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Old 08-05-2010, 08:25 PM   #1
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I am so proud of my son - his first recorded music

Hi guys and gals, I want to share with you what my 16 year old son recorded today with his dad in the studio. he wrote and sang/rapped all of the lyrics, and him and his dad went into their studio this afternoon and a little while later this is what came out of him....

His first tunes

Keep in mind he is 16 and this was his first ever recording. He creates his music on the computer using programs he finds for that sort of thing. I am old school, instruments and such, but HIS instrument is his computer. He also did his own backup vocals. This is ALL him.
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sounds good actually. better than 95% of humanity. do it.
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My first thought before clicking was "oh, god, this is mostly likely going to really suck and I am not going to post anything because I don't want to be mean." Kind of like right before someone shows you a picture of their baby and you pray its not ugly.

Then I hit play and was pleasantly surprised.

The music is great. The lyrics are great. He could improve some on the vocals but that comes in time and everything is tweaked so much these days that most people probably sound like that before going through pro tools and such. That and at 16 our voices are going through change -- poor Justin Bieber.
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Your son has a potty mouth.

Beats are good but vocals need a lot of work.

Overall, not bad for a first time recording.
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My first thought before clicking was "oh, god, this is mostly likely going to really suck and I am not going to post anything because I don't want to be mean." Kind of like right before someone shows you a picture of their baby and you pray its not ugly.

Then I hit play and was pleasantly surprised.

The music is great. The lyrics are great. He could improve some on the vocals but that comes in time and everything is tweaked so much these days that most people probably sound like that before going through pro tools and such. That and at 16 our voices are going through change -- poor Justin Bieber.
No, I wouldn't do that, I have been involved in my husband's bands for more than 20 years and if it sucked, I'd tell them and wouldn't ask anyone else to listen to it. lol

Having said that, thank you for such a kind thing to say. His vocals will improve, this was his first time ever doing anything like this and with his dad in the next room recording it and his use of some choice words, I think he was extremely nervous. But I told him before he went in, don't worry about the choice of words, we all know how the game is played and if that is what goes there then it just does. Even at that though, I think his nerves were eating a little at him.

Thanks guys.. I just had to share it with you, I know there are a lot of musicians here that would appreciate what he is doing.... even if it isn't your style of music, you have to appreciate the talent.

And yes, this child is home schooled. lol
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Your son has a potty mouth.

Beats are good but vocals need a lot of work.

Overall, not bad for a first time recording.
I can't imagine for the fucking life of me where he gets that nasty ass fucking mouth, can you? lmao

His vocals will improve once the nerves are gone, I think. I've heard him in his room when he thinks no one is listening. lol
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You know, come to think of it, he did sound nervous ... I couldn't place what it sounded like until you mentioned it.
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I've heard him in his room when he thinks no one is listening. lol
I can only dance with no one is watching.

Oh and if I drop acid. Well, I think I can dance while tripping but would I really know? The mirror always ended up melting when I watched myself.
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I can't imagine for the fucking life of me where he gets that nasty ass fucking mouth, can you? lmao

His vocals will improve once the nerves are gone, I think. I've heard him in his room when he thinks no one is listening. lol
Haven't got a fucking clue. Does he kiss his mother with that mouth?

Not to bring your personal life to public...But....The way you mention "his dad" makes me wonder about you and Jimmy.
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I can only dance with no one is watching.

Oh and if I drop acid. Well, I think I can dance while tripping but would I really know? The mirror always ended up melting when I watched myself.
My dancing is so bad that I don't think it would matter what drug I took, I still couldn't convince myself I could dance. I love to watch people dance, but wow... it hasn't ever been something I was blessed with at all.. lol

I heard the nerves right away, that's why I knew what you were talking about. He was so worried if he said the word fuck something would come flying across the room at his head, or you would have thought that. lmao
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The music is really good, he needs to turn up the volume on the vocals but not bad at all.
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Haven't got a fucking clue. Does he kiss his mother with that mouth?

