E-Pass/Zeus Trojan connection? - GoFuckYourself.com

nmbr6 · 10-02-2010, 07:23 PM

E-Pass problems then a few weeks later large arrests around the world regarding the Zeus Trojan. As crazy as it sounds could the two events actually be tied together somehow?

I was just thinking, with the recent Zeus Trojan arrests around the world, there has been speculation about how the money was transferred to the originators of the virus from the "mules".

E-Pass would have been perfect. The mule could deposit the stolen money in a local bank account in the west. They could then open E-Pass accounts tied to those banking accounts.

On the other end the originators could also have E-Pass accounts and the "mules" could do P2P transfer to those accounts. The originators could then withdraw money in various ways allowed by E-Pass.

Fairly anonymous especially IF E-Pass security wasn?t up to a high enough standard to detect the strange transfers to these originator E-Pass accounts.

Also this would coincide and explain the lack of information flowing from E-Pass or SKNANB. They were forbidden from saying anything by law enforcement because the investigation was in closing stages leading up to the recent arrests.

Strange thought I know, but kind of intriguing. (Or maybe Mallick can make a movie out of this theory, might be better than MM

)

From IT News
"The malware was used to steal online banking credentials which were then used to access bank accounts belonging to the small business or municipality. The perpetrators would then withdraw money from the compromised accounts, typically in amounts just less than $10,000, and transfer it to fraudulent U.S. bank accounts set up by the money mules.The mules would quickly withdraw the funds and send it to the perpetrators after retaining a portion of it -- about 10% -- for themselves."

Ethersync · 10-02-2010, 07:25 PM

If so, why would they not just come out and say this is the problem? I don't buy it.

SallyRand · 10-02-2010, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nmbr6

E-Pass problems then a few weeks later large arrests around the world regarding the Zeus Trojan. As crazy as it sounds could the two events actually be tied together somehow?

I was just thinking, with the recent Zeus Trojan arrests around the world, there has been speculation about how the money was transferred to the originators of the virus from the "mules".

E-Pass would have been perfect. The mule could deposit the stolen money in a local bank account in the west. They could then open E-Pass accounts tied to those banking accounts.

On the other end the originators could also have E-Pass accounts and the "mules" could do P2P transfer to those accounts. The originators could then withdraw money in various ways allowed by E-Pass.

Fairly anonymous especially IF E-Pass security wasn?t up to a high enough standard to detect the strange transfers to these originator E-Pass accounts.

Also this would coincide and explain the lack of information flowing from E-Pass or SKNANB. They were forbidden from saying anything by law enforcement because the investigation was in closing stages leading up to the recent arrests.

Strange thought I know, but kind of intriguing. (Or maybe Mallick can make a movie out of this theory, might be better than MM

)

From IT News
"The malware was used to steal online banking credentials which were then used to access bank accounts belonging to the small business or municipality. The perpetrators would then withdraw money from the compromised accounts, typically in amounts just less than $10,000, and transfer it to fraudulent U.S. bank accounts set up by the money mules.The mules would quickly withdraw the funds and send it to the perpetrators after retaining a portion of it -- about 10% -- for themselves."

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Agent 488 · 10-02-2010, 07:31 PM

nmbr6 · 10-02-2010, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ethersync

If so, why would they not just come out and say this is the problem? I don't buy it.

Like I said, I don't necessarily buy it either BUT the arrests just happened in the last day or so around the world.

Strange coincidence. (Seems like lead "originator" arrests primarily from Ukraine and Eastern Europe.)

If it were true E-Pass and all involved would legally not be allowed to say anything at all about the investigation or problems under threat of jail time fines etc under AML and other laws. They would not have even known until recently. If, after they were shut down, they said anything they would be guilty of interfering in criminal investigations.

Don't know where the conspiracy is, just could be the use of E-pass that got them shut down.

Major (Tom) · 10-02-2010, 09:16 PM

well i know myth busters was prevented from doing anything with easy pass, so that leads me to believe it's very exploitable.
duke

papill0n · 10-02-2010, 09:52 PM

crazier shit has been spoken man

mrsmut · 10-03-2010, 04:38 AM

I don't agree

For the same reason e-wallet should have been frozen also, e-wallet money continued moving between accounts, withdrawn by ACH and credit cards.

seeandsee · 10-03-2010, 06:26 AM

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10-02-2010, 07:23 PM	#1
nmbr6 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 46	E-Pass/Zeus Trojan connection? E-Pass problems then a few weeks later large arrests around the world regarding the Zeus Trojan. As crazy as it sounds could the two events actually be tied together somehow? I was just thinking, with the recent Zeus Trojan arrests around the world, there has been speculation about how the money was transferred to the originators of the virus from the "mules". E-Pass would have been perfect. The mule could deposit the stolen money in a local bank account in the west. They could then open E-Pass accounts tied to those banking accounts. On the other end the originators could also have E-Pass accounts and the "mules" could do P2P transfer to those accounts. The originators could then withdraw money in various ways allowed by E-Pass. Fairly anonymous especially IF E-Pass security wasn?t up to a high enough standard to detect the strange transfers to these originator E-Pass accounts. Also this would coincide and explain the lack of information flowing from E-Pass or SKNANB. They were forbidden from saying anything by law enforcement because the investigation was in closing stages leading up to the recent arrests. Strange thought I know, but kind of intriguing. (Or maybe Mallick can make a movie out of this theory, might be better than MM ) From IT News "The malware was used to steal online banking credentials which were then used to access bank accounts belonging to the small business or municipality. The perpetrators would then withdraw money from the compromised accounts, typically in amounts just less than $10,000, and transfer it to fraudulent U.S. bank accounts set up by the money mules.The mules would quickly withdraw the funds and send it to the perpetrators after retaining a portion of it -- about 10% -- for themselves."

10-02-2010, 07:25 PM	#2
Ethersync Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: London, Saint-Tropez, Bermuda, Moscow Posts: 5,289	If so, why would they not just come out and say this is the problem? I don't buy it. __________________ The best ePassporte replacement I have found: OKPAY

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10-03-2010, 04:38 AM	#8
mrsmut Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 121	I don't agree For the same reason e-wallet should have been frozen also, e-wallet money continued moving between accounts, withdrawn by ACH and credit cards.