Google does not penalize for duplicate content - GoFuckYourself.com

cambaby · 07-22-2010, 10:23 AM

Otherwise every single syndicated news website on the internet would get no Google traffic, CNN, Yahoo News, etc all of these websites and even smaller hometown news websites obviously dont get penalized. Im not saying there is no penalization at all but theres gotta be some wiggle room... thoughts?

BestXXXPorn · 07-22-2010, 10:27 AM

It's simply a factor... I'm sure it's included in their algorithm :P

Nicky · 07-22-2010, 10:27 AM

I have found that It matters more in porn than mainstream, especially news.

ALso these news and portal sites have many visitors, low bouncerate and usually massive backlinks.

cambaby · 07-22-2010, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BestXXXPorn

It's simply a factor... I'm sure it's included in their algorithm :P

Obviously not a very big one

Agent 488 · 07-22-2010, 10:28 AM

if you are cnn, no. the rest of us, yes.

cambaby · 07-22-2010, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicky

I have found that It matters more in porn than mainstream, especially news.

Now this is what Im talking about, thank you for that insight, one of my mainstream sites has a news feed and I was worried about it affecting google rankings but so far no change.

fatfoo · 07-22-2010, 10:32 AM

Some dictionaries say there is more than 500,000 words in the English language. I think it's possible to create less duplicate content. It difficult to learn all the words.

Babaganoosh · 07-22-2010, 10:33 AM

The duplicate content penalty never has existed. It's a persistent myth spread by self-proclaimed SEO experts. The fools that tell you duplicate content penalties exist are the same fools that will try to convince you that pagerank matters.

sortie · 07-22-2010, 10:38 AM

Google does act quick if you redirect a domain though.

It took less than 30 hours for google to make one of my domains disappear.

Dirty Dane · 07-22-2010, 11:41 AM

It's opposite than "penalize". The first/original site is "awarded" by its publish time.

Same with single keywords. For instance, if you are among the first to promote a new keyword in this industry, like a new domain name, you will likely get some good positions for some time at Google index.

To maintain the position you need the relevance factor. Like backlinks and deeplinks. Yahoo, CNN etc. are credited with source links and that's why they get good position(s).

Many SEO "experts" tend to forget how important speed is. Just like breaking news is a sale factor, you can't duplicate publish time (google cache) and that's the "backdoor" into the algorithm. No matter how good writer and SEO "friendly" you are, you will lose attention and money if you can't "be the first" and take advantage of it into the peaks. No one can predict real world news, but there is always a time gap between knowledge and publish. In this industry, that depends on how close business relationships you have. And there are other ways, which I'm not going to post here

Cash · 07-22-2010, 01:10 PM

It's not penalized, but maybe you don't get good rankings. Probably, if you have many pages within a website with duplicate content, you get penalized. But, Google makes the difference between normal duplicate content, such as news, tourist offers, product specifications in e-shops, etc., and for example porn duplicate content.

PornMD · 07-22-2010, 01:42 PM

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Google does not penalize for duplicate content

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Originally Posted by cambaby

Im not saying there is no penalization at all

cambaby · 07-22-2010, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by PornMD

Trolled.

UFGators2007 · 07-22-2010, 01:56 PM

Anyone have any real life experience of traffic/rank changes after removing duplicates, or SEOing duplicates?

What about white labels and their main sites? If you look at the image source, many of these sites point to the "parent" / non skin site.

icymelon · 07-22-2010, 05:33 PM

my personal opinion is that if you duplicate it once no big deal. duplicate it twice not really an issue. but then as it gets duplicate more it gets less authority or considered less relevant.

Also the site duplicating it is an issue. If freeones ran rss feeds its going to considered more significant there than if you crappy blog runs it.

Deej · 07-22-2010, 05:39 PM

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Trolled.

thats not trolled, thats an ironic observation, because i too laughed... i still read on, but the initial statement hit me with awkwardness

trolling constitutes repeat offenses...

Highest Def · 07-22-2010, 05:40 PM

Penalized is the wrong word, but if you search google and go through the first 10 or 20 pages, you will see this message..

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In order to show you the most relevant results, we have omitted some entries very similar to the 794 already displayed.
If you like, you can repeat the search with the omitted results included.

Duplicate content doesn't get you eliminated, just pushed WAYYYY back.

