The Coming Iran War?

[BFT3K]

Last week twelve US warships and at least one Israeli warship passed through the Suez Canal on their way to the Red Sea. Included among the US fleet is the aircraft carrier, USS Harry S Truman. Today we learn that the Israeli Air Force have set up base at a Saudi airfield near Tabuk in north-west Saudi Arabia despite earlier denials from the Saudi government that it had given the Israelis permission to use its airspace to attack Iran. We also learn that American and possibly Israel forces are also gathering at bases in Azerbaijan at the north-west border of Iran.

Story continues here...

http://lataan.blogspot.com/2010/06/coming-iran-war.html

What say you?

[Amputate Your Head]

Shock & Awe Part II

[pornmasta]

No... the coming debt

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by pornmasta

No... the coming debt

dont worry spain will pay for this one

[MetaMan]

That is what you get for supporting Israel you zionist fucksticks.

[Amputate Your Head]

I think we should invade and take Somalia too. It's time.

[czarina]

Obama is becoming Bush III

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally Posted by czarina

Obama is becoming Bush III

Nah, Bush III will come in 2012 when Jeb Bush runs.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by czarina

Obama is becoming Bush III

Obamanation is far worse than Bush ever was

[Sly]

Originally Posted by BFT3K

Last week twelve US warships and at least one Israeli warship passed through the Suez Canal on their way to the Red Sea. Included among the US fleet is the aircraft carrier, USS Harry S Truman. Today we learn that the Israeli Air Force have set up base at a Saudi airfield near Tabuk in north-west Saudi Arabia despite earlier denials from the Saudi government that it had given the Israelis permission to use its airspace to attack Iran. We also learn that American and possibly Israel forces are also gathering at bases in Azerbaijan at the north-west border of Iran.

Story continues here...

http://lataan.blogspot.com/2010/06/coming-iran-war.html

What say you?

Saudi Arabia and the other Middle Eastern countries will allow Israel to do what they need to do... they just can't admit it. None of them like Iran (well, aside from Hamas, Hezbollah, Syria.)

[pornmasta]

Omg SA can't help these Americans Infidels against our muslim brothers!!!

[Raf1]

looks like they're trying to help their business buddies "cash in" on another war

[dyna mo]

the u.s won't be a real part of it, our commanders in charge are smart enough to know not to engage in 3 wars at the same time, also, the resources simply are not there. the fleet movement is somesort of gamesmanship, that's what they do. not saying israel isn't going to attack iran in some way, but it will be the typical back and forth that goes on over there every so often- israel strikes fast and hard, israel's enemies lob some shit that way, civilians die, cease fire, cease fire off, cease fire for holiday weekend, blah, etc,

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

the u.s won't be a real part of it, our commanders in charge are smart enough to know not to engage in 3 wars at the same time, also, the resources simply are not there. the fleet movement is somesort of gamesmanship, that's what they do. not saying israel isn't going to attack iran in some way, but it will be the typical back and forth that goes on over there every so often- israel strikes fast and hard, israel's enemies lob some shit that way, civilians die, cease fire, cease fire off, cease fire for holiday weekend, blah, etc,

Don't be so sure, remember that Iraq is on one side of Iran and Afghanistan is on the other, just combine them, 3 countries in one package

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Sly

Saudi Arabia and the other Middle Eastern countries will allow Israel to do what they need to do... they just can't admit it. None of them like Iran (well, aside from Hamas, Hezbollah, Syria.)

don't think syria likes iran... it's just the sryia is over run with hezbolla and they can't get rid of them

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Don't be so sure, remember that Iraq is on one side of Iran and Afghanistan is on the other, just combine them, 3 countries in one package

Exactly... so the question is, after Iran is conquered, will that combined region of Iraq, Iran, & Afghanistan become USA II or Israel II?

[Sly]

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

Exactly... so the question is, after Iran is conquered, will that combined region of Iraq, Iran, & Afghanistan become USA II or Israel II?

Iraqananistan.

[marketsmart]

i want this to happen and i will gladly pay 80% of my income in taxes to see it happen...

the economy is in a downward spiral, there is now end in sight to iraq or afghanistan..

now we are slowly inching deeper into pakistan..

fuck it... let's do this..

lets go all in and lets let some nukes fly too...

if you are going to call yourself a superpower, then start acting like one..






.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Don't be so sure, remember that Iraq is on one side of Iran and Afghanistan is on the other, just combine them, 3 countries in one package

the resources aren't there, our troops are already spread thin throughout iraq and afghanistan. our commanders know this, they boil it down to numbers + historical data = statistical outcome. we would have to draw down troops elsewhere and redeploy them to iran, so if we ever do invade iran, we'd at least have an early warning vis a vis our troops not already deployed.

[Agent 488]

we've been almost at war with iran for 8 years now.

propaganda that benefits both the ruling classes of the united states and iran.

[JustDaveXxx]

Need money to go to war. We already spent our war tokens. We will be watching this one from the side lines.

