So ImLive stole all of the camgirls from iFriends?

[Ninja Scripts]

I must say they deserve it. They were busting their ass to gain market share when I was big into cams, never really pushed them but damn they are looking great. iFriends seems to have gone to shit, 100 people online? lol

[Randy West]

I see 289 girls online.

[Ninja Scripts]

I was exaggerating a bit. There are 800+ on ImLive right now and 300ish on iFriends. That is amazing to me, it's been awhile. Their cam feeds load ultra fast as well. Good stuff ImLive, know who to push in the future.

[lazycash]

You've been out of the game for quite a while, Imlive may have girls, but they are one of the worst converting. Most girls work multiple networks simultaneously.

[Ninja Scripts]

Originally Posted by lazycash

You've been out of the game for quite a while, Imlive may have girls, but they are one of the worst converting. Most girls work multiple networks simultaneously.

I have no reason not to believe you but I watched a few of the hotter girls on their free video shows and pretty much all of them got a paying customer eventually. I also checked my stats and see my downline has been banging out some sales, too bad my address was a few years old as well!

I have been out of the game somewhat, I left my stuff online and worked on it some over the years but did nothing to attempt to stay in the loop. I have some catching up to do it seems.

[lazycash]

I'm sure you remember Mtree.com, they still convert. Not sure when you left, Streamray eventually became cams.com and is now part of AFF. AWE probably has the most girls online, but I wouldn't recommend promoting them. Webcams.com is decent and Videosecrets is still alive. Ever since you left, clickcash continued going down hill until this last year when they finally revamped their sites and added a bunch of webmaster tools as well as started making a presence on the boards. One of Clickcash's biggest affiliates from back when you promoted them posts here under Will76.

[pradaboy]

I agree with lazycash, pussycash and awe are the worst converting for me. Mtree does ok.

[Ninja Scripts]

Originally Posted by lazycash

I'm sure you remember Mtree.com, they still convert. Not sure when you left, Streamray eventually became cams.com and is now part of AFF. AWE probably has the most girls online, but I wouldn't recommend promoting them. Webcams.com is decent and Videosecrets is still alive. Ever since you left, clickcash continued going down hill until this last year when they finally revamped their sites and added a bunch of webmaster tools as well as started making a presence on the boards. One of Clickcash's biggest affiliates from back when you promoted them posts here under Will76.

I remember Mtree, I always did well with them but they paid for crap when I was big into things.

I've been told of various things about cams.com, / Streamray. Seems Lars did OK for himself although I'm reading now that he didn't get all his money?

I wouldn't promote AWE if they offered to visit my house and do all of the work for me. I'm not into limited cookies and smart asses claiming that it's perfectly OK.

I see the new clickcash site but their board rep won't tell me what a qualified signup is. Is Stacy still around over there?

I've been told of Will76 as well, did some investigating and he was a Yahoo spammer using disallowed join pages. I have no problem with that but he was putting on some kind of front about being this brilliant mind in the webcam world and that sets off my bullshit detector. I was one of the biggest affiliates from back in the day as well. I was in their stupid showcase and got robbed a billion times, even got a page (and counter) ripped my MrPheer himself. Thanks for the props motorcycle riding, p1pmdogg hating, chat spamming dude!

Man it's been a long time. I probably never would have left if sleazy didn't shit all over my profile for kicks. Someone told me he ran into some problems later on but I'll have to look into all of that. No hard feelings either way.

I remember your name but do not remember what you did / do. I'm sure it will come back eventually.

Bring back the old school!

[Mr Pheer]

nevermind

[lazycash]

Sleazy took a hiatus from adult from 2007-09 to try his offline ventures and he ended up pissing away all his money and had to file bankruptcy. He still has his ancient tgp and is trying to make it in adult again but his recent attempt yessignals.com was a big flop. Mr Pheer still posts here under the nick Jackie Lantern, not sure if he's still promoting AFF with his bots.

[Mr Pheer]

Originally Posted by lazycash

Sleazy took a hiatus from adult from 2007-09 to try his offline ventures and he ended up pissing away all his money and had to file bankruptcy. He still has his ancient tgp and is trying to make it in adult again but his recent attempt yessignals.com was a big flop. Mr Pheer still posts here under the nick Jackie Lantern, not sure if he's still promoting AFF with his bots.

I'm pretty much fucking retired from adult, whats left of it runs on autopilot and I'm only here tonight because I'm bored. Which is why I said nevermind, I simply dont care.

And you're right about one thing.. you dont know shit about what I'm doing
And it will stay that way.

[Ninja Scripts]

Originally Posted by Jackie Lantern

nevermind

Originally Posted by Jackie Lantern

I'm pretty much fucking retired from adult, whats left of it runs on autopilot and I'm only here tonight because I'm bored. Which is why I said nevermind, I simply dont care.

And you're right about one thing.. you dont know shit about what I'm doing
And it will stay that way.

I wasn't trying to start anything, I figured it was well known what you do. I remember your picture of 40 or 50 computers on a bad ass shelving system way back when. I hit Yahoo as well (broke it even) but never chat. I only got up to 30 computers too, I was jealous.

Cheers

[lazycash]

Originally Posted by Jackie Lantern

I'm pretty much fucking retired from adult, whats left of it runs on autopilot and I'm only here tonight because I'm bored. Which is why I said nevermind, I simply dont care.

And you're right about one thing.. you dont know shit about what I'm doing
And it will stay that way.

Great, yeah I see a few of your sites still get some traffic, I'm sure you're still getting some nice AFF residuals. Why the nick change?

[Ninja Scripts]

Originally Posted by lazycash

Great, yeah I see a few of your sites still get some traffic, I'm sure you're still getting some nice AFF residuals. Why the nick change?

http://yessignals.com/Seduction.html

This is fucking ridiculous.

[lazycash]

Originally Posted by Ninja Scripts

http://yessignals.com/Seduction.html

This is fucking ridiculous.

Lol, yeah Sleazy thought that was gonna be huge hit when he launched it six months ago on his shoestring budget. I bet it hasn't even seen double digit sales yet in six months.

[Ninja Scripts]

I'm still laughing over here, that was the worst video / premise / landing page I've seen in fucking forever. The more things change the more they stay the same.

[maxxtro]

lol hehe

[minniesoporno]

Both websites aren't really on the top list for sites to work on, ifriends has so many security problems that I am sure the only reason they have girls on the site it's because they work in studios and the they don't know there is something better out there.

imlive has its own set of problems, but they do find ways to fancy them up. but its not like your seeing girls out there rushing to work on them. if they were on imlive from the start they will keep their regulars but generally they are working on a more profitable site.

[ArsewithClass]

Originally Posted by Ninja Scripts

I must say they deserve it. They were busting their ass to gain market share when I was big into cams, never really pushed them but damn they are looking great. iFriends seems to have gone to shit, 100 people online? lol

We do live camshows, you find most of the camgirls flick from 1 site to another. The girls probably shall be back on ifriends in another month or so.

[cherrylula]

nah, ifriends probably has more quality girls on regularly, it has always been that way regardless of what anyone says or thinks. Some of their top girls have stuck with them for years and years, because they make the most money there hands down. They have a lot of haters though, for sure. Especially since they termed so many people who've cheated them over the years.

[ArsewithClass]

[QUOTE=minniesoporno;17342501]Both websites aren't really on the top list for sites to work onQUOTE]

Agreed, there are so many girls on the site. I suppose this makes it great for affiliates but not so good for the performer.

moocash

For both affiliates & performers

[Ethersync]

iFriends died for a couple reasons....

1) Until very recently they only offered paper check payments. This is not convenient at all for most of their models who reside outside of the US. Even not they still do not offer ePassporte or Wire payments.

2) ImLive pays models 1 day after the period ends. With iFriends models had to wait months to get paid. It takes 2-6 weeks for a check to arrive and 4 to 6 weeks for a foreign bank to release the funds. Now they offer their own webpower branded debit card which I suppose is better, but they need to suck it up and offer wires or epassporte.

3) The paperwork involved with registering to be a model or studio is way too complicated and confusing. It is also not convenient at all to have to physically mail back each contract to iFriends. Many sites now, including ImLive, use digital signatures and there is nothing to print and sign at all. Very few sites require anything to be sent by postal mail now.

4) iFriends years ago cut the percentages models were being paid dramatically and made a weird 2 tier system where exclusive models got paid more than other models got paid less. Obviously it failed also because models fled from the site like it was a on fire.

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass

Agreed, there are so many girls on the site. I suppose this makes it great for affiliates but not so good for the performer.

moocash

For both affiliates & performers

You can not be serious

[Sabby]

I work on both... both are great...

You have a nude or go free option.. so guys who want a show will pay if you are available..

If your not wanting to chat with "TITS ASS PUSSY NOW FREE"... Just go in nude... they know and love you and they just want to get off...


Sabby

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by Sabby

I work on both... both are great...

You have a nude or go free option.. so guys who want a show will pay if you are available..

If your not wanting to chat with "TITS ASS PUSSY NOW FREE"... Just go in nude... they know and love you and they just want to get off...


Sabby

Did you do your IQ test like you promised Sabby?

[Sabby]

Originally Posted by Ethersync

Did you do your IQ test like you promised Sabby?

not yet.


Sabby

[candyflip]

Have you seen MyFreeCams.com J?

[Ninja Scripts]

Originally Posted by minniesoporno

Both websites aren't really on the top list for sites to work on, ifriends has so many security problems that I am sure the only reason they have girls on the site it's because they work in studios and the they don't know there is something better out there.

imlive has its own set of problems, but they do find ways to fancy them up. but its not like your seeing girls out there rushing to work on them. if they were on imlive from the start they will keep their regulars but generally they are working on a more profitable site.

Damn girl, I recognize you just from your ifriends pictures. I went through a LOT of ifriends pictures. (This could be from all the way back in the early 2000's).

[Ninja Scripts]

Originally Posted by candyflip

Have you seen MyFreeCams.com J?

Someone linked me to it awhile back but I didn't investigate too far into it. I sold off all of my webcam sites a few years ago and even sold off my downlines that were earning me money. It's hard to stay excited about something when you don't have time to do it right, especially when you watch everyone else do it so wrong. ;)