Oh noes say it ain't so alpha sky!!!

[Mutt]

Important Information Regarding:
Affiliate ID(s): 1801111
Webmaster Program: Alpha Sky Productions Affiliate Program

Your Affiliate account(s) has/have been deactivated due to violation of acceptable use policy.

Notes from CCBill:
2 Attempts were made to contact the Affiliate. Affiliate does not wish to comply by reducing the amount of promotional materials used (FHG's) in one Affiliate website location. Over promoting our website(s) is not allowed. Account suspended until matter is corrected. When Affiliate reduces the amount of FHG's to 4 or less per affiliate website location, account will be reinstated.

Thank you,
CCBill




good luck retard

[abshard]

Why did you bother making an account with them in the first place?

After reading all the threads about them,no way i was gonna waste my time with them.

[$5 submissions]

Interesting requirements

[spunky99]

mutt.. i'll take the traffic

[CDSmith]

Originally Posted by abshard

Why did you bother making an account with them in the first place?

After reading all the threads about them,no way i was gonna waste my time with them.

I can only assume some people felt sorry for them.

[ottopottomouse]

Did you make any sales and are they robbing you of the rebills?

[seeandsee]

fucking tubes made fhgs too much content

[NetHorse]

I remember reading a thread where he asked affiliates to use less promotional material..

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=975737

Honestly, he actually does make a valid point. Limiting my blogs to a few pictures and one short video increased my conversions over offering every piece of promotional material available to me.

However, on the same token, deactivating affiliate accounts because it is a bit ridiculous.

[ghostshadow]

Got the same email today. Just sent them a sale two or three days ago too. And yes, being robbed of any potential rebills. I gave up on them a couple months ago anyway since they don't actually give affiliates anything to use for promotional purposes. I don't see how hard it is to post maybe even just eight pics from new updates without any nudity so affiliates at least have something to promote without giving anything anyway. It's not rocket science. Give surfers something to peak their interest and show them there's fresh updates going on. They might as well just close their affiliate program.

Would be nice if there was a competent program to send black twins traffic to besides them.

[The Dawg]

Any other black twin sites out there?

[area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE]

I have heard of a number of people who send them sales getting there accounts "deactivated" and losing their rebills.

Scummy fucks.

[Black Ops]

At least he has policies. I don't agree with them but with everyone else failing, you just don't know who's going to be right in the long run.

[TheDA]

What was it they asked for again, no more than 4 galleries to be used at a time?

[BlackCrayon]

they'll soon be out of business with an attitude like that...oh wait this seems to be what everyone is doing these days. canning affiliates and keeping the sales...

[brentbacardi]

Well, I am not even really in the business of being an affiliate but I even know that his rule is no more than 4 FHGs and you can only keep up Holiday themed FHGs right around each holiday. So why would you sign up for him as an affiliate if you know that rule AND you know he goes ape shit over it by reading his posts on GFY?

He does have a very exclusive niche and this is how he wants to do it, so stop complaining. There are plenty of other affiliate programs out there and if you still really want his, just follow his rules.

Would you edit photos, or advertise in ways that werent allowed of other affiliates (not sure what they allow or dont for my examples lol) if you knew it was against the rules and would suspend your account just because you think its a better way to get sales? NO you wouldn't... or at least you wouldnt complain if you got suspended after they told you to fix it twice and you didn't....

Just saying

[Naechy]

interesting

[DVTimes]

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=978784

[AHarper]

Originally Posted by ghostshadow

Got the same email today. Just sent them a sale two or three days ago too. And yes, being robbed of any potential rebills. I gave up on them a couple months ago anyway since they don't actually give affiliates anything to use for promotional purposes. I don't see how hard it is to post maybe even just eight pics from new updates without any nudity so affiliates at least have something to promote without giving anything anyway. It's not rocket science. Give surfers something to peak their interest and show them there's fresh updates going on. They might as well just close their affiliate program.

Would be nice if there was a competent program to send black twins traffic to besides them.

Not sure if it's what you're looking for but have a look at sisterreunion.com from Pretty in Cash

[Sly]

Originally Posted by brentbacardi

Well, I am not even really in the business of being an affiliate but I even know that his rule is no more than 4 FHGs and you can only keep up Holiday themed FHGs right around each holiday. So why would you sign up for him as an affiliate if you know that rule AND you know he goes ape shit over it by reading his posts on GFY?

He does have a very exclusive niche and this is how he wants to do it, so stop complaining. There are plenty of other affiliate programs out there and if you still really want his, just follow his rules.

