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SetTheWorldonFire · 01-03-2003, 02:39 AM

I'm gonna start messing with video now. as always I have my favorite tools for mastering. I just can't make up mind on a video editor. Post your experiences with these.... good and bad.

Premiere: http://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/main.html

Vegas Video: http://sonicfoundry.com/support/Supp...0&Family=Vegas

High Quality · 01-03-2003, 02:44 AM

Premiere was easy for me to learn. Never used Vegas video but recommend Premiere.

RedShoe · 01-03-2003, 02:47 AM

I use VV and I love it. I hear it's pretty simple to use and for me it was easy to pick up and learn. I've read a lot of reviews and they all pretty much say that if you compare the two that VV has a few more key features which gives it the upper hand.

However, I'm an avid fan of Adobe products, it's just that at the time VV was purchased for me and I learned it really fast.

I've cut all the CollegeFuckFest movies, and trailers with it.

trailer1

trailer2

I need to learn compression a little better, but I'm getting there.

edit* one of the reasons we got VV was because it can open and edit WMV files. The only people that complain about us using WMV files are webmasters. Mainly because they can't re-edit our material. The members don't mind, and most of them have the latest software to watch them, and if not they gladly download it from the links inside CFF.

I wanted to compress in Mpeg2 but I can't seem to keep quality and get the file size down. If I don't compress the video, it looks awesome, but is about 5 - 6 times larger than WMV. If I compress the video, it looks like shit. and is still larger.

so far WMV is the only format that we can keep super small in file size, and still maintain quality. (of course our trailers are compressed more for file size, and load time)

cheekycherry · 01-03-2003, 02:49 AM

I could never get Premiere to export video properly, it always skippid in places...

If you are looking for a solid cheap piece of software that isnt very flexible but works great and you'll pick up literally in 5 minutes, I recommend Pinnacle Studio 8.

Oliver Klozov · 01-03-2003, 02:57 AM

3 words............Final Cut Pro

SetTheWorldonFire · 01-03-2003, 03:01 AM

Thanks High Quality and RedShoe

cheekycherry: the reason I only want feedback on only those two is because I need to use something that will keep updating. I only like fucking with the best. thanks tho.

Oliver Klozov: 2 words.... fuck macs

Centurion · 01-03-2003, 03:04 AM

Vegas Video by Sonic Foundry is by far superior to premiere in terms of understanding what you are doing editing wise.
It also offers you more options (as in wmv) than premiere does.
I think it's a tad bit more stable than Premiere too (premiere is a mass memory hog).

Vegas Video & it's smaller brother Video Factory have some nice plug ins including Main Actors new mpeg codec that does an incredible job in encoding mpeg files. It's also one of the fastest encoders (software wise) that I've seen.

I truly don't think you'd be sorry going with Vegas Video.

beemk · 01-03-2003, 03:10 AM

anyone have the warez version of vegas video?

beemk · 01-03-2003, 03:11 AM

so i can try it out of course....

Tornado · 01-03-2003, 03:14 AM

I personally use Premiere...its what i was taught. I love it! I keep hearing a buzz about FCP tho. Might have to chekc it out. But if you think linearly then Premiere is the one for ya.

RedShoe · 01-03-2003, 03:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SetTheWorldonFire
Thanks High Quality and RedShoe

cheekycherry: the reason I only want feedback on only those two is because I need to use something that will keep updating. I only like fucking with the best. thanks tho.

Oliver Klozov: 2 words.... fuck macs

heh, fuck macs. LOL
I used to use a mac everyday. I'll never go back to Mac again. I was blinded by their pretty colors, and "ease of use" (yeah right).

http://thetechnozone.com/videobuyers...gasVideo3.html

LOL, this doesn't recommend Premiere, and it kinda digs on mac a little by telling them what they miss out on. http://thetechnozone.com/videobuyers...Premiere6.html

Final Cut pro review http://thetechnozone.com/videobuyers...alCutPro2.html

Morgan · 01-03-2003, 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RedShoe

heh, fuck macs. LOL
I used to use a mac everyday. I'll never go back to Mac again. I was blinded by their pretty colors, and "ease of use" (yeah right).

http://thetechnozone.com/videobuyers...gasVideo3.html

LOL, this doesn't recommend Premiere, and it kinda digs on mac a little by telling them what they miss out on. http://thetechnozone.com/videobuyers...Premiere6.html

Final Cut pro review http://thetechnozone.com/videobuyers...alCutPro2.html

Yup V V rules all.

