how many sites do youy promote?

[DVTimes]

do you push a few sites are spread your bets by promoting loads of sites?

And what converts best for you?

[Calico Jack]

Used to be any site that was promotable. However these days I send traffic mainly to about 10 programs that have been around for years and are reliable. I promote smaller sites/prog is they have something different & unique to push.

[CurrentlySober]

Just this one!

[V_RocKs]

I started out with perhaps 10 sites on 5 programs... I made $x amount of money. My theory was that if I made those sales I could hit the 100 minimum payouts faster. Then I came to GFY and in everyone's sigs were all of these really cool sites and so I branched out and pretty soon I found myself promoting 400 sites in 40 programs...

My income went up by ($sites*$programs)/100 = $x or $x * 160...

So if $x was $80 actually paid out in a month before, a year later it became 12,800 a month paid...

I documented all of this shit back in like 2006 or 2007... do some searching... Even wrote a perl program to calculate this kind of shit.

So why did that huge growth happen? Because my surfers don't like the same shit over and over again. Plus, bookmarkers that buy from you will often come back and buy more again and again... If they trust you and they enjoy what you find for them, they will keep your pockets full of cash...

If I gave them the same 20 sites over and over they'd stop coming back and I'd get the lucky sale every 20,000th surfer instead of the dedicated sale every 1,000th... Do the math...

[HandballJim]

5 at the moment but the one I promote in my Sig. does the best for me.

[kada]

too many.. lost count

[Fenris Wolf]

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

So why did that huge growth happen? Because my surfers don't like the same shit over and over again. Plus, bookmarkers that buy from you will often come back and buy more again and again... If they trust you and they enjoy what you find for them, they will keep your pockets full of cash...

Very true. Thanks for that reply.

Just don't get greedy and abuse that trust by pushing shady programs.

[mcfester]

Shemale niche is always constant, although some sponsors have folded ;-)

[bbobby86]

2 or 3 at one time...

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by DVTimes

And what converts best for you?

How long have you been doing this? 6 years?

You still think that there is 'a site' that converts best for 'everyone' regardless if they have big tit, or black midget traffic?

You're so pointless man.

[Wiredoctor]

I usuakky stick to just a few select sites. I did just start promoting a new celeb site www.payingsolutions.com and doing prettyt good so far. It's just out of beta but looks promising and good support people there.

[Raf1]

too many. I'm checking my sites today to see what can be cut off.

[dicksman42]

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

I started out with perhaps 10 sites on 5 programs... I made $x amount of money. My theory was that if I made those sales I could hit the 100 minimum payouts faster. Then I came to GFY and in everyone's sigs were all of these really cool sites and so I branched out and pretty soon I found myself promoting 400 sites in 40 programs...

My income went up by ($sites*$programs)/100 = $x or $x * 160...

So if $x was $80 actually paid out in a month before, a year later it became 12,800 a month paid...

I documented all of this shit back in like 2006 or 2007... do some searching... Even wrote a perl program to calculate this kind of shit.

So why did that huge growth happen? Because my surfers don't like the same shit over and over again. Plus, bookmarkers that buy from you will often come back and buy more again and again... If they trust you and they enjoy what you find for them, they will keep your pockets full of cash...

If I gave them the same 20 sites over and over they'd stop coming back and I'd get the lucky sale every 20,000th surfer instead of the dedicated sale every 1,000th... Do the math...

Thanks....I always read your post

[ArsewithClass]

As we are content producers, we only promote our own websites & our own content, we do not have lousy backend sales in our members areas, nor do we have xsales.

However, we have started to promote Twistys in our emails that we send out to our previous members. It's a promotional deal with Twistys as our content is shown in their tube site "sextube" with our link & banner on the page.

[TeenCat]

i think i have linked big part of adult paysites, but only small part is making me money anyway, you are asking questions like some noob, and i am sure this is only bad for your business. who will signup to program where owner knows shit about what he do ...

[amateurcanada]

Well everyone should be promoting our gorgeous Canadian girls - they sell - they make money :D But you should never put all your eggs in one basket. Also use a stats program to make sure your getting paid without nagging people and getting no where.