Would you edit photos, or advertise in ways that werent allowed of other affiliates (not sure what they allow or dont for my examples lol) if you knew it was against the rules and would suspend your account just because you think its a better way to get sales? NO you wouldn't... or at least you wouldnt complain if you got suspended after they told you to fix it twice and you didn't....

Just saying

A lot of people had galleries and promotions up prior to the e-mail announcing the rule a few weeks back. Affiliates don't go back and pull content, they just don't. It's too time consuming and if affiliates needed to pull content every time a sponsor wanted to be a nitpick, nobody would make any money.

Yes, being the sponsor puts you in control and allows you to make the rules. But as a sponsor that wants affiliates, you need to understand and acknowledge that your affiliates have special requests and if you want them to continue promoting you (making you money), you need to hear them out and consider what they have to say. Being a dictator because you "own the content" will get you nowhere. If that's where you want to go, like this program seems to want, then that's your choice. Just don't cry when you are only making a couple grand a month when you should be making over five figures.

Despite the doom and gloom, affiliates are a very powerful tool that is very difficult to duplicate and should not be stomped on. Treat them right and it can make your life remarkably easier, and better.

[rowan]

I guess it's not really a surprise.

Now all we need is a global newsletter email listing affiliate IDs who have not complied (and the most 10 recent referers from each )

[rowan]

Alphasky is going to end up locking down this program so tight that there will be no one to send any sales remaining.

[CaptainHowdy]

Looks like their onto something...

[the Shemp]

congrats to the winners...

[Agent 488]

Originally Posted by Sly

Despite the doom and gloom, affiliates are a very powerful tool that is very difficult to duplicate and should not be stomped on. Treat them right and it can make your life remarkably easier, and better.

thank you. a couple inhouse guys running a tube and buying ad spots can never replace a sales team of thousands creatively hustling your sites.

[Wizzo]

Got to love a Alpha Sky thread to start the day...

[mailman]

U dun goofed!

[MrBottomTooth]

Originally Posted by brentbacardi

Well, I am not even really in the business of being an affiliate but I even know that his rule is no more than 4 FHGs and you can only keep up Holiday themed FHGs right around each holiday. So why would you sign up for him as an affiliate if you know that rule AND you know he goes ape shit over it by reading his posts on GFY?

I'd wager 99% of his affiliates signed up before that rule was in place. He just announced it a couple weeks ago if I recall correctly.

It's hard enough to go back and change links for most people even after a sponsor totally dies and goes out of business, let alone one that just decides to put limits on promo content out of the blue.

[NetHorse]

l

Originally Posted by mailman

U dun goofed!

CONSEQUENCES WILL NEVER BE THE SAME

[Michael O]

Originally Posted by the Shemp

congrats to the winners...

There are no winners, neither the program or the affiliates.
If you are out of touch with reality and won't take suggestions from old hands then you can not run a program.

[the Shemp]

Originally Posted by Michael O

There are no winners, neither the program or the affiliates.
If you are out of touch with reality and won't take suggestions from old hands then you can not run a program.

damn, i thought this was some kind of a contest thread ...

[LeRoy]

It's her program. So take it and like it.

[cykoe6]

Originally Posted by brentbacardi

Well, I am not even really in the business of being an affiliate but I even know that his rule is no more than 4 FHGs and you can only keep up Holiday themed FHGs right around each holiday. So why would you sign up for him as an affiliate if you know that rule AND you know he goes ape shit over it by reading his posts on GFY?

He does have a very exclusive niche and this is how he wants to do it, so stop complaining. There are plenty of other affiliate programs out there and if you still really want his, just follow his rules.

Would you edit photos, or advertise in ways that werent allowed of other affiliates (not sure what they allow or dont for my examples lol) if you knew it was against the rules and would suspend your account just because you think its a better way to get sales? NO you wouldn't... or at least you wouldnt complain if you got suspended after they told you to fix it twice and you didn't....

Just saying

You make that quite clear with your idiotic post.

[lazycash]

Originally Posted by NetHorse

l


CONSEQUENCES WILL NEVER BE THE SAME

Yep, there's nowhere to hide as an affiliate, Alpha is able to backtrace anyone violating his policies.

[Nicky]

Originally Posted by the Shemp

damn, i thought this was some kind of a contest thread ...

Not enough weiners ;)

damn just recalled I have once again for the 20th or something time forgotten to renew my shemp gold, I'll get on It and email lol

[baddog]

Originally Posted by ghostshadow

Got the same email today. Just sent them a sale two or three days ago too. And yes, being robbed of any potential rebills. I gave up on them a couple months ago anyway since they don't actually give affiliates anything to use for promotional purposes. I don't see how hard it is to post maybe even just eight pics from new updates without any nudity so affiliates at least have something to promote without giving anything anyway. It's not rocket science. Give surfers something to peak their interest and show them there's fresh updates going on. They might as well just close their affiliate program.