Not to bring your personal life to public...But....The way you mention "his dad" makes me wonder about you and Jimmy.
We are doing fine. He is in the studio with his own band right now making some good music and he's helping Rally, obviously, with his music. He is helping my kids thru their schooling, which we are now handling at home... and we're just carrying on, making the best of whatever is thrown at us, like we always do. And me? Well, you know me, always working, nothing much has changed there, other than getting older. lol
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We are doing fine. He is in the studio with his own band right now making some good music and he's helping Rally, obviously, with his music. He is helping my kids thru their schooling, which we are now handling at home... and we're just carrying on, making the best of whatever is thrown at us, like we always do. And me? Well, you know me, always working, nothing much has changed there, other than getting older. lol


Glad to hear it. I was a little worried for a moment there.
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Ohh i miss our 1 hour phone conversations LMAO
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What i dont miss though is the phone bills from calling from europe at that time OUCH
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Glad to hear it. I was a little worried for a moment there.
Why on earth would you be worried? You know me and my family, it takes a great deal to knock us down. lol

My use of "his dad' simply meant his dad is helping, I am not musically inclined. lol

Loch... I know, me too. Too bad we didn't have skype back then, right? lmao
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I liked it.
Thanks hon, that means a lot coming from you.
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Sounds a lot like early Eminem stuff with a little Snoop inspiration. The beats are innovative to say the least, the lyrics are mindblowing and the vocals leave nothing to be desired. Your son is going to be a rap superstar, Tam.
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Thanks hon, that means a lot coming from you.
He's definitely lying
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Not bad at all. You need to up the levels on the vocals in the first track, he gets drowned out a little.

He needs to develop more attitude
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You did something right with that boy Tam... I'm proud of you both!
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Wasn't bad at all, but now that you mention it he does sound really nervous.
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Not bad at all. You need to up the levels on the vocals in the first track, he gets drowned out a little.

He needs to develop more attitude
That boy has some serious attitude, trust me on that one. lol

I think once he is comfortable that his dad isn't going to freak out when he hears the lyrics, he'll be fine with that. This is COMPLETELY new to both of them, working together and so on. His dad HATES Rap Music with a passion... but he's learning as he goes as well.

Thanks, Winston.. and everyone else.
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Congrats, really, happy and proud because your son does something he likes and does it well, must be a great feeling!
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good work, now he needs just smoke few tons of ganja to become a real rapper!
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Congrats, really, happy and proud because your son does something he likes and does it well, must be a great feeling!
It is the greatest feeling. I've always tried to teach them that they don't have to be Drs and lawyers and such, they just have to find something they like, can have fun with and that they can do well and run with it as far as it will take them. He is doing it.

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Ok, umm...... NO!! lmao

Thanks again guys, he hasn't seen or been told of any of your comments yet, he is with his best friend writing, but I am seriously going to pass this along to him. Thanks so much for your kindness and at least taking the time to listen to his work.
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I used to own a Record Label, that first track is hot. Could use a little adjusting but I give it a 7 out of 10. Imma Do This Right

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I used to own a Record Label, that first track is hot. Could use a little adjusting but I give it a 7 out of 10. Imma Do This Right

Nice job,
I think once his nerves are in check and his dad gets the "feel" of this genre he will be fine.

He's actually been talking to some Rapper, says he is famous, but I couldn't tell you who it was right now... the guy has been taking his own time to talk to him though and giving him pointers and tips, via email and said if he came up with something he thought would sell, he'd work with him. So that is what is driving him right at the moment.... he is definitely taking the initiative, which is what I am so proud of him for. And he is doing it on his own... he asked me if he emailed some of them if I thought they'd email him back and all I said was "You won't know unless you try, and all they can do is ignore you or tell you to go fuck yourself" so he ran with it. lol

He wants to get a better recording before doing that, one where he isn't so damn nervous. And now he wants to all but LIVE in that studio. which is keeping him home and sage, so I am all about that. lol
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I think once his nerves are in check and his dad gets the "feel" of this genre he will be fine.