[2intense]

just 4 , pussycash is my favourite

[DVTimes]

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass

As we are content producers, we only promote our own websites & our own content, we do not have lousy backend sales in our members areas, nor do we have xsales.

However, we have started to promote Twistys in our emails that we send out to our previous members. It's a promotional deal with Twistys as our content is shown in their tube site "sextube" with our link & banner on the page.

no one is interested in your views.

your sites suck and only get 5 sales.

please do not hyjack my threads.

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass

However, we have started to promote Twistys

Glad to see you are taking my advice on promoting other sites Gary!

You should also do upsells in your members' area.

[Roald]

How many sites? Pfff no idea. About 1500 sponsors programs though lol

[Yanks_Todd]

we stick to between 6-10

[ArsewithClass]

Originally Posted by DVTimes

no one is interested in your views.

your sites suck and only get 5 sales.

please do not hyjack my threads.

Hijacking a thread??? You really are a divvy little wanker

Have you actually looked at our sites & your own... You could start a homemade footage site, that would fit your content better

Have you worked out how to hold a camera & move with it yet?

Originally Posted by DamianJ

Glad to see you are taking my advice on promoting other sites Gary!

You should also do upsells in your members' area.

Looks like you were interested in my post. But NO thank to the upsells in the members area...

We do not taken advice in promoting sites. We promote www.twistys.com as it has a promotional join fee, in return for our scenes, banner & link shown on www.sextube.com

We run our business the same as we did 5 years ago

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass

Looks like you were interested in my post. But NO thank to the upsells in the members area...

I'm always interested in your posts. You share some real wisdom with the community.

As a matter of interest, how many sites have you joined? Do you know that 95% of the industry does member upsells? This is not a prechecked cross sale or anything like that. It is just a simple ad, say for twistys, within your members' area. It will convert very very well as the people in that area have a credit card and like porn.

Ask other people you know in the biz, post here, but really, you are missing a HUGE trick not doing upsells.

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass

We do not taken advice in promoting sites.

Well last week you said you never promoted other sites, I told you to, and now you are promoting Twistys. That's cool. Well done on taking my advice despite our past. Shows you are the bigger man.

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass

We promote www.twistys.com as it has a promotional join fee

Every site does.

Interesting shap doesn't mind you emailing YOUR ex-members to promote HIS site. Many programmes specifically forbid that, because it is usually illegal.

You must be a real playa to get him to agree! Well done you!

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass

We run our business the same as we did 5 years ago

Apart from taking the rape stuff off, something else I advised you on!
Just a misunderstanding with Epoch, I know!

[ArsewithClass]

Originally Posted by DamianJ

I'm always interested in your posts. You share some real wisdom with the community.

As a matter of interest, how many sites have you joined? Do you know that 95% of the industry does member upsells? This is not a prechecked cross sale or anything like that. It is just a simple ad, say for twistys, within your members' area. It will convert very very well as the people in that area have a credit card and like porn.

Ask other people you know in the biz, post here, but really, you are missing a HUGE trick not doing upsells.

Well last week you said you never promoted other sites, I told you to, and now you are promoting Twistys. That's cool. Well done on taking my advice despite our past. Shows you are the bigger man.

Interesting shap doesn't mind you emailing YOUR ex-members to promote HIS site. Many programmes specifically forbid that, because it is usually illegal.

Apart from taking the rape stuff off, something else I advised you on!
Just a misunderstanding with Epoch, I know!

I find sarcasm is the lowest form of wit... Its usually for the unhappy.

Ive joined a few sites in the past & certainly do not wish to upsell, we give our members enough content & our affiliates appreciate the income, especially with the recurring.

We do not or do not need to promote other websites, we only mention the 1 website as favour for favour, So no advice taken for promoting other websites. Am I not entitled to post in a thread with title of which sites do we promote? As said, only our own, although we let people know of the other site....

We email our members to tell them about news that may interested them. We give them offers & inform them about our latest adventures, this certainly cannot be illegal. Especially as we do not harrass, with the 1 email.

It wasnt rape now was it Weasel... It was a hardcore gangbanging.... And that scene is still in the members area of www.adult-excitement.co.uk/freetour.html



Is your record broken too

[blonda80]

tons .