Would be nice if there was a competent program to send black twins traffic to besides them.

His program, his rules. As stated by someone else, I do not promote his program but even I know his rules. Why would you bother to promote the program if you can not abide by the rules?

[the Shemp]

Originally Posted by Nicky

Not enough weiners ;)

damn just recalled I have once again for the 20th or something time forgotten to renew my shemp gold, I'll get on It and email lol

thanks, i need the $$ ...

[Pornopat]

If you promoted them you deserved to be banned

[TheDA]

I'd be interested to see how the banning of some pretty large traffic sites are going to effect their sales.

Sort term = losses. Long term = increased sales?

[Pics Traffic]

Guy is complete retard.

[MrBottomTooth]

Originally Posted by baddog

His program, his rules. As stated by someone else, I do not promote his program but even I know his rules. Why would you bother to promote the program if you can not abide by the rules?

They change the rules as they go along, that is the problem.

[Roald]

Originally Posted by TheDA

I'd be interested to see how the banning of some pretty large traffic sites are going to effect their sales.

Sort term = losses. Long term = increased sales?

I am sure ratios are way way better now with all that free content that is gone. Too bad the overall income dropped 80% ;))))

[Mutt]

i wouldn't promote that wackjob - i inherited an account with them when I bought Bodsforthemods.com a few months ago. i haven't posted a gallery of theirs since.

anybody who could not turn two sets of fairly hot twins into a big success goes into the Dumbass Hall of Fame on the first ballot.

[AlphaSky]

Originally Posted by NetHorse

I remember reading a thread where he asked affiliates to use less promotional material..

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=975737

Honestly, he actually does make a valid point. Limiting my blogs to a few pictures and one short video increased my conversions over offering every piece of promotional material available to me.

However, on the same token, deactivating affiliate accounts because it is a bit ridiculous.

Originally Posted by Black Ops

At least he has policies. I don't agree with them but with everyone else failing, you just don't know who's going to be right in the long run.

Originally Posted by brentbacardi

Well, I am not even really in the business of being an affiliate but I even know that his rule is no more than 4 FHGs and you can only keep up Holiday themed FHGs right around each holiday. So why would you sign up for him as an affiliate if you know that rule AND you know he goes ape shit over it by reading his posts on GFY?

He does have a very exclusive niche and this is how he wants to do it, so stop complaining. There are plenty of other affiliate programs out there and if you still really want his, just follow his rules.

Would you edit photos, or advertise in ways that werent allowed of other affiliates (not sure what they allow or dont for my examples lol) if you knew it was against the rules and would suspend your account just because you think its a better way to get sales? NO you wouldn't... or at least you wouldnt complain if you got suspended after they told you to fix it twice and you didn't....

Just saying

Originally Posted by baddog

His program, his rules. As stated by someone else, I do not promote his program but even I know his rules. Why would you bother to promote the program if you can not abide by the rules?

Hi all, first off, I do thank you for your comments and also the support. It is very difficult making a policy change. Please remember this marketplace is very competitive and we are only altering our policy to maintain the future sales of our sites for ourselves as well as our affiliates.

We did send out a notice 30 days ago, and then a follow up about 10 days ago. Almost all of our affiliates were fine with this concept and support us. Actually, we only had just a few (literally) affiliates that never responded nor trimmed down the FHG volumes in their sites. We had no choice on our end but to temporarily suspend their accounts to motivate the affiliate to please follow our guidelines. It's not fair to the other affiliates who are following the guidelines.

By no means are we looking to cut off those affiliates from their future rebills. We only ask they please just delete some FHG's from their sites. Shouldn't take that long to pull a few thumbs. Or we suggest they can leave the thumbs, and simply place a url redirects in it's place pointing to the main site they are advertising. That way there are no "holes" in their site. This is just a suggestion. Then drop us an email showing the correction and your account will be reinstated as promised. No sales lost, business as normal.

We wish to say thank you for all our affiliates that did trim down on their FHG usage. We reviewed almost all of our affiliates sites and found most of them to be spot on great. Lots of tease photos, text descriptions, and very nice appearances. By using up to 4 FHG's, you'll always have some FHG's to rotate to after a few months or weeks, to keep your pages looking fresh. (as to simply posting 15 FHG's and displaying too much free content, thus, not inducing a sale.)

Of course we are your "bread and butter" sales. You're not going to "get rich" with us, but you will find thru the years a small nice steady little flow of sales that help out in the long run.