PornMD · 07-22-2010, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Deej

thats not trolled, thats an ironic observation, because i too laughed... i still read on, but the initial statement hit me with awkwardness

trolling constitutes repeat offenses...

Simply put, his post is bullshit. Google omits "similar" results and he himself indicated it's a factor even if it's a small one. Citing monstrous authority news sites like CNN to say dupe content contains no penalty was just silly. So you mean Google doesn't penalize some of the oldest most respected news orgs in the world for duplicate content? No shit? That's called COMMON SENSE. People expect to see those sites in the results - if they didn't, they would use a different search engine. Google's algorithm being complex is for the sole reason to put sites like those up high in results and fly-by-night sites not so high (for instance, sites that ONLY copy from others and have nothing else to offer, hence...*drumroll* dupe content penalties). Sometimes they fail, but for the most part they don't.

SEO is 99% common sense. What would your objective for search results in your search engine be if you were Google? Give people the results they're trying to find, right? What tactics would you use to fulfill that objective? Answer that and you're more of an SEO expert than most people claim to be.

I thought I'd forego all that with "

" but apparently the OP was butthurt with the irony I pointed out.

cambaby · 07-22-2010, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by PornMD

Simply put, his post is bullshit. Google omits "similar" results and he himself indicated it's a factor even if it's a small one. Citing monstrous authority news sites like CNN to say dupe content contains no penalty was just silly. So you mean Google doesn't penalize some of the oldest most respected news orgs in the world for duplicate content? No shit? That's called COMMON SENSE. People expect to see those sites in the results - if they didn't, they would use a different search engine. Google's algorithm being complex is for the sole reason to put sites like those up high in results and fly-by-night sites not so high (for instance, sites that ONLY copy from others and have nothing else to offer, hence...*drumroll* dupe content penalties). Sometimes they fail, but for the most part they don't.

SEO is 99% common sense. What would your objective for search results in your search engine be if you were Google? Give people the results they're trying to find, right? What tactics would you use to fulfill that objective? Answer that and you're more of an SEO expert than most people claim to be.

I thought I'd forego all that with "

" but apparently the OP was butthurt with the irony I pointed out.

No Google does not penalize for duplicate content, now please go and make more pages with duplicate content. Thank you that is all.

Agent 488 · 07-22-2010, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by PornMD

SEO is 99% common sense. What would your objective for search results in your search engine be if you were Google? Give people the results they're trying to find, right? What tactics would you use to fulfill that objective? Answer that and you're more of an SEO expert than most people claim to be.

https://encrypted.google.com/search?...D8N5a0Moqq0eML

grab a brain moran.

Deej · 07-22-2010, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by cambaby

No Google does not penalize for duplicate content, now please go and make more pages with duplicate content. Thank you that is all.

no offense but the statemen t was irnoic an dyou arent convincing thousands of people with a thred with absolutely no proof besides speculation.

Perhaps your right.,, but not only does numerous other sites and storeis claim otheriwise.... but so does your own post...

Dont get all bent out of shape... just refute with something solid.

Deej · 07-22-2010, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

grab a brain moran.

cambaby · 07-22-2010, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Deej

no offense but the statemen t was irnoic an dyou arent convincing thousands of people with a thred with absolutely no proof besides speculation.

Perhaps your right.,, but not only does numerous other sites and storeis claim otheriwise.... but so does your own post...

Dont get all bent out of shape... just refute with something solid.

Im not bent out of shape... there is a reason I am making a thread here like that. Thankfully not all of you are clueless. Move along thread over.

Deej · 07-22-2010, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by cambaby

Im not bent out of shape... there is a reason I am making a thread here like that. Thankfully not all of you are clueless. Move along thread over.

gotcha dog!

area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE · 07-22-2010, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by cambaby

Otherwise every single syndicated news website on the internet would get no Google traffic, CNN, Yahoo News, etc all of these websites and even smaller hometown news websites obviously dont get penalized. Im not saying there is no penalization at all but theres gotta be some wiggle room... thoughts?

Google should just hire you because you're so fucking smart

Barefootsies · 07-22-2010, 07:27 PM

Matt Cutts has spoke on this.

It depends on the type of site, and what is seen as an 'authority' type of thing.

To think a corporate America site is going to have to play by the same rules as a small fry affiliate marketer is insane in the membrane. It doesn't work like that.

cambaby · 07-22-2010, 07:30 PM

Keep making those pages boys!

Deej · 07-22-2010, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Matt Cutts has spoke on this.

It depends on the type of site, and what is seen as an 'authority' type of thing.

To think a corporate America site is going to have to play by the same rules as a small fry affiliate marketer is insane in the membrane. It doesn't work like that.

your logic exudes hate from from my pores...

Deej · 07-22-2010, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by cambaby

Keep making those pages boys!

the unduplicated ones?

Next you'll be saying that non duplicate content is penalized...

If your OP were true... youre not gaining anythign as the ones eliminating their dup cont are doing just fine without your help ...

truly... im boggled...

Deej · 07-22-2010, 07:35 PM

I really do wonder if people will change the methods out of laziness and heresay rather than results...

fris · 07-22-2010, 07:36 PM

not penazlied in any way, just doesnt get indexed

Deej · 07-22-2010, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by fris

not penazlied in any way, just doesnt get indexed

well, that itself has to be considered penalization unles sof course you only blog for hobby rather than gain...

Barefootsies · 07-22-2010, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Deej

your logic exudes hate from from my pores...

Deej · 07-22-2010, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

you shut your fucking mouth, that was a compliment and not a warrant for retaliation...

Barefootsies · 07-22-2010, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Deej

you shut your fucking mouth, that was a compliment and not a warrant for retaliation...

cambaby · 07-22-2010, 08:54 PM

ROFL loving it!

Relentless · 07-22-2010, 08:57 PM

1) Never believe anything Matt Cutts says. He works for the company that wants to stop you from gaming the system.

2) Original text absolutely matters. If you have exlusive, original text on a terrible site with infrequent updates it will not help you. It is one important factor, not the only factor.

3) You are not CNN, Yahoo, The New York Times, Huffington Post, CBS, NBC, ABC, FOX etc... and Search Engines are able to differentiate your blog from CNN or the BBC.

Barefootsies · 07-22-2010, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Relentless

You are not CNN, Yahoo, The New York Times, Huffington Post, CBS, NBC, ABC, FOX etc... and Search Engines are able to differentiate your blog from CNN or the BBC.

Deej · 07-22-2010, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

jimmy fllon is cool in my book ... even with his tie tucked...

so i will stay calm...

yabate · 07-22-2010, 10:28 PM

>>> JFGIT <<<

Lets see...

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Q: Do I have duplicate content? Am I being penalized for it? What should I do about it?
A: In most cases, having duplicate content on your site does not mean your site is penalized. Read this article right now. If you're still concerned or want to know more, read these articles (you're not the first person to ask about duplicate content!):

Sites.Google

Then....

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What is duplicate content?
Duplicate content generally refers to substantive blocks of content within or across domains that either completely match other content or are appreciably similar. Most of the time when we see this, it's unintentional or at least not malicious in origin: forums that generate both regular and stripped-down mobile-targeted pages, store items shown (and -- worse yet -- linked) via multiple distinct URLs, and so on. In some cases, content is duplicated across domains in an attempt to manipulate search engine rankings or garner more traffic via popular or long-tail queries.

What isn't duplicate content?
Though we do offer a handy translation utility, our algorithms won't view the same article written in English and Spanish as duplicate content. Similarly, you shouldn't worry about occasional snippets (quotes and otherwise) being flagged as duplicate content.

Why does Google care about duplicate content?
Our users typically want to see a diverse cross-section of unique content when they do searches. In contrast, they're understandably annoyed when they see substantially the same content within a set of search results. Also, webmasters become sad when we show a complex URL (example.com/contentredir?value=shorty-george〈=en) instead of the pretty URL they prefer (example.com/en/shorty-george.htm).

What does Google do about it?
During our crawling and when serving search results, we try hard to index and show pages with distinct information. This filtering means, for instance, that if your site has articles in "regular" and "printer" versions and neither set is blocked in robots.txt or via a noindex meta tag, we'll choose one version to list. In the rare cases in which we perceive that duplicate content may be shown with intent to manipulate our rankings and deceive our users, we'll also make appropriate adjustments in the indexing and ranking of the sites involved. However, we prefer to focus on filtering rather than ranking adjustments ... so in the vast majority of cases, the worst thing that'll befall webmasters is to see the "less desired" version of a page shown in our index.

Link to post and preventing methods

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Duplicate Content & Multiple Site Issues
More and more site owners are concerned that they might get penalized accidentally or overtly because of duplicate content. If you run mirror sites, will search engines ban you? If you have listings that are similar in nature, is that an issue? What happens if you syndicate content through RSS and feeds? Will other sites be considered the "real" site and rob you of a rightful place in the search results? This session looks at the issues and explores solutions.

Read about Agenda day and listen to speakers.

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Read this:
Duplicate Content & Multiple Site Issues
by Greg Grothaus
Engineer, Google Search Quality
August 12, 2009 - SES San Jose

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The Duplicate Content "Penalty" Myth
In order to show you the most relevant results, we have omitted some entries very similar to the 20 already displayed.
If you like, you can repeat the search with the omitted results included.
"my site is not returned unless I click on the "In order to show you the most relevant results...."

"sounds like you've triggered a filter which has caused Google to believe your site/page is of low quality"

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"I get this [message] when I do a site: search ... I'm worried that they [google] have omitted [my pages] as they see them as duplicate content ... and thus will penalize."
Duplicate content generally refers to... Mostly, this is not deceptive in origin. Examples of non-malicious duplicate content could include:

* Discussion forums that can generate both regular and stripped-down pages targeted at mobile devices
* Store items shown or linked via multiple distinct URLs
* Printer-only versions of web pages

Google tries hard to index and show pages with distinct information. This filtering means, for instance, that if your site has a "regular" and "printer" version of each article, and neither of these is blocked in robots.txt or with a noindex meta tag, we'll choose one of them to list*.
*per query

Read slides! And listen about duplicate content And read whole post

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Little or no original content

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One of the most important steps in improving your site's ranking in Google search results is to ensure that it contains plenty of rich information that includes relevant keywords, used appropriately, that indicate the subject matter of your content.

However, some webmasters attempt to improve their page's ranking and attract visitors by creating pages with many words but little or no authentic content. Google will take action against domains that try to rank more highly by just showing scraped or other auto-generated pages that don't add any value to users. Examples include:

* Thin affiliate sites: These sites collect pay-per-click (PPC) revenue by sending visitors to the sites of affiliate programs, while providing little or no value-added content or service to the user. These sites usually have no original content and may be cookie-cutter sites or templates with no unique content.
* Doorway pages: Pages created just for search engines
* Auto-generated content: Content generated programatically. Often this will consist of random paragraphs of text that make no sense to the reader but that may contain search keywords.
* Scraped content: Some webmasters make use of content taken from other, more reputable sites on the assumption that increasing the volume of web pages with random, irrelevant content is a good long-term strategy. Purely scraped content, even from high-quality sources, may not provide any added value to your users without additional useful services or content provided by your site. It's worthwhile to take the time to create original content that sets your site apart. This will keep your visitors coming back and will provide useful search results.

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Handling legitimate cross-domain content duplication<<<--

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yabate · 07-22-2010, 10:29 PM

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Let's put this to bed once and for all, folks: There's no such thing as a "duplicate content penalty." At least, not in the way most people mean when they say that.

There are some penalties that are related to the idea of having the same content as another site—for example, if you're scraping content from other sites and republishing it, or if you republish content without adding any additional value. These tactics are clearly outlined (and discouraged) in our Webmaster Guidelines:

* Don't create multiple pages, subdomains, or domains with substantially duplicate content.
* Avoid... "cookie cutter" approaches such as affiliate programs with little or no original content.
* If your site participates in an affiliate program, make sure that your site adds value. Provide unique and relevant content that gives users a reason to visit your site first.

(Note that while scraping content from others is discouraged, having others scrape you is a different story; check out this post if you're worried about being scraped.)

But most site owners whom I hear worrying about duplicate content aren't talking about scraping or domain farms; they're talking about things like having multiple URLs on the same domain that point to the same content. Like http://www.example.com/skates.asp?co...&brand=riedell and http://www.example.com/skates.asp?br...ll&color=black. Having this type of duplicate content on your site can potentially affect your site's performance, but it doesn't cause penalties. From our article on duplicate content:

Duplicate content on a site is not grounds for action on that site unless it appears that the intent of the duplicate content is to be deceptive and manipulate search engine results. If your site suffers from duplicate content issues, and you don't follow the advice listed above, we do a good job of choosing a version of the content to show in our search results.

