MoneyBookers vs. PayPal Epassporte etc. - GoFuckYourself.com

AmeliaG · 09-21-2004, 08:02 PM

Been getting some recommendations for MoneyBookers and was shown how to do the buy now button with that system. What do folks here think about the MoneyBookers system?

johndoebob · 09-21-2004, 08:04 PM

I'm happy with them since they opened (in 2001 I think).

Also they're UK based and have a license and not on some caribian island where nobody could take them to court.

Persius · 09-21-2004, 08:05 PM

never heard of them

Kimmykim · 09-21-2004, 08:43 PM

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Originally posted by johndoebob
I'm happy with them since they opened (in 2001 I think).

Also they're UK based and have a license and not on some caribian island where nobody could take them to court.

If you're referring to ePassporte, please keep in mind that Curacao belongs to Holland.

johndoebob · 09-21-2004, 08:52 PM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim
If you're referring to ePassporte, please keep in mind that Curacao belongs to Holland.

The laws on curacao are totally different, they don't have euro as their currency etc. and I doubt I'd have any success when I wanted to sue anybody there.

Btw. according to Master Card your verification methods are illegal in europe that's why I can't open an account.

SpeakEasy · 09-21-2004, 09:09 PM

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Originally posted by johndoebob
The laws on curacao are totally different, they don't have euro as their currency etc. and I doubt I'd have any success when I wanted to sue anybody there.

Btw. according to Master Card your verification methods are illegal in europe that's why I can't open an account.

Hummmmmmmmmm Interresting

Freakster · 09-21-2004, 09:46 PM

Moneybookers won't let me open an account because I don't have a passport... so.. f them

AmeliaG · 09-21-2004, 10:28 PM

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Originally posted by Freakster
Moneybookers won't let me open an account because I don't have a passport... so.. f them

Really? They didn't ask me for a passport. I've had a personal account with both epassporte and moneybookers for some time now and had no difficulty signing up for either.

Both were kind of difficult to fund though. Epassporte, in my opinion, is easier to fund for a personal account but not for business and I'm looking for a business solution. Moneybookers seems easier to get your money out of. I did so like the PayPal thing where I didn't have to have the money in paypal, just in my bank account or credit card, in order to spend with paypal. With one of the alternatives would set that up. I hate transferring stuff around so it never comes up even.

KK, if you are still reading this thread, it would be awesome if you could answer my email about how to set up a buy now button with the epassporte system.

Agent 488 · 09-06-2010, 07:11 AM

CyberHustler · 09-06-2010, 07:17 AM

Paypal has passed the test of time so far... Other than that it's checks and direct deposit for me.

After this epass shit, I ain't fuckin' with no other similar companies, but Paypal... and that's because I've had my Paypal account for about 11 years now or something.

Everybody else can eat a dick. Payoneer, moneybookers, revupcard, etc... they can all eat a fat dick.

slayer69 · 09-06-2010, 07:19 AM

Using them for years. Sometimes a withdraw to the bank will take a while but reliable and safe. Also, take a look at ecocard.com

area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE · 09-06-2010, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by NanoBot

Paypal has passed the test of time so far... Other than that it's checks and direct deposit for me.

After this epass shit, I ain't fuckin' with no other similar companies, but Paypal... and that's because I've had my Paypal account for about 11 years now or something.

Everybody else can eat a dick. Payoneer, moneybookers, revupