Obama Fans please explain this...

[DirtyDanza]

obama fans please explain this to me ....

from his books...

From Dreams of My Father: "I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites."


From Dreams of My Father : "I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race."


From Dreams of My Father: "There was something about her that made me wary, a little too sure of herself, maybe and white."

From Dreams of My Father: "It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names."


From Dreams of My Father: "I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself: the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela."



And FINALLY .
and most scary:



From Audacity of Hope:
"I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."


WHO THE FUCK VOTED THIS GUY INTO OFFICE?

[Deej]

[Pics Traffic]

So if one of your friends sent you email with Nigerian 419 shit you would come here and bitch about as well?
How about using fucking google and see this right on top of it.
Yes, its mother fucking Snopes.com

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ownwords.asp


Fucking retard.

[BlackCrayon]

isn't it obvious? obama wants to enslave the white race.

[ThunderBalls]

Maybe next time you should verify the crap you post......

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactchec...uld_stand.html

Misleading e-mail: From Dreams of My Father : "I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race."

Actual quote from "Dreams from My Father": Nothing like this quote appears in Obama's books.


Misleading e-mail: From Audacity of Hope: "I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

Actual quote from "The Audacity of Hope" [pg. 261]: Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.


Misleading e-mail: From Dreams of My Father: "I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa, that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, Dubois and Mandela."

Actual quote from "Dreams from My Father" [pg. 220]: Yes, I'd seen weakness in other men - Gramps and his disappointments, Lolo and his compromise. But these men had become object lessons for me, men I might love but never emulate, white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa, that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela. And if later I saw that the black men I knew - Frank or Ray or Will or Rafiq - fell short of such lofty standards; if I had learned to respect these men for the struggles they went through, recognizing them as my own - my father's voice had nevertheless remained untainted, inspiring, rebuking, granting or withholding approval. You do not work hard enough, Barry. You must help in your people's struggle. Wake up, black man!


Misleading e-mail: From Dreams of My Father: "There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white."

Actual quote from "Dreams from My Father" [pgs. 141-142]: Now he was trying to pull urban blacks and suburban whites together around a plan to save manufacturing jobs in metropolitan Chicago. He needed somebody to work with him, he said. Somebody black. ...


Misleading e-mail: From Dreams of My Father: "I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites."

Actual quote from "Dreams from My Father" [pg. xv]: When people who don't know me well, black or white, discover my background (and it is usually a discovery, for I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of twelve or thirteen, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites), I see the split-second adjustments they have to make, the searching of my eyes for some telltale sign. They no longer know who I am. Privately, they guess at my troubled heart, I suppose - the mixed blood, the divided soul, the ghostly image of the tragic mulatto trapped between two worlds. And if I were to explain that no, the tragedy is not mine, or at least not mine alone, it is yours, sons and daughters of Plymouth Rock and Ellis Island, it is yours, children of Africa, it is the tragedy of both my wife's six-year-old cousin and his white first grade classmates, so that you need not guess at what troubles me, it's on the nightly news for all to see, and that if we could acknowledge at least that much then the tragic cycle begins to break down...well, I suspect that I sound incurably naive, wedded to lost hopes, like those Communists who peddle their newspapers on the fringes of various college towns. Or worse, I sound like I'm trying to hide from myself.

On its own, the quote can be interpreted as Obama rejecting his white heritage and, by extension, the entire white population. But, in full context, the statement is part of Obama's assessment of "black or white" individuals' first impressions of him as a person of mixed race.

And finally ...

Misleading e-mail: From Dreams of My Father : ; "It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names."

Actual quote from "Dreams from My Father" [pg. 100-101]: To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets. We smoked cigarettes and wore leather jackets. At night, in the dorms, we discussed necolonialism, Franz Fanon, Eurocentrism, and patriarchy. When we ground out our cigarettes in the hallway carpet or set our stereos so loud that the walls began to shake, we were resisting bourgeois society's stifling constraints. We weren't indifferent or careless or insecure. We were alienated. But this strategy alone couldn't provide the distance I wanted, from Joyce or my past. After all, there were thousands of so-called campus radicals, most of them white and tenured and happily tolerated. No, it remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.