This type of non-malicious duplication is fairly common, especially since many CMSs don't handle this well by default. So when people say that having this type of duplicate content can affect your site, it's not because you're likely to be penalized; it's simply due to the way that web sites and search engines work.

Most search engines strive for a certain level of variety; they want to show you ten different results on a search results page, not ten different URLs that all have the same content. To this end, Google tries to filter out duplicate documents so that users experience less redundancy. You can find details in this blog post, which states:

1. When we detect duplicate content, such as through variations caused by URL parameters, we group the duplicate URLs into one cluster.
2. We select what we think is the "best" URL to represent the cluster in search results.
3. We then consolidate properties of the URLs in the cluster, such as link popularity, to the representative URL.

Here's how this could affect you as a webmaster:

* In step 2, Google's idea of what the "best" URL is might not be the same as your idea. If you want to have control over whether http://www.example.com/skates.asp?co...&brand=riedell or http://www.example.com/skates.asp?br...ll&color=black gets shown in our search results, you may want to take action to mitigate your duplication. One way of letting us know which URL you prefer is by including the preferred URL in your Sitemap.
* In step 3, if we aren't able to detect all the duplicates of a particular page, we won't be able to consolidate all of their properties. This may dilute the strength of that content's ranking signals by splitting them across multiple URLs.

In most cases Google does a good job of handling this type of duplication. However, you may also want to consider content that's being duplicated across domains. In particular, deciding to build a site whose purpose inherently involves content duplication is something you should think twice about if your business model is going to rely on search traffic, unless you can add a lot of additional value for users. For example, we sometimes hear from Amazon.com affiliates who are having a hard time ranking for content that originates solely from Amazon. Is this because Google wants to stop them from trying to sell Everyone Poops? No; it's because how the heck are they going to outrank Amazon if they're providing the exact same listing? Amazon has a lot of online business authority (most likely more than a typical Amazon affiliate site does), and the average Google search user probably wants the original information on Amazon, unless the affiliate site has added a significant amount of additional value.

Lastly, consider the effect that duplication can have on your site's bandwidth. Duplicated content can lead to inefficient crawling: when Googlebot discovers ten URLs on your site, it has to crawl each of those URLs before it knows whether they contain the same content (and thus before we can group them as described above). The more time and resources that Googlebot spends crawling duplicate content across multiple URLs, the less time it has to get to the rest of your content.

Post from official google blog

etc..etc..

Sorry for two posts in a row, but post is limited on 10 000 chars.
Greetings

Jakez · 07-22-2010, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by fatfoo

Some dictionaries say there is more than 500,000 words in the English language. I think it's possible to create less duplicate content. It difficult to learn all the words.

So fucking annoying.

Supz · 07-22-2010, 11:01 PM

lol. who cares. i think more people get to yahoo, cnn, and every other news site by type in traffic more then google.

HighEnergy · 07-22-2010, 11:22 PM

Dupe content on the same domain name = not so good.
Dupe content on multiple domain names = OK.

@PornMD ...
You're just a kid who got lucky once, entirely due to the short lived Parking Panel escapade and an accidental lucky domain catch. You have NO idea what building, maintaining, or monetizing a web site is about. Go back to some domain forum where they might think you know something. *

This is a web master forum, and you simply don't qualify.

* Oh wait ...... none of them do!

PornMD · 07-23-2010, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by HighEnergy

@PornMD ...
You're just a kid who got lucky once, entirely due to the short lived Parking Panel escapade and an accidental lucky domain catch. You have NO idea what building, maintaining, or monetizing a web site is about. Go back to some domain forum where they might think you know something. *

This is a web master forum, and you simply don't qualify.

* Oh wait ...... none of them do!

First off, "got lucky once" (which I agree Poker.in was a lucky buy, albeit based on educated research/experience) != making a living selling domains, which is what I've been doing for almost 3 years now. I thought you knew that given you know so much about me.