He's actually been talking to some Rapper, says he is famous, but I couldn't tell you who it was right now... the guy has been taking his own time to talk to him though and giving him pointers and tips, via email and said if he came up with something he thought would sell, he'd work with him. So that is what is driving him right at the moment.... he is definitely taking the initiative, which is what I am so proud of him for. And he is doing it on his own... he asked me if he emailed some of them if I thought they'd email him back and all I said was "You won't know unless you try, and all they can do is ignore you or tell you to go fuck yourself" so he ran with it. lol

He wants to get a better recording before doing that, one where he isn't so damn nervous. And now he wants to all but LIVE in that studio. which is keeping him home and sage, so I am all about that. lol

Just tell him to go a little more aggro with his vocals. Sounds good.
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I'm no longer a big fan of HipHop/Rap, but the composition was very good. What's he using to make the beats, Ableton? There are some tweaks he can do to make the bass pop out more, an excellent first time.

Please tell him great job, and he's only gonna get better!
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I'm no longer a big fan of HipHop/Rap, but the composition was very good. What's he using to make the beats, Ableton? There are some tweaks he can do to make the bass pop out more, an excellent first time.

Please tell him great job, and he's only gonna get better!
The program he is using is FL Studio, it's a pretty decent program I guess, I know little to nothing about it. He's using the trial version right now.. but we're working towards getting him a better pc, the full version of this program and a better sound system for it. Now that we know he is serious about it, I want to really get him setup with everything he needs to get it done. I certainly don't mind putting the money into things, but until now, we weren't sure. You know how it is with teenagers, you never know what they are going to do... but I think we're pretty sure now. lol

The speaker setup he has now doesn't leave much in the areas of bass and other such needed things for this genre, but we're working on all of that.
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not to rain on the parade, but nowadays its easy as pie to make a track with the software they have out now. My 15 year old nephew makes beats just like this one. It has piano and shit all in them like your sons, and i was like "damn is that you playing the piano" and he was like "nah, its part of the software". I guess maybe it takes a bit of skill, but most software programs now even for djs, match the beats for you. I mean i wish we had this technology when I was growing up, but still, when you can make a "track" in 30 minutes with software, it just seems sort of "generic".
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not to rain on the parade, but nowadays its easy as pie to make a track with the software they have out now. My 15 year old nephew makes beats just like this one. It has piano and shit all in them like your sons, and i was like "damn is that you playing the piano" and he was like "nah, its part of the software". I guess maybe it takes a bit of skill, but most software programs now even for djs, match the beats for you. I mean i wish we had this technology when I was growing up, but still, when you can make a "track" in 30 minutes with software, it just seems sort of "generic".
I completely understand and you aren't offending me at all. He has about 20 tracks that he has written himself without any of those "built in" beats at all and those are better than any of the things that he has used some of the plugged in ones on. The only trouble with that is that he has just the trial version and it won't let him put them on a disk until I get him hooked up with the full version of it, which is a little pricey, but when he gets that, he has some that are far better that he laid down himself.

So don't think you are offending anyone, you aren't, I totally get what you are saying. but he does write his own and he did write and sing the lyrics and put the beats together. This just isn't his best work, just his FIRST work. ;)
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ok, kids only 16 so i will only offer constructive things instead of being mean.
1- turn those vocals UP, i had to shake my nuts off with the bass to even hear him on the hook. i cant even tell you if his rhymes were good or not, i simply couldnt hear or make sense of them.
2- to whoever made the beats. Dont be afraid of sampling. THATS where all the dope sounds are. NOT on any keyboard. As for sampling rights and all that shit. Forget about it. Sample whatever you want and if you get rich off it, pay whoever you're sposed to pay THEN.
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Old 08-06-2010, 11:10 PM   #42
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ok, kids only 16 so i will only offer constructive things instead of being mean.
1- turn those vocals UP, i had to shake my nuts off with the bass to even hear him on the hook. i cant even tell you if his rhymes were good or not, i simply couldnt hear or make sense of them.
2- to whoever made the beats. Dont be afraid of sampling. THATS where all the dope sounds are. NOT on any keyboard. As for sampling rights and all that shit. Forget about it. Sample whatever you want and if you get rich off it, pay whoever you're sposed to pay THEN.
Points well taken... and I agree for the most part as does everyone else. My husband is learning how to mix this particular genre as he isn't used to it in the least little bit and my son was insanely nervous. They are going back into the studio tomorrow night and will both get a little better then.