[Deej]

Originally Posted by Slow Roosevelt

So if one of your friends sent you email with Nigerian 419 shit you would come here and bitch about as well?
How about using fucking google and see this right on top of it.
Yes, its mother fucking Snopes.com

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ownwords.asp


Fucking retard.

Oh BURN!!!! in your face Danza!!!! Im going to come kick your asssss for this!!!!!!!!!!

[Deej]

BRiNG THE MATS MOTHER FUCKER!!!!!

[PenisFace]

I think Danza's been punched one to many times.

[ThunderBalls]

I think he's been teabagged to many times

[Pics Traffic]

Originally Posted by PenisFace

I think Danza's been punched one to many times.

[cambaby]

Originally Posted by Deej

Oh BURN!!!! in your face Danza!!!! Im going to come kick your asssss for this!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Slow Roosevelt

How about using fucking google and see this right on top of it. Yes, its mother fucking Snopes.com

Originally Posted by ThunderBalls

Maybe next time you should verify the crap you post.

Hey dumb fucks its absolutely accurate, its all semantics, even Snopes says that listing it as MULTIPLE. This man IS a closet socialist, racist and a muslim sympathizer.

[NaughtyVisions]

Originally Posted by Slow Roosevelt

So if one of your friends sent you email with Nigerian 419 shit you would come here and bitch about as well?
How about using fucking google and see this right on top of it.
Yes, its mother fucking Snopes.com

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ownwords.asp


Fucking retard.

Originally Posted by ThunderBalls

Maybe next time you should verify the crap you post......

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactchec...uld_stand.html

[DirtyDanza]

Originally Posted by cambaby

Hey dumb fucks its absolutely accurate, its all semantics, even Snopes says that listing it as MULTIPLE. This man IS a closet socialist, racist and a muslim sympathizer.

they have all lost their minds..... some people are still in denial...


I tell em this... name one good thing he's done so far?

[PenisFace]

Originally Posted by Slow Roosevelt

Is that him in his avatar picture? He's way to scrawny to be juicing. He's probably just punch drunk, happens to everyone who fights eventually.

[DirtyDanza]

to really fuck with you guys ill give you ammo...

yeah im very lean so what.... very low body fat you jelous? I cut lots of weight to fight .. 15-20lbs ...

2

steroids are not just for "bulking up" they are for recovery most of all...

but no I never juice .. supplement the hell out of daily training but never juiice

[Pics Traffic]

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza

to really fuck with you guys ill give you ammo...

yeah im very lean so what.... very low body fat you jelous? I cut lots of weight to fight .. 15-20lbs ...

2

steroids are not just for "bulking up" they are for recovery most of all...

but no I never juice .. supplement the hell out of daily training but never juiice

[Pics Traffic]

Originally Posted by cambaby

Hey dumb fucks its absolutely accurate, its all semantics, even Snopes says that listing it as MULTIPLE. This man IS a closet socialist, racist and a muslim sympathizer.

What ever you say chump. What ever you say.

[pornmasta]

Color defines purity:

- brownish: impurities
- white: pure, safer to snort.

[Slutboat]

Danza you just got knocked the fuck out in this thread.

[DirtyDanza]

Originally Posted by Slutboat

Danza you just got knocked the fuck out in this thread.

not really... I still don't buy the whole "it never happend" type deal...

so where's his birth cert?

[NaughtyVisions]

Originally Posted by cambaby

Hey dumb fucks its absolutely accurate, its all semantics, even Snopes says that listing it as MULTIPLE. This man IS a closet socialist, racist and a muslim sympathizer.

Jesus Christ, can you read? Yes, it says MULTIPLE, because some of the sentences are in his book. BUT, if you read the fucking article, or Thunderballs' post, you would see that every one (if it exists) was taken out of context or shortened to look bad.

For example, I write a book, in which at some point I have this conversation with someone:

"Yeah, I like to fuck goats."

"Really? That's sick."

"Oh, but you should feel how they push back."

"What the fuck is wrong with you?"

"Nothing. I'm just screwing with you. Bestiality is sick."

So someone wants to trash me and says,

You're going to do business with this guy? He's an animal fucker. This is from his book:

"I like to fuck goats. You should feel how they push back."

Technically, I said them in my book, but does that make it true?

Jesus Christ. I feel like I just had a talk with my 9 year old son. Did I really have to fucking explain that to you?

[Deej]

Ive seen Danza's Breasts... they are all natural...