Secondly, you're right, I don't run websites, I sell domains. However, if what I said was wrong, what part of it was wrong? How many SEO tactics are NOT tied to common sense when looking at things from the eyes of Google trying to maintain relevant authoritative results? SEO is all about using the things that Google's algorithm takes into account (and to a limited degree the other SE's) to get better rankings, and Google's intent with their algorithm is to have relevant authoritative results...what part of that is wrong? You're correct in that duplicate content on the same domain is worse than on separate domains...that's common knowledge and not what the OP was asking about. Do you however think a scraper site would get no penalties whatsoever?

cambaby · 07-23-2010, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by PornMD

SEO is all about using the things that Google's algorithm takes into account (and to a limited degree the other SE's) to get better rankings, and Google's intent with their algorithm is to have relevant authoritative results...what part of that is wrong? Do you however think a scraper site would get no penalties whatsoever?

The cake is a lie.

Barefootsies · 07-23-2010, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by cambaby

The cake is a lie.

What about the blue pill?

Do you still stay in wonderland and see how far the rabbit hole goes?

LaoTzu · 07-23-2010, 06:09 AM

Duplicate Content Matters - Google "rel=canonical"

SEO is a science and an art. If your understanding of the field can be boiled down to broad generalizations like the title of this thread then you have a lot to learn.

pornguy · 07-23-2010, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicky

I have found that It matters more in porn than mainstream, especially news.

ALso these news and portal sites have many visitors, low bouncerate and usually massive backlinks.

Back links to the point that about 85% of the people around here have exit buttons to them.

Sausage · 07-23-2010, 08:04 AM

HAHAHAHAHAHA !!!

This thread is comedy gold. Keep going guys ... this is really entertaining

Everyone is a SEO expert !

07-22-2010, 10:23 AM	#1
cambaby So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: CR Posts: 3,141	Google does not penalize for duplicate content Otherwise every single syndicated news website on the internet would get no Google traffic, CNN, Yahoo News, etc all of these websites and even smaller hometown news websites obviously dont get penalized. Im not saying there is no penalization at all but theres gotta be some wiggle room... thoughts?

07-22-2010, 10:27 AM	#2
BestXXXPorn Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 2,277	It's simply a factor... I'm sure it's included in their algorithm :P __________________ ICQ: 258-202-811 \| Email: eric{at}bestxxxporn.com

07-22-2010, 10:27 AM	#3
Nicky Judge Jury and Executioner Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 30,069	I have found that It matters more in porn than mainstream, especially news. ALso these news and portal sites have many visitors, low bouncerate and usually massive backlinks. __________________ gfynicky @ gmail.com Last edited by Nicky; 07-22-2010 at 10:28 AM..

07-22-2010, 10:32 AM	#7
fatfoo ICQ:649699063 Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 27,763	Some dictionaries say there is more than 500,000 words in the English language. I think it's possible to create less duplicate content. It difficult to learn all the words. __________________ Send me an email: [email protected]

07-22-2010, 10:33 AM	#8
Babaganoosh ♥♥♥ Likes Hugs ♥♥♥ Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: /home Posts: 15,841	The duplicate content penalty never has existed. It's a persistent myth spread by self-proclaimed SEO experts. The fools that tell you duplicate content penalties exist are the same fools that will try to convince you that pagerank matters. __________________ I like pie.

07-22-2010, 10:28 AM	#5
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	if you are cnn, no. the rest of us, yes.

07-22-2010, 10:38 AM	#9
sortie Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,771	Google does act quick if you redirect a domain though. It took less than 30 hours for google to make one of my domains disappear. __________________

07-22-2010, 11:41 AM	#10
Dirty Dane Sick Fuck Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: www Posts: 9,491	It's opposite than "penalize". The first/original site is "awarded" by its publish time. Same with single keywords. For instance, if you are among the first to promote a new keyword in this industry, like a new domain name, you will likely get some good positions for some time at Google index. To maintain the position you need the relevance factor. Like backlinks and deeplinks. Yahoo, CNN etc. are credited with source links and that's why they get good position(s). Many SEO "experts" tend to forget how important speed is. Just like breaking news is a sale factor, you can't duplicate publish time (google cache) and that's the "backdoor" into the algorithm. No matter how good writer and SEO "friendly" you are, you will lose attention and money if you can't "be the first" and take advantage of it into the peaks. No one can predict real world news, but there is always a time gap between knowledge and publish. In this industry, that depends on how close business relationships you have. And there are other ways, which I'm not going to post here