[Chosen]

A few ones...

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass

Ive joined a few sites in the past & certainly do not wish to upsell,

Why do you not wish to upsell?

If I said to you, I have 5 people with credit cards who like buying porn, would you not want to put an ad for arsewithclass in front of them?

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass

we give our members enough content & our affiliates appreciate the income, especially with the recurring.

Why do you think pushing an upsell will deprive affs of income of reduce the amount of content you offer your members?

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass

We do not or do not need to promote other websites, we only mention the 1 website as favour for favour

I bet Shap is grateful for the joins. I wish I was in a position to play with the big boys like you. Maybe one day.

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass

So no advice taken for promoting other websites.

Well, you weren't doing it last week, and then I told you to, and now you are. But I get that you are still 'in character' and pretending to be stupid.

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass

It wasnt rape now was it

Yeah. the problem was you put RAPE on the tour, didn't you? Which is why Epoch stopped your processing. Still, that was just a silly mistake I helped you sort out and now there is no problem! So all is good!

But fuck Epoch, you are partners with Shap now. You are a playa. I envy you.

[ArsewithClass]

Originally Posted by DamianJ

Why do you not wish to upsell?
If I said to you, I have 5 people with credit cards who like buying porn, would you not want to put an ad for arsewithclass in front of them?

Why do you think pushing an upsell will deprive affs of income of reduce the amount of content you offer your members?

Well, you weren't doing it last week, and then I told you to, and now you are. But I get that you are still 'in character' and pretending to be stupid.

Yeah. the problem was you put RAPE on the tour, didn't you? Which is why Epoch stopped your processing. Still, that was just a silly mistake I helped you sort out and now there is no problem! So all is good!

But fuck Epoch, you are partners with Shap now. You are a playa. I envy you.

We do not upsell other sites as we produce our own content. Yes, obviously I would show our content sites to 5 individuals with money ready... WTF???

Some of our affiliates are on recurring, if I drive our members to other sites, we get paid, our affiliates would not.

Repeating this one last time for you.... Im promoting twistys as a favour for a favour.

I do not understand why you spend so much time questioning our business & work. Natalie & I are happy with our sales, work, business & our members like our content & sites. Why would I want to promote other sites & content when ours is original & decent also.

Your final problem, yes, I did write rape on my tour & it was a stupid drunken mistake, considering I was only trying to make a simple hardcore gangbanging sound a little more pzaz... However, I was new to the business & would not attempt to advertise using such prolific & dangerous use of words.

Considering Natalie & I are very straight, honest & easy to get on with, you didnt help sort out a problem. Instead of simply phoning or emailing us & saying "you cannot use the word rape even though your'e obviously NOT going to film your wife raped", Which would have been helping a new, up & coming pornstar & producer at the time. Instead, you went to epoch & informed the that I was promoting rape. You're an attention seeking weasel & have even felt the need to follow Natalie & I around, using any means to harrass & basically stalk us.

You even read our twitter to write the same in your own, impersonating myself & writing that guys could come around & fuck Natalie in mcdonalds! Had you not thought that maybe a weirdo could have gone in mcdonalds where children are! Seriously, you showed you are a fucking intolerable arsehole with no thought to anyone apart from themselves!

Honestly, your a bit of a dick & could have put people in harm!

I dont like you, you dont me.... But its not me with the problem, so lets just leave it here, especially now i've answered your silly broken record questions.

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass

We do not upsell other sites as we produce our own content.

Every other site I have ever seen that produces its content also upsells. It's standard practise and it surprises me you don't do it Gary, considering you're a 5 year vet of this biz!

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass

Repeating this one last time for you.... Im promoting twistys as a favour for a favour.

I know. I understand. I am saying it is really cool that you send to many sales to Shap that he kindly allows your content on his tube.

It's not like just ANYONE can get on his tube.

He must love your stuff and really like you. That is well cool.

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass

I do not understand why you spend so much time questioning our business & work.