[Pics Traffic]

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza

not really... I still don't buy the whole "it never happend" type deal...

so where's his birth cert?

Have you been KOed too many times during you short MMA career?

[cambaby]

Originally Posted by NaughtyVisions

"Yeah, I like to fuck goats."

You sick motherfucker.

[Deej]

Originally Posted by Slow Roosevelt

Have you been KOed too many times during you short MMA career?

actually its 1-0 his favor with a knockout... sooooooo

come back with something good...

[NaughtyVisions]

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza

not really... I still don't buy the whole "it never happend" type deal...

so where's his birth cert?

http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=984682

Originally Posted by NaughtyVisions

I usually stay out of political threads, but I'm really curious to see some proof of this. Because my searching ending in the following:

This doesn?t even chronologically make sense. His mom didn?t meet/marry Lolo Soetoro until Barack was about 4 or 5. She was married to Obama, Sr., when Obama, Jr., was born. Why would he have been Barry Soetoro from birth?

He has provided a physical copy of his birth certificate. Annenberg?s Factcheck has verified it.

Born in the U.S.A. - The truth about Obama's birth certificate

From their article:

Summary
In June, the Obama campaign released a digitally scanned image of his birth certificate to quell speculative charges that he might not be a natural-born citizen. But the image prompted more blog-based skepticism about the document's authenticity. And recently, author Jerome Corsi, whose book attacks Obama, said in a TV interview that the birth certificate the campaign has is "fake."

We beg to differ. FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as "supporting documents" to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.

(click image for large version)



In late July, a researcher looking to dig up dirt on Obama instead found a birth announcement that had been published in the Honolulu Advertiser on Sunday, Aug. 13, 1961:


Just asking where the proof is otherwise...

[ThunderBalls]

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza

not really... I still don't buy the whole "it never happend" type deal...

so where's his birth cert?

How many times can a person get owned in one thread?

[fatfoo]

A lot is written in the Audacity of Hope about equality.

[NaughtyVisions]

Originally Posted by fatfoo

A lot is written in the Audacity of Hope about equality.

That post was more intelligent than half the shit in this thread.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza

obama fans please explain this to me ....

from his books...

From Dreams of My Father: "I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites."


From Dreams of My Father : "I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race."


From Dreams of My Father: "There was something about her that made me wary, a little too sure of herself, maybe and white."

From Dreams of My Father: "It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names."


From Dreams of My Father: "I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself: the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela."



And FINALLY .
and most scary:



From Audacity of Hope:
"I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."


WHO THE FUCK VOTED THIS GUY INTO OFFICE?

all these fuck wads like to PRETEND that obama DIDN'T go to a fuck whitey church for 20 years as well

[cambaby]

Originally Posted by ThunderBalls

How many times can a person get owned in one thread

1. What kind of race is "African"? LOL
2. Was he born in a manger like Jesus, because there is no hospital name listed.
3. Did a midwife deliver him, because there is no physician listed either.
4. I say "shopped" because it looks like no other birth certificate Ive ever seen.

[Pics Traffic]

Originally Posted by cambaby

1. What kind of race is "African"? LOL
2. Was he born in a manger like Jesus, because there is no hospital name listed.
3. Did a midwife deliver him, because there is no physician listed either.
4. I say "shopped" because it looks like no other birth certificate Ive ever seen.

You must have see a lot because I just pulled this on google images and didn't see any of that shit on it

[NaughtyVisions]

Originally Posted by cambaby

1. What kind of race is "African"? LOL
2. Was he born in a manger like Jesus, because there is no hospital name listed.
3. Did a midwife deliver him, because there is no physician listed either.
4. I say "shopped" because it looks like no other birth certificate Ive ever seen.

Originally Posted by NaughtyVisions

Again from http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...n_the_usa.html

Update, August 26: We received responses to some of our questions from the Hawaii Department of Health. They couldn't tell us anything about their security paper, but they did answer another frequently-raised question: why is Obama's father's race listed as "African"? Kurt Tsue at the DOH told us that father's race and mother's race are supplied by the parents, and that "we accept what the parents self identify themselves to be." We consider it reasonable to believe that Barack Obama, Sr., would have thought of and reported himself as "African." It's certainly not the slam dunk some readers have made it out to be.