On part 2, I think the same notes as above would most likely hold true. I can't wait for you guys to hear what he is writing on his originals that he is making all of the tracks for with no samples or anything used, they are far better and his own talents far exceed this, but that will happen when I put his system together.

I do appreciate your criticisms though, honestly, that is what makes us stronger and I appreciate you stating your point without being mean about it. It was constructive and very well taken. So thank you for that.
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Old 08-07-2010, 09:26 AM   #43
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Constructive criticism from someone who has been singing for 19 years -

Turn the vocals up and the backing track down a little, if he's trying to show off vocals and not his beat making skill, he's negating the fact he can rap by drowning himself out.

Take him to a speech therapist. I'm sure he can talk fine but when he raps it sounds like he mumbles and it's hard to understand what he's saying. I had to REALLY focus to hear and I still couldn't make half of it out. Enunciation will get him a lot farther if he's trying to go pro at this. Taking him to a speech therapist will make him learn how to properly say words, which will then translate into his music.

I went into the studio my first time when I was 15 so I know the nerves involved. I will try to scrounge up the first CD my band recorded, it's pretty funny looking back on it.
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A little bit of a generic sound, but not bad at all for the genre.

He still needs to find his own unique voice, however he's off to a great start, and with his Dad there to mentor him, I'm sure he will continue developing.

One important thing, before he publishes anything (music or lyrics), get it copyrighted - the only business dirtier than adult is the music biz...

Tell your son good luck!

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P.S. Damn, you live out in the sticks...I lived in Lexington for about a year, many years ago, and couldn't wait to get out of there, lol. Beautiful countryside, but I'm more of a big city and ocean kinda guy...
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Is your son Nick3131?
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Hi guys and gals, I want to share with you what my 16 year old son recorded today with his dad in the studio. he wrote and sang/rapped all of the lyrics, and him and his dad went into their studio this afternoon and a little while later this is what came out of him....

His first tunes

Keep in mind he is 16 and this was his first ever recording. He creates his music on the computer using programs he finds for that sort of thing. I am old school, instruments and such, but HIS instrument is his computer. He also did his own backup vocals. This is ALL him.
hummmm.... my son, his dad?
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Sounds great. He's talented.
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Hello Tam,

Some of the lyrics are inaudible and some lyrics I might have heard the wrong way. I will give you my interpretation of what I heard. Here it is:

Rally Spradling

Yippee

I'm running like a marathon
Imma do this right
Imma run the gangs right
Show you to the light
I'll be dealing, I'll be mercy
Then you come up on the mike
It's like chicks want two
I'll be cure bee shit
Then the next thing you knew
I put out a new hit
Imma turn the universe
Into a modern verse
Show you new things that
You thought you never saw on earth
Imma run the bat gang, till the fucking sun burst
Feel the lights flow out and
I let the curtains grow
Know what I'm about
And I ain't about these hoes
Nasty ass Mills and you never seen toads
Cause I said i do it right
And dead ain't right
I'm a dude getting up
Until I win this fight
Courtesy like a marathon
I pea slice Aragon
I do it with no beats, no writing and I'm very own
You can't judge me cause I'm untouchable
Straight through the bushes,
like I'm unquestionable
All live and see, so you
know I sit comfortable.

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poor Justin Bieber.
Justin Bieber sounds fine, I thought.
He has a hilarious voice.
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Yes, is that a problem? My son is doing it and his dad, my husband, is helping him put it down. Why is that confusing to you? lmao

fatfoo, he has the lyrics written down somewhere, I'll see how close you are when I can get my hands on them. Like you, I was struggling to hear them too, which is one of the first things I told him.
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