should be made .kids?

On the basis that this is to stop children from looking at adult content (which is the one & only reason I am for it). Would it not be best if all, that is all! Adult content websites, tours, pages & more including dating, free or images need to have a bar asking for credit card details without taking money.

I was originally going to place this on my index page but I knew the competition was to high. If all adult content needed a creditcard detail adding then there would be no competition & adult sites would remain making the same money without the traffic that was just lookers. It could work so much better.

I believe that the people that say that this is a money swindle, are correct

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass

I agree with the comment from Mike with .kids would be more satisfactory. But does this mean that he is stating that every website that is not adult should be made .kids?

One of the arguments used by the ICM is that once there's a .xxx tld, parents will be able to block porn by blocking .xxx domains. This is of course BS since there's already plenty of porn on the other tld's. And since there's no way for ICANN to effectively move all adult content away from the already existing tld's to the proposed .xxx tld, unless they turn themselves into a huge content review agency that constantly monitors all websites and webpages and drops violating domains (they would have to raise the price of a .com to let's say $100/y just to pay for the manpower and infrastructure), the only way to create a porn-free area on the web is to create a .kids tld with a strict application and review procedure. Parents would then be able to "block everything except for .kids domains". It's the same tactics you apply hen you set up a firewall: block everything except for the things you want to allow.

[LAJ]

Too bad you didn't offer responses in support of it as a choice.

Looks like Xbiz has a .xxx poll and the last I checked nearly 70% of respondents are in favor of .xxx.

Would be interested to compare notes.

[Connor]

Originally Posted by LAJ

Too bad you didn't offer responses in support of it as a choice.

Looks like Xbiz has a .xxx poll and the last I checked nearly 70% of respondents are in favor of .xxx.

Would be interested to compare notes.

Heh, I'd LOOOVEE to meet all the people that are supposedly for it in that poll... cause in my experience, a very very small fraction of this industry has supported .XXX in any way.

Maybe their software went all buggy on that poll for some innocent reason? I dunno. ;)

[GonZo]

Originally Posted by LAJ

Too bad you didn't offer responses in support of it as a choice.

Looks like Xbiz has a .xxx poll and the last I checked nearly 70% of respondents are in favor of .xxx.

Would be interested to compare notes.

I wonder why.... what would Xbiz have to gain from its passage?

[seeandsee]

No, I do NOT want a .xxx tld and I will boycott registrars that support it!

Originally Posted by Connor

Heh, I'd LOOOVEE to meet all the people that are supposedly for it in that poll... cause in my experience, a very very small fraction of this industry has supported .XXX in any way.

Maybe their software went all buggy on that poll for some innocent reason? I dunno. ;)

Originally Posted by Killswitch

I am for it.

[ArsewithClass]

Originally Posted by u-Bob

One of the arguments used by the ICM is that once there's a .xxx tld, parents will be able to block porn by blocking .xxx domains. This is of course BS since there's already plenty of porn on the other tld's. And since there's no way for ICANN to effectively move all adult content away from the already existing tld's to the proposed .xxx tld, unless they turn themselves into a huge content review agency that constantly monitors all websites and webpages and drops violating domains (they would have to raise the price of a .com to let's say $100/y just to pay for the manpower and infrastructure), the only way to create a porn-free area on the web is to create a .kids tld with a strict application and review procedure. Parents would then be able to "block everything except for .kids domains". It's the same tactics you apply hen you set up a firewall: block everything except for the things you want to allow.

All this is obvious... but sometimes kids do not just want to look at kids sites, sometimes sites like ebay or your local florists would need to be changed this means.


Its not a great idea to change everyone just so the adult content is blocked from minors. Therefore the idea that I gave about using credit card details on all adult content including dating, tours, images.... everything. Would be the best idea.

[ArsewithClass]

Oh, by the way people... A boycott is if everyone is going to do it. Otherwise, some lucky bastard buys all the .xxx and sells them for lots lots more.

Already I can see from the stats that anyone not purchasing the .xxx if it does go forward, would be an idiot. Sorry for the bad news, but its either 1 for all and all for 1 or we buy our .xxx when they are on offer.

[baddog]

if you register a .xxx you are also sending in a letter of support.

[Connor]

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass

Oh, by the way people... A boycott is if everyone is going to do it. Otherwise, some lucky bastard buys all the .xxx and sells them for lots lots more.

Already I can see from the stats that anyone not purchasing the .xxx if it does go forward, would be an idiot. Sorry for the bad news, but its either 1 for all and all for 1 or we buy our .xxx when they are on offer.

The .XXX proposal isn't for a generic TLD, it's for a sponsored TLD. That means there will be an organization, set up by NON-INDUSTRY people, ruled MOSTLY by NON-INDUSTRY people, with only non-majority token representation from the industry, probably by companies who regularly kiss .XXX's nut sack. Hmmmm.

This organization will get to SET RULES, telling you what you can and can't do with your .XXX domain name. Again, it is NOT a generic TLD proposal. This is totally different than .COM, so if you don't understand, learn about it.

Anyone who invests time, energy and money into a site on a .XXX domain name is, in my humble opinion, a complete idiot and will deserve their fate. Imagine investing countless hours promoting your website, money on traffic, branding, having an established user base, and then the .XXX gods show up and say, "You now have to do this laundry list of things in order to keep your domain name. If you don't like it, give up the domain."

Why would ANY business person with ANY sense whatsoever willingly put themselves in that position?

Originally Posted by Connor

The .XXX proposal isn't for a generic TLD, it's for a sponsored TLD. That means there will be an organization, set up by NON-INDUSTRY people, ruled MOSTLY by NON-INDUSTRY people, with only non-majority token representation from the industry, probably by companies who regularly kiss .XXX's nut sack. Hmmmm.

This organization will get to SET RULES, telling you what you can and can't do with your .XXX domain name. Again, it is NOT a generic TLD proposal. This is totally different than .COM, so if you don't understand, learn about it.

Anyone who invests time, energy and money into a site on a .XXX domain name is, in my humble opinion, a complete idiot and will deserve their fate. Imagine investing countless hours promoting your website, money on traffic, branding, having an established user base, and then the .XXX gods show up and say, "You now have to do this laundry list of things in order to keep your domain name. If you don't like it, give up the domain."

Why would ANY business person with ANY sense whatsoever willingly put themselves in that position?

Maybe that's what the industry needs, someone outside the industry regulating it, because history shows none of the tardos in this industry can even regulate themselves let alone a whole industry.

[Connor]

Originally Posted by Killswitch

Maybe that's what the industry needs, someone outside the industry regulating it, because history shows none of the tardos in this industry can even regulate themselves let alone a whole industry.

Heh, if that's the logic of a .XXX supporter then I rest my case.

[TeenCat]

i am too old or young for this

[ArsewithClass]

Originally Posted by Connor

Why would ANY business person with ANY sense whatsoever willingly put themselves in that position?

I certainly would not want to place myself in this position which is why I cannot understand why any positions prepared to adjust the internet for the goodness of minors, would not just make it legal to have a creditcard gateway to all adultsites & images as said already. And, I do see this is a great money spindler.


My main comment is the fact that a boycott shall not work as there are many people that would not join a boycott and therefore a boycott would not work.

Originally Posted by Killswitch

Maybe that's what the industry needs, someone outside the industry regulating it, because history shows none of the tardos in this industry can even regulate themselves let alone a whole industry.

Its true that an outsider does not have to be a charlotten or a jesus goer, creating new rules for the adult business. it can still work with .xxx


I think most of all, any folk with many .coms shall feel the problem as they shall have a fair few notes to shed. May I add that someone could advise the people in control of marketing .xxx that there could be a deduction on large volumes purchased or maybe to replace the .com preowned, a reduction in costs.

[Connor]

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass

My main comment is the fact that a boycott shall not work as there are many people that would not join a boycott and therefore a boycott would not work.

Boycotts aren't all or nothing... the fewer customers they have, the better. That said, even if I didn't have philosophical problems with .XXX, even if I wasn't concerned about the "greater good" of the industry, I still wouldn't be foolish enough to invest in a .XXX branded site, for the reasons I mentioned previously.

[SilentBean]

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[KingNigel]

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[D Ghost]

buuuuuuump

[minddust]

No real vote here

and the "veterans" can suck my hairy balls.

[Nicolas]

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[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

For what they have invested into this, I can't see how they will be happy just selling them at $70 a pop to a relatively small number of webmasters.

Take a look at the bottom 5 TLDs:

.ASIA 211,044
.TRAVEL 42,930
.PRO 38,756
.AERO 16,397
.COOP 5,950

I don't see .xxx reaching .pro status, which would make .xxx a failure unless they can secretly press for mandatory use.

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[crazytrini85]

Now for a dose of reality:

Each and every one of you will RUN to buy these the day you can actually get your hands on them. If for no other reason than the fear that you will miss out on something.

[KingNigel]

I do NOT want a .xxx tld.

[NBBCash Matze]

voted and bump

[KingNigel]

Bump bump

[u-Bob]

fuck the .xxx tld!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Cyber Fucker]

It's like tilt at windmills, you want stop ICANN and registrars greed, money talks.

[NewbieNudes]

email sent

[ErectMedia]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

ICANN will keep coming back to this until they pass it.

true, it's all a money grab, all the good .coms gone let's release something else, extension fails oh well unto the next one, .xxx will be here soon whether it happens this week, in a few months or next year it's coming.

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by ErectMedia

it's all a money grab

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