When we asked about the security borders, which look different from some other examples of Hawaii certifications of live birth, Kurt said "The borders are generated each time a certified copy is printed. A citation located on the bottom left hand corner of the certificate indicates which date the form was revised." He also confirmed that the information in the short form birth certificate is sufficient to prove citizenship for "all reasonable purposes."

Why do I feel like I already had this conversation today?

[cambaby]

Originally Posted by Slow Roosevelt

You must have see a lot because I just pulled this on google images and didn't see any of that shit on it

Thats not a "Birth Certificate".

[cambaby]

Originally Posted by NaughtyVisions

Why do I feel like I already had this conversation today?

So the State of Hawaii would accept me saying that "Klingon" is my race? Yeah right nice try buddy.

[DirtyDanza]

yet im the one being owned?

hardly as and I love how the comments people fire back are personal attacks..

for the record I have never been KO'd (put to sleep) ive hit a knee a few times....

[ThunderBalls]

Originally Posted by cambaby

1. What kind of race is "African"? LOL
2. Was he born in a manger like Jesus, because there is no hospital name listed.
3. Did a midwife deliver him, because there is no physician listed either.
4. I say "shopped" because it looks like no other birth certificate Ive ever seen.

You truly are a nut job.

[cambaby]

Originally Posted by ThunderBalls

You truly are a nut job.

Again you nitwit that is NOT a BIRTH RECORD its a certification of birth saying that the custodian of birth records has a birth record within that county, state. READ THE FUCKING THING.

There are federal laws against faking a birth record, there are only state laws against fake a state certificate.

[NaughtyVisions]

Originally Posted by cambaby

Thats not a "Birth Certificate".

So neither is this, even though it specifically says "Birth Certificate?" Contains the exact same info...

Originally Posted by cambaby

So the State of Hawaii would accept me saying that "Klingon" is my race? Yeah right nice try buddy.

1) Klingon is fictional.
2) I didn't make the argument. Factcheck.org did. But it is reasonable, unless you think you're a fucking Klingon.

[Pics Traffic]

Originally Posted by cambaby

Again you nitwit that is NOT a BIRTH RECORD its a certification of birth saying that the custodian of birth records has a birth record within that county, state. READ THE FUCKING THING.

There are federal laws against faking a birth record, there are only state laws against fake a state certificate.

Moron..

[Agent 488]

Dirty Danza

Question #4
How come you never made it past the 6th grade? Too stupid?

you learn everything you need to know by the 3rd grade.. (play nice with others, share, say please and thank you) and I have ADHD so sitting in school was never my deal plus I loved drugs.. I will fill in more on the next question

http://www.ambushinterview.com/72/interview72.html

[Pics Traffic]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

Dirty Danza

Question #4
How come you never made it past the 6th grade? Too stupid?

you learn everything you need to know by the 3rd grade.. (play nice with others, share, say please and thank you) and I have ADHD so sitting in school was never my deal plus I loved drugs.. I will fill in more on the next question

http://www.ambushinterview.com/72/interview72.html

Now I get this guy. No more questions. Im out of here.

[Deej]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

Dirty Danza

Question #4
How come you never made it past the 6th grade? Too stupid?

you learn everything you need to know by the 3rd grade.. (play nice with others, share, say please and thank you) and I have ADHD so sitting in school was never my deal plus I loved drugs.. I will fill in more on the next question

http://www.ambushinterview.com/72/interview72.html

you bastard

[directfiesta]

I stopped at Danza and book in the same sentence...

[Vick!]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

Dirty Danza

Question #4
How come you never made it past the 6th grade? Too stupid?

you learn everything you need to know by the 3rd grade.. (play nice with others, share, say please and thank you) and I have ADHD so sitting in school was never my deal plus I loved drugs.. I will fill in more on the next question

http://www.ambushinterview.com/72/interview72.html

you fucked the thread

[Pics Traffic]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

I stopped at Danza and book in the same sentence...

Thats racist.

[Raf1]

Originally Posted by Slow Roosevelt

[bbobby86]

Originally Posted by Slow Roosevelt

... for the president...

[BlackCrayon]

haha, what a dummy passing around these fake emails and forum posts.

[cambaby]

Haha you posted a birth certificate for a Segway and you call me a moron?

Originally Posted by Slow Roosevelt

Moron..