On a small other note, we notice that the Apple Twins are advertised 4 to 1 vs. the Jolie twins. Please note that lovers of twin sisters don't see "color." The twin sister fetish is very unique and those that enjoy the Apple Twins, will certainly enjoy the Jolie Twins. Almost 32% of our Apple Twins members join the Jolie Twins. That's a very high figure. Please consider adding some sexy Jolie Twin's FHG's to your twin sister line up. The Jolies are very underrated in our opinion. Very beautiful and highly erotic. We sell more Jolie sales in Europe then we do in the States. France, Germany, Italy, UK and a few in Japan on a weekly basis.

If you have Euro traffic, you'll enjoy our International mini tours. We've been getting about 10 to 12% of our sales from Europe. Not much, but it does add up. Just you making one extra affiliate sale a day from Europe is like getting an extra $ 350 a month in income. That'll pay for your cable, phone, gas, water and electricity.... with just one affiliate sale per day from Europe. Check out our International tours and stick up a few, you'll be surprised. USA is not the only place where porn sales are happening. With the decline of USA banks and the limiting of new credit lines, European markets are fresh new territories.

Thanks for your time reading. Looking forward to long term continued business.

Best,
Leslie
Alpha Sky Productions

[Agent 488]

Originally Posted by Mutt

i wouldn't promote that wackjob - i inherited an account with them when I bought Bodsforthemods.com a few months ago. i haven't posted a gallery of theirs since.

anybody who could not turn two sets of fairly hot twins into a big success goes into the Dumbass Hall of Fame on the first ballot.

you bought bods? weird. good site. fits though.

[Mutt]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

you bought bods? weird. good site. fits though.

yes, was a fan of the site and a friend of the owner. bods needs a big overhaul because it's on a piece of crap CMS, Liquid Media, put out by a deadbeat programmer who's lucky he's not getting sued by the webmasters he ripped off and there are many of them.

[Tjeezers]

You sneak up on your affiliates like you sneaked up on your mom.

Creepy little bitch you are. And I hope many people will not consider taking your incest stuff on their website.

God your a disgrace for this industry.

[Tjeezers]

Originally Posted by brentbacardi

He does have a very exclusive niche
Just saying

Yeah Incest is so hot these days

FYI, he never announced he would deactivate accounts in that same post. No, he was sneaking up on those who brought sales. He has to much time on his hands and becomes a little Stalin on his own shitty cheap useless program, and wants to be taken serious.

Anyone who can only milk from Incest content is a total nobody.

[AlphaSky]

Originally Posted by Tjeezers

You sneak up on your affiliates like you sneaked up on your mom.

Creepy little bitch you are. And I hope many people will not consider taking your incest stuff on their website.

God your a disgrace for this industry.

RRRrrrrrrr Twins Sisters BAD..... Fire GOOOOOOD.



We agree! Who likes looking at sexy twin sisters?




Oh my, this hurts my eyes. It's too sexy... please, make it go away! I need to see women getting fisted, pissed on, tied up and fucked ass to mouth!! You know, REGULAR wholesome porn.

[sicone]

Alpha Sky... I understand where you're coming from and somewhat agree with you on just providing a tease for the surfers and yes perhaps less free content could be a way to go. However there are many flaws with your requests and I'm sure these flaws are because of your lack of experience. I'll try my best to explain a few of them...

1st... Your new rule on 4fhgs is fine, but don't make it retro on webmasters who have already worked to get you out there, to get SE results and especially for those who submit galleries.

Removing content that is already live and has been live for a period of time is not easy, it's also stupid. Why would I want to remove content that has already been spidered and listed on SE's? That hurts my rankings if the content is no longer there and is also less traffic to your site(s)

Only using your holiday content goes back to the same point. Sure, no one is searching for xmas twins in August, but I can say with reasonable confidence that xmas will come back around this year again, and most likely even the next. And wouldn't it be great to already have a jump on those rankings with content that has been in place

For those who submit galleries, they know the game a lot better then you do and I suggest you hit up some TGP/MGP sites and check out the rules. Specifically the ones regarding re-directing of traffic. To save you a few moments, I'll tell you now that most sites will simply just blacklist the submitter and his sites. This is so common of a rule, that the ability to do this is built into pretty much every TGP script available.

You have been given so much FREE solid advice since you first started yet you choose to act like you know better then those who have done this for years. Please read your threads again, ignore the shit talking and pay attention to some of the advice you have been offered. Of course it's your business at the end of the day and you are free to run it as you wish, but I promise it wont hurt to listen and try to integrate some suggestions into your business plan

[Nicky]

Originally Posted by Roald

I am sure ratios are way way better now with all that free content that is gone. Too bad the overall income dropped 80% ;))))