are you a thoughtful automobile driver?

[dyna mo]

when you drive, do you try and pay attention to what other drivers are trying to do or where they are going, traffic flow, needing to merge, etc and adjust your driving?

[ottopottomouse]

if you don't you won't live long

assume everybody else on the road is a fucking idiot and you'll be safe.

[MaDalton]

oh yeah - for sure. and it saved me more than once

Absolutely. It's saved my ass several times before.

[LAJ]

I'm an excellent driver.

[dyna mo]

i don't think any of y'all drive in l.a.! hahahah

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

i don't think any of y'all drive in l.a.! hahahah

i'm used to drive 150 mp/h on german highways - can't do that while writing text messages or eating ;)

[dirtybaker1331]

I use turn signals at 3am out of habit. Most people don't use turn signals driving 80+ mph on busy freeways. I always assume people are idiots so I never ride up people's asses like a lot of my friends do.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

i'm used to drive 150 mp/h on german highways - can't do that while writing text messages or eating ;)

yeah, they keep it down to around 110mph while texting in these parts

[LAJ]

I drove in LA for 13 years

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by LAJ

I drove in LA for 13 years

i hear ya, i drove in austin for a few years myself, ugh.

[theking]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

when you drive, do you try and pay attention to what other drivers are trying to do or where they are going, traffic flow, needing to merge, etc and adjust your driving?

Yes...of course.

[beemk]

i do, not because im courteous, but because most people cant drive for shit and im afraid they might hit me.

[czarina]

I'm an OK driver. My only accident was over 10 years ago.

[heymatty]

I you own an SUV in Scottsdale I think you are forced to go to some class about how not to let people merge in front of you. Women being even worse than guys it seems.

Come on people it's not a big deal to let someone change lanes!

[baddog]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

i don't think any of y'all drive in l.a.! hahahah

LA has better (more courteous) drivers than any place I can think of. US or EU. Okay, upon further thought, as there are laws against aggressiveness in Germany, they may be forced to be more courteous there.

[Tom_PM]

When I drove I was always on the defense. Now when I walk, I'm still looking at traffic as a danger. People get crazy when driving. Keyboard warriors can only aspire to be as callous and detached as road raging jerkwads.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by baddog

LA has better (more courteous) drivers than any place I can think of. US or EU. Okay, upon further thought, as there are laws against aggressiveness in Germany, they may be forced to be more courteous there.

my experience is not the same.

[Highest Def]

I could write volumes on how good a driver I think I am, and how bad I know most other drivers are. Even as I'm typing this I'm resisting the urge to go off on a rant

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

When I drove I was always on the defense. Now when I walk, I'm still looking at traffic as a danger. People get crazy when driving. Keyboard warriors can only aspire to be as callous and detached as road raging jerkwads.

it's funny you mention that, i've noticed peeps in crossing walks rarely make eye contact, even mom's pushing baby strollers just charge on out, with the baby in the carriage leading the way.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Highest Def

I could write volumes on how good a driver I think I am, and how bad I know most other drivers are. Even as I'm typing this I'm resisting the urge to go off on a rant

[CarlosTheGaucho]

Definitely,

It's usually not that hard to spot "problematic" drivers, it's basically a couple stereotypes that turn up over and over again.

According to my experience - usually the places with the worst traffic have the best drivers, cause they're forced to anticipate.

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho

Definitely,

It's usually not that hard to spot "problematic" drivers, it's basically a couple stereotypes that turn up over and over again.

According to my experience - usually the places with the worst traffic have the best drivers, cause they're forced to anticipate.

Czech Republic has some of the worst drivers ever. I'm always surprised that not more get killed every day

[dyna mo]

let me ask the question another way. say you are in a left turn lane waiting for the left turn light at an intersection you know has a short left turn signal. as you wait for the green, you look in your rearview and notice several cars behind you that also need to turn left. so when the light turns green, do you move forward quickly so more cars can go, or do you not give a shit what happens to those cars behind you?

that's an example of the *thoughtfulness* i am referring to.

are you thoughtful that way?

[Quagmire]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

i don't think any of y'all drive in l.a.! hahahah

Come on up to Toronto and enjoy a rush hour. People are retarded on the roads here.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Quagmire

Come on up to Toronto and enjoy a rush hour. People are retarded on the roads here.

if they are anything like the drivers in vancouver.............

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by Quagmire

Come on up to Toronto and enjoy a rush hour. People are retarded on the roads here.

tell Marina to stop driving at rush hours then...

[baddog]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

my experience is not the same.

I'd venture to guess that I have more.

Originally Posted by dyna mo

let me ask the question another way. say you are in a left turn lane waiting for the left turn light at an intersection you know has a short left turn signal. as you wait for the green, you look in your rearview and notice several cars behind you that also need to turn left. so when the light turns green, do you move forward quickly so more cars can go, or do you not give a shit what happens to those cars behind you?

that's an example of the *thoughtfulness* i am referring to.

are you thoughtful that way?

I am not going to obstruct with the right of way of someone else just so people behind me can catch a break. As far as moving quickly, I move as quickly as can be done safely.

[Kenny B!]

I was hit this weekend while my car was parked outside the hotel at the Qwebec expo, i need defensive parking lessons lol.

[John-ACWM]

I have to. I always like to analyze the other drivers. It's a way of learning how not to act while driving. And of course, we all make mistakes sometimes.

[Semi-Retired-Dave]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

when you drive, do you try and pay attention to what other drivers are trying to do or where they are going, traffic flow, needing to merge, etc and adjust your driving?

If you don't, don't ever buy a Motorcycle.
This is the cause of life or death. Mind reading is the number one key in riding Motorcycles.

[Jman]

I am, I use my car ONLY if I need to. If I can walk, ride bike I prefer to do so. City driving is just not my thing and I live in an area where you have all the best places walking distance ;)

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by baddog

I'd venture to guess that I have more.



I am not going to obstruct with the right of way of someone else just so people behind me can catch a break. As far as moving quickly, I move as quickly as can be done safely.

prolly, but i don't think you are that much older than me eh. maybe, never thought about it actually. i've been driving for what, 31+ years i figure.


yes, moving quickly, paying attention to the flow of traffic, that's the sort of thoughtfulness i am referring to!

[baddog]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

prolly, but i don't think you are that much older than me eh. maybe, never thought about it actually. i've been driving for what, 31+ years i figure.


yes, moving quickly, paying attention to the flow of traffic, that's the sort of thoughtfulness i am referring to!

I have 40+ years, but was not talking about the amount of time, but rather the number of different places I have driven.

If you think LA drivers suck, try Chicago, anywhere in Indiana, rush hour in Houston or Louisville. I could go on.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave

If you don't, don't ever buy a Motorcycle.
This is the cause of life or death. Mind reading is the number one key in riding Motorcycles.

QFT! being able to have great peripheral vision is another biggie eh

[GrouchyAdmin]

I drive like a paranoid meth user.

If you're anywhere near me, I'm going to get the fuck away from you. No, you may not ride behind me for a bit less drag, or beside me because you're bored. Get the fuck away from me.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by baddog

I have 40+ years, but was not talking about the amount of time, but rather the number of different places I have driven.

If you think LA drivers suck, try Chicago, anywhere in Indiana, rush hour in Houston or Louisville. I could go on.

oh, i see, not sure if that's the case then, i've lived in dozens of places, including houston.

traveled via car/motorcycle all over the states, a few places abroad.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

oh, i see, not sure if that's the case then, i've lived in dozens of places, including houston.

traveled via car/motorcycle all over the states, a few places abroad.

Then you were not paying attention.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by baddog

Then you were not paying attention.

that's an out of the blue assumption. and incorrect.

[bronco67]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

when you drive, do you try and pay attention to what other drivers are trying to do or where they are going, traffic flow, needing to merge, etc and adjust your driving?

yes.

You get back what you put in when on the road. I judge people by the way they drive, and if someone drives like an asshole, there's a high probability they are an asshole.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

that's an out of the blue assumption. and incorrect.

Then let me re-word it. Your experience was prior to moving to LA so you were not able to accurately compare. Kind of like people that move here from NY or MI, decide they hate it and move back home only to realize that they actually like LA a lot more.

[ottopottomouse]

I've driven in Paris and i'm still alive.

[LeRoy]

I'm in LA.

The main thing is the "Thanks Wave" or the "I Fucked up and I'm sorry wave"

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by baddog

Then let me re-word it. Your experience was prior to moving to LA so you were not able to accurately compare. Kind of like people that move here from NY or MI, decide they hate it and move back home only to realize that they actually like LA a lot more.

thx for rephrasing, but that's not an accurate summary of my view/feelings/thoughts on the matter.

fact is, i love los angeles. i love the roads, highways, views, places- everything.

i think the level of thoughtfulness with drivers here is no greater or worse than anywhere else i've driven/ridden. is it the same as it was 30 years ago, of course not. there are a lot more people on the roads these days, makes a big difference.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by baddog

LA has better (more courteous) drivers than any place I can think of. US or EU. Okay, upon further thought, as there are laws against aggressiveness in Germany, they may be forced to be more courteous there.

That just might be the dumbest thing I've ever heard anyone say.

Ever.

[SuzzyQ]

The Worst Drivers in the U.S. Live in...

1. New Jersey
2. Washington, DC
3. New York
4. Massachusetts
5. Georgia
6. Mississippi
7. Hawaii
8. Lousiana
9. West Virginia
10. Maryland

http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com...-U-S-Live-in-/

[xmas13]

http://tinyurl.com/2346ddd

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Rochard

That just might be the dumbest thing I've ever heard anyone say.

Ever.

What part?

[baddog]

Originally Posted by SuzzyQ

The Worst Drivers in the U.S. Live in...

1. New Jersey
2. Washington, DC
3. New York
4. Massachusetts
5. Georgia
6. Mississippi
7. Hawaii
8. Lousiana
9. West Virginia
10. Maryland

http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com...-U-S-Live-in-/

Knowing the rules and following them are not exactly the same thing.

[Vendzilla]

I grew up in the LA area, I drove a 1970 dodge pickup 4x4 with a 440 magnum, home made bumpers, during the 80's . I loved driving it because is scared people.
Remember all the freeway shootings? For a while everyone was a nice driver, LOL