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx

Need money to go to war. We already spent our war tokens. We will be watching this one from the side lines.

We can just print more. We did it for Wall Street. War is much more profitable.

[Paul Markham]

Should of left Saddam in power. He would of never allowed Iran to have Nuclear weapons. Or Iran would of used them on Iraq.

[Davy]

How can the US afford another war? Maybe they should better start to reduce the bubble that they and all industrial nations are built on and that will sooner or later burst in a giant mess...

[DaddyHalbucks]

It's going to get crazier in a crazy part of the world.

[IllTestYourGirls]

Penn Jillette said it best

When I disagree with Obama, people always say, "Well, you're a big Bush guy then." And I'm like no, I didn't like Bush either. I disagree with Bush and Obama on all the stuff they agree on, which is pretty much everything. They both want to kill people, they both want the government to be bigger, and they both want less freedom for individuals.

[crazytrini85]

My cousin sent us am email from Afghanistan last week saying they are preparing US troops now on the Iran border. He didn't say they have any plans but wanted us to know he was heading out to the border and rumors were circulating and he would not be in contact again for some time.

I'm thinking Iran is finally about to be liberated.

[IllTestYourGirls]

On what fucking grounds are we going to march in on Iran?

[crazytrini85]

Originally Posted by Davy

How can the US afford another war?

1) Print more money.
2) Borrow it.

Either way, when it's said and done the nation will be so far under water your grandchildren's grandchildren will be born into slavery, unless it bankrupts the country first and ends up like Greece.

The USA walks on think ice. While war is very profitable, it will be private companies who see that profit.

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

On what fucking grounds are we going to march in on Iran?

Really? Just pick one... does it matter? Make something up. WMDs or terrorists or whatever... since when have we ever needed an actual reason to invade any damn where we please?

[Sly]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

On what fucking grounds are we going to march in on Iran?

Freedom Fries would be the most logical after the Green Movement.

[mayabong]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

the resources aren't there, our troops are already spread thin throughout iraq and afghanistan. our commanders know this, they boil it down to numbers + historical data = statistical outcome. we would have to draw down troops elsewhere and redeploy them to iran, so if we ever do invade iran, we'd at least have an early warning vis a vis our troops not already deployed.

Although you're right, I think they're gonna do it anyways. This oil spill is a perfect distraction.

I like Iran's president actually, he speaks more truth than any us president in recent times. Sorry to see that he's gonna be attacked for no reason.

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

Really? Just pick one... does it matter? Make something up. WMDs or terrorists or whatever... since when have we ever needed an actual reason to invade any damn where we please?

Statement of Congressman Ron Paul

United States House of Representatives

What If?

February 12, 2009

What if we wake up one day and realize that the terrorist threat is a predictable consequence of our meddling in the affairs of others?

What if propping up repressive regimes in the Middle East endangers both the United States and Israel?

What if occupying countries like Iraq and Afghanistan ? and bombing Pakistan ? is directly related to the hatred directed toward us and has nothing to do with being free and prosperous?

What if someday it dawns on us that losing over 5,000 American military personnel in the Middle East since 9/11 is not a fair trade-off for the loss of nearly 3,000 American citizens, no matter how many Iraqi, Pakistani, and Afghan people are killed or displaced?

What if we finally decide that torture, even if called ?enhanced interrogation techniques,? is self-destructive and produces no useful information ? and that contracting it out to a third world nation is just as evil?

What if it is finally realized that war and military spending is always destructive to the economy?

What if all wartime spending is paid for through the deceitful and evil process of inflating and borrowing?

What if we finally see that wartime conditions always undermine personal liberty?

What if conservatives, who preach small government, wake up and realize that our interventionist foreign policy provides the greatest incentive to expand the government?

What if conservatives understood once again that their only logical position is to reject military intervention and managing an empire throughout the world?

What if the American people woke up and understood that the official reasons for going to war are almost always based on lies and promoted by war propaganda in order to serve special interests?

What if we as a nation came to realize that the quest for empire eventually destroys all great nations?

What if Obama has no intention of leaving Iraq?

What if a military draft is being planned for the wars that will spread if our foreign policy is not changed?

What if the American people learn the truth: that our foreign policy has nothing to do with national security and that it never changes from one administration to the next?

What if war and preparation for war is a racket serving the special interests?

What if President Obama is completely wrong about Afghanistan and it turns out worse than Iraq and Vietnam put together?

What if Christianity actually teaches peace and not preventive wars of aggression?

What if diplomacy is found to be superior to bombs and bribes in protecting America?

What happens if my concerns are completely unfounded ? nothing!

What happens if my concerns are justified and ignored ? nothing good!

[Ace_luffy]

this will be not good ....

[seeandsee]

is there be a nuke war? to clean us from this beautiful planet

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by mayabong

Although you're right, I think they're gonna do it anyways. This oil spill is a perfect distraction.

I like Iran's president actually, he speaks more truth than any us president in recent times. Sorry to see that he's gonna be attacked for no reason.

what oil spill? i was noticing today & yesterday it's already losing news coverage by the majors.