07-22-2010, 01:10 PM	#11
Cash Click on my TCG signature Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 20,825	It's not penalized, but maybe you don't get good rankings. Probably, if you have many pages within a website with duplicate content, you get penalized. But, Google makes the difference between normal duplicate content, such as news, tourist offers, product specifications in e-shops, etc., and for example porn duplicate content. __________________ $9.95/month for 15000 GB bandwidth monthly, unlimited (sub)domains and MySQL5, PHP4/5, 500 GB disk storage! ; use any of these invitation codes: 216263692101; 408636009193; 846090586647; my ICQ 30160426!

07-22-2010, 01:56 PM	#14
UFGators2007 Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 1,739	Anyone have any real life experience of traffic/rank changes after removing duplicates, or SEOing duplicates? What about white labels and their main sites? If you look at the image source, many of these sites point to the "parent" / non skin site. __________________ "I use the Google to pull up maps."

07-22-2010, 05:33 PM	#15
icymelon Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 3,220	my personal opinion is that if you duplicate it once no big deal. duplicate it twice not really an issue. but then as it gets duplicate more it gets less authority or considered less relevant. Also the site duplicating it is an issue. If freeones ran rss feeds its going to considered more significant there than if you crappy blog runs it. __________________ Network Of Adult Blogs With Hardlink Rentals Available

07-22-2010, 07:27 PM	#26
Barefootsies Choice is an Illusion Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Land of Obama Posts: 42,635	Matt Cutts has spoke on this. It depends on the type of site, and what is seen as an 'authority' type of thing. To think a corporate America site is going to have to play by the same rules as a small fry affiliate marketer is insane in the membrane. It doesn't work like that. __________________ Should You Email Your Members? Link1 \| Link2 \| Link3 Enough Said. "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

07-22-2010, 07:30 PM	#27
cambaby So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: CR Posts: 3,141	Keep making those pages boys!

07-22-2010, 07:35 PM	#30
Deej I make pixels work Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: I live here... Posts: 24,386	I really do wonder if people will change the methods out of laziness and heresay rather than results... __________________ Deej's Designs n' What Not Hit me up for Design, CSS & Photo Retouching Icq#30096880

07-22-2010, 07:36 PM	#31
fris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 55,262	not penazlied in any way, just doesnt get indexed __________________ Since 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence. WP Stuff

07-22-2010, 08:54 PM	#36
cambaby So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: CR Posts: 3,141	ROFL loving it!

07-22-2010, 08:57 PM	#37
Relentless www.EngineFood.com Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,698	1) Never believe anything Matt Cutts says. He works for the company that wants to stop you from gaming the system. 2) Original text absolutely matters. If you have exlusive, original text on a terrible site with infrequent updates it will not help you. It is one important factor, not the only factor. 3) You are not CNN, Yahoo, The New York Times, Huffington Post, CBS, NBC, ABC, FOX etc... and Search Engines are able to differentiate your blog from CNN or the BBC. __________________ Website Secure \| Engine Food ICQ# 266-942-896

07-22-2010, 11:01 PM	#43
Supz Arthur Flegenheimer Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New York City Posts: 11,056	lol. who cares. i think more people get to yahoo, cnn, and every other news site by type in traffic more then google.

07-22-2010, 11:22 PM	#44
HighEnergy So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 806	Dupe content on the same domain name = not so good. Dupe content on multiple domain names = OK. @PornMD ... You're just a kid who got lucky once, entirely due to the short lived Parking Panel escapade and an accidental lucky domain catch. You have NO idea what building, maintaining, or monetizing a web site is about. Go back to some domain forum where they might think you know something. * This is a web master forum, and you simply don't qualify. * Oh wait ...... none of them do!

07-23-2010, 06:09 AM	#48
LaoTzu Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 350	Duplicate Content Matters - Google "rel=canonical" SEO is a science and an art. If your understanding of the field can be boiled down to broad generalizations like the title of this thread then you have a lot to learn.

07-23-2010, 08:04 AM	#50
Sausage Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 3,012	HAHAHAHAHAHA !!! This thread is comedy gold. Keep going guys ... this is really entertaining Everyone is a SEO expert !