SetTheWorldonFire · 01-03-2003, 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ganjasaurus

Yup V V rules all.

dam skippy dippy!

I just installed it a couple minutes ago and thanks to RedShoe. I can start busting out screen caps and cut up movies.

Vegas Videos rocks!

Sassyass · 01-03-2003, 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Centurion
Vegas Video by Sonic Foundry is by far superior to premiere in terms of understanding what you are doing editing wise.
It also offers you more options (as in wmv) than premiere does.
I think it's a tad bit more stable than Premiere too (premiere is a mass memory hog).

Vegas Video & it's smaller brother Video Factory have some nice plug ins including Main Actors new mpeg codec that does an incredible job in encoding mpeg files. It's also one of the fastest encoders (software wise) that I've seen.

I truly don't think you'd be sorry going with Vegas Video.

Premiere offers an advanced wmv compiler.
It is not the easiest piece of software to learn, but, neither is Photoshop. Pinnacle studio is a good product, easier to learn but not as many options. So are the tools that come with DVStorm, but again, not as many options.

Mutt · 01-03-2003, 04:34 AM

i saw that guy at the mall, doing the same thing, he'd walk slowly at first then jog in a circle, over and over. I told mall security, cops and an ambulance showed up and took him away.

Sassyass · 01-03-2003, 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RedShoe
I use VV and I love it. I hear it's pretty simple to use and for me it was easy to pick up and learn. I've read a lot of reviews and they all pretty much say that if you compare the two that VV has a few more key features which gives it the upper hand.

However, I'm an avid fan of Adobe products, it's just that at the time VV was purchased for me and I learned it really fast.

I've cut all the CollegeFuckFest movies, and trailers with it.

trailer1

trailer2

I need to learn compression a little better, but I'm getting there.

edit* one of the reasons we got VV was because it can open and edit WMV files. The only people that complain about us using WMV files are webmasters. Mainly because they can't re-edit our material. The members don't mind, and most of them have the latest software to watch them, and if not they gladly download it from the links inside CFF.

I wanted to compress in Mpeg2 but I can't seem to keep quality and get the file size down. If I don't compress the video, it looks awesome, but is about 5 - 6 times larger than WMV. If I compress the video, it looks like shit. and is still larger.

so far WMV is the only format that we can keep super small in file size, and still maintain quality. (of course our trailers are compressed more for file size, and load time)

DO you have Cleaner?
That might help you with your compression troubles. Also there are some great papers on line that will help with how to compress mpegs down to decent web size with out losing major quality. Give me a holler if you want to test cleaner

Centurion · 01-03-2003, 04:58 PM

I have media cleaner 5.0..it's AWESOME..except for one thing.
It is the SLOWEST encoder on record! Geez..any idea why it is so durn slow? Even if I don't use the "slowest, better quality" encoding option and go with "standard, less qualitY", on a pentium 4, it creeps along when encoding. (speaking of mpeg here).