[mayabong]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

what oil spill? i was noticing today & yesterday it's already losing news coverage by the majors.

I think there will be some sort of evacuation.

Anyways here's a letter from castro about the coming war, take it for what its worth.

http://www.cuba.cu/gobierno/reflexio.../f270610i.html

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by mayabong

I think there will be some sort of evacuation.

Anyways here's a letter from castro about the coming war, take it for what its worth.

http://www.cuba.cu/gobierno/reflexio.../f270610i.html

evacuation of the news? i was thinking, it was actually dropped even earlier, the sunday morning news shows reported the news about it but it was not a roundtable topic- a clear sign the interest is waning, imo.

Reflections by comrade Fidel, nice! never been sent a link like that, heheh. i had a hard time reading it though, basically shit will hit the fan before the 2nd phase of the world cup soccer finals? is that the gist of it?

[cwd]

N Korea is sooooooo lucky they don't have any resources the US wants.

[mayabong]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

evacuation of the news? i was thinking, it was actually dropped even earlier, the sunday morning news shows reported the news about it but it was not a roundtable topic- a clear sign the interest is waning, imo.

Reflections by comrade Fidel, nice! never been sent a link like that, heheh. i had a hard time reading it though, basically shit will hit the fan before the 2nd phase of the world cup soccer finals? is that the gist of it?

No, evacuation of the coast crazy ass. Some of my friends and family are already leaving.

[mayabong]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

evacuation of the news? i was thinking, it was actually dropped even earlier, the sunday morning news shows reported the news about it but it was not a roundtable topic- a clear sign the interest is waning, imo.

Reflections by comrade Fidel, nice! never been sent a link like that, heheh. i had a hard time reading it though, basically shit will hit the fan before the 2nd phase of the world cup soccer finals? is that the gist of it?

I don't know I had a hard time reading it too lol

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by mayabong

No, evacuation of the coast crazy ass. Some of my friends and family are already leaving.

doh, i'm loaded up on caffeine&thc!

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

the u.s won't be a real part of it, our commanders in charge are smart enough to know not to engage in 3 wars at the same time, also, the resources simply are not there.

Lies. Lies lies lies lies.

Do the math. Figure out how many men (and women) we have in Iraq and Afghanistan. It sounds like a staggering number.

There's currently less than 100k in Iraq. There is 94k in Afighanistan. So figure like 200k troops total.

Then figure the US Marines, the smallest branch, has some 400k members. Do the math. If we need to deploy two hundred thousand troops into Iran, we can. Not to mention we already have the infrastructure - Iran is surrounded by GASP Iraq and Afghanistan.... And all of our troops there.

Trust me, if we needed to.... We could place millions of troops into another country if given enough time.

[mayabong]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Lies. Lies lies lies lies.

Do the math. Figure out how many men (and women) we have in Iraq and Afghanistan. It sounds like a staggering number.

There's currently less than 100k in Iraq. There is 94k in Afighanistan. So figure like 200k troops total.

Then figure the US Marines, the smallest branch, has some 400k members. Do the math. If we need to deploy two hundred thousand troops into Iran, we can. Not to mention we already have the infrastructure - Iran is surrounded by GASP Iraq and Afghanistan.... And all of our troops there.

Trust me, if we needed to.... We could place millions of troops into another country if given enough time.

America is in every single country surrounding iran from what I see.

[JFK]

Originally Posted by Sly

Iraqananistan.

[mayabong]

No matter what you think about iran, this war will shoot gas prices sky high in the US

[GregE]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

On what fucking grounds are we going to march in on Iran?

Fear of potential Iranian nuclear blackmail in the region methinks.

Of course, this might well be a more compelling reason.

As I recall, Shrub didn't take too kindly to Saddam pulling the same stunt back in '03.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Lies. Lies lies lies lies.

Do the math. Figure out how many men (and women) we have in Iraq and Afghanistan. It sounds like a staggering number.

There's currently less than 100k in Iraq. There is 94k in Afighanistan. So figure like 200k troops total.

Then figure the US Marines, the smallest branch, has some 400k members. Do the math. If we need to deploy two hundred thousand troops into Iran, we can. Not to mention we already have the infrastructure - Iran is surrounded by GASP Iraq and Afghanistan.... And all of our troops there.

Trust me, if we needed to.... We could place millions of troops into another country if given enough time.

if you want to boil troop deployment statistics down to # of troop deployed compared to total troops, you begin by oversimplifying the statistics. dwell ratios, european deployments, homeland security deployments, deployment time used, cooks, supply chain resources, adminstrative staff,etc are all MAJOR factors. i won't sit here and claim i understand it, but to say it's as simple as you describe is way off.

[BFT3K]

Originally Posted by GregE

Fear of potential Iranian nuclear blackmail in the region methinks.

Of course, this might well be a more compelling reason.

As I recall, Shrub didn't take too kindly to Saddam pulling the same stunt back in '03.

Interesting stuff right there.

[BFT3K]

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