I'm a marketing consultant Gary, I help people make more money from their sites. If you added member upsells you should add around 30% to your bottom line. Overnight. If you added telephone billing you'd add another 15%. It pains me to see someone clearly as successful as you missing some really simple things to make more money. I am trying to help you as a gesture of good will for all the time I took the piss out of you when I didn't understand your whole character is a persona.

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass

Why would I want to promote other sites

To make more money. A lot more money.

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass

Your final problem, yes, I did write rape on my tour & it was a stupid drunken mistake, considering I was only trying to make a simple hardcore gangbanging sound a little more pzaz...

I know, I was on your side all the time. However, most people don't really think of rape as pizazz. More like an horrific sex crime. Not really very sexy. I knew where you were coming from and I knew it was just a silly mistake. Glad I helped you see and it got sorted. If you want to get a cascade going with Epoch, I am having lunch with them in Amsterdam and will put in a good word. If you had a cascade you would pick up an additional 10% from the CCBill declines.

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass

Instead, you went to epoch & informed the that I was promoting rape.

No I didn't. And unless you have proof of that, I expect an apology. I support you and try and help you. Look back on the B&B thread if you need reminding. I am no grass, Gary.

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass

I dont like you, you dont me....

I have nothing but love and respect for you Gary, I've buried the hatchet, am giving you free advice, fixing your site's mistakes, and offering to sort out that little rape misunderstanding with Epoch.

(But it's cool, I get that this animosity is still your "stupid" character! Wink wink! Hit me up on ICQ or email to get the Epoch thing sorted)

[ArsewithClass]

Originally Posted by DamianJ

No I didn't. And unless you have proof of that, I expect an apology. I support you and try and help you. Look back on the B&B thread if you need reminding. I am no grass, Gary.

I have nothing but love and respect for you Gary, I've buried the hatchet, am giving you free advice, fixing your site's mistakes, and offering to sort out that little rape misunderstanding with Epoch.

(But it's cool, I get that this animosity is still your "stupid" character! Wink wink! Hit me up on ICQ or email to get the Epoch thing sorted)

You get pleasure insulting people, as you did, myself & Natalie many years ago, especially on B&B. If you cannot admit to your shame, not to worry

I do not need reminding of the twisted attacks from yourself of which you still are twistig commens... "offering to sort out"? You recently posted on B&B forum "I hate Gary, I want him dead". I have not posted on that forum for over a year. You have the problem. Seriously, you're vindictive, always turning things around & changing what others say.

I had no hatchet to bury & still dont. I just do not like attention seeking back stabbers & do not want to associate with the likes of you.

[ArsewithClass]

Damian

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass

You even read our twitter to write the same in your own, impersonating myself & writing that guys could come around & fuck Natalie in mcdonalds! Had you not thought that maybe a weirdo could have gone in mcdonalds where children are! Seriously, you showed you are a fucking intolerable arsehole with no thought to anyone apart from themselves!

Honestly, your a bit of a dick & could have put people in harm!

I dont like you, you dont me.... But its not me with the problem, so lets just leave it here, especially now i've answered your silly broken record questions.

Did you not read this & feel sick? Seriously... you added on a twitter account, impersonating myself & Natalie. "We were going down Mcdonalds near the local harvester to meet guys in the public toilets, come & meet us."

You put children at harm!


I suggest you stop your childish games.

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass

Damian

Gary!

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass

Did you not read this & feel sick?

No. I felt pleased you had replied to me. Warmth spread throughout my body.

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass

Seriously... you added on a twitter account, impersonating myself & Natalie. "We were going down Mcdonalds near the local harvester to meet guys in the public toilets, come & meet us."

Yes, I was being an affiliate, pretending to be you to drive traffic to your site. My Twitter pretending to be you have about 5 times the followers of your real one. I was doing you a favour. As you advertise sex for 50 quid, I thought you would pick up johns at places like harvester. It was dramatic license.

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass

You put children at harm!

How did I put children at harm by posting on twitter that you were going to MacDonalds? Please don't accuse me, your new friend, of doing something illegal Gary. I'd hate to see you banned. Again. Especially as we've buried the hatchet now!

What are you up to this weekend? Something fun I hope!

See ya later, mater!

HEE HEE LOL!