01-03-2003, 02:39 AM	#1
SetTheWorldonFire Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: California Posts: 7,444	Adobe Premiere or Vegas Video I'm gonna start messing with video now. as always I have my favorite tools for mastering. I just can't make up mind on a video editor. Post your experiences with these.... good and bad. Premiere: http://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/main.html Vegas Video: http://sonicfoundry.com/support/Supp...0&Family=Vegas __________________ www.STWOFDesign.com hit me up on icq 154206276 or Skype: JaimeGizzle

01-03-2003, 02:47 AM	#3
RedShoe 赤い靴 call me 202-456-1111 Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The Valley Posts: 14,831	I use VV and I love it. I hear it's pretty simple to use and for me it was easy to pick up and learn. I've read a lot of reviews and they all pretty much say that if you compare the two that VV has a few more key features which gives it the upper hand. However, I'm an avid fan of Adobe products, it's just that at the time VV was purchased for me and I learned it really fast. I've cut all the CollegeFuckFest movies, and trailers with it. trailer1 trailer2 I need to learn compression a little better, but I'm getting there. edit* one of the reasons we got VV was because it can open and edit WMV files. The only people that complain about us using WMV files are webmasters. Mainly because they can't re-edit our material. The members don't mind, and most of them have the latest software to watch them, and if not they gladly download it from the links inside CFF. I wanted to compress in Mpeg2 but I can't seem to keep quality and get the file size down. If I don't compress the video, it looks awesome, but is about 5 - 6 times larger than WMV. If I compress the video, it looks like shit. and is still larger. so far WMV is the only format that we can keep super small in file size, and still maintain quality. (of course our trailers are compressed more for file size, and load time) __________________ SPECIALTY COSTUMES • PROPS • FX Superheroes • Monsters • Robots PM for details For any manufacturing needs. Adult or otherwise. aka BonsHigh on Insta Bonsai weed plants Last edited by RedShoe; 01-03-2003 at 02:53 AM..

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01-03-2003, 03:01 AM	#6
SetTheWorldonFire Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: California Posts: 7,444	Thanks High Quality and RedShoe cheekycherry: the reason I only want feedback on only those two is because I need to use something that will keep updating. I only like fucking with the best. thanks tho. Oliver Klozov: 2 words.... fuck macs __________________ www.STWOFDesign.com hit me up on icq 154206276 or Skype: JaimeGizzle

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beemk CLICK HERE Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 20,829	anyone have the warez version of vegas video? __________________ I host with Vacares

01-03-2003, 02:44 AM	#2
High Quality Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 5,741	Premiere was easy for me to learn. Never used Vegas video but recommend Premiere.

01-03-2003, 02:49 AM	#4
cheekycherry Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: N/A Posts: 1,703	I could never get Premiere to export video properly, it always skippid in places... If you are looking for a solid cheap piece of software that isnt very flexible but works great and you'll pick up literally in 5 minutes, I recommend Pinnacle Studio 8.

01-03-2003, 03:04 AM	#7
Centurion Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: SeATtle Posts: 6,033	Vegas Video by Sonic Foundry is by far superior to premiere in terms of understanding what you are doing editing wise. It also offers you more options (as in wmv) than premiere does. I think it's a tad bit more stable than Premiere too (premiere is a mass memory hog). Vegas Video & it's smaller brother Video Factory have some nice plug ins including Main Actors new mpeg codec that does an incredible job in encoding mpeg files. It's also one of the fastest encoders (software wise) that I've seen. I truly don't think you'd be sorry going with Vegas Video.

01-03-2003, 03:11 AM	#9
beemk CLICK HERE Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 20,829	so i can try it out of course.... __________________ I host with Vacares

01-03-2003, 03:14 AM	#10
Tornado Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 287	I personally use Premiere...its what i was taught. I love it! I keep hearing a buzz about FCP tho. Might have to chekc it out. But if you think linearly then Premiere is the one for ya.

01-03-2003, 04:34 AM	#15
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	i saw that guy at the mall, doing the same thing, he'd walk slowly at first then jog in a circle, over and over. I told mall security, cops and an ambulance showed up and took him away. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

01-03-2003, 04:58 PM	#17
Centurion Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: SeATtle Posts: 6,033	I have media cleaner 5.0..it's AWESOME..except for one thing. It is the SLOWEST encoder on record! Geez..any idea why it is so durn slow? Even if I don't use the "slowest, better quality" encoding option and go with "standard, less qualitY", on a pentium 4, it creeps along when encoding. (speaking of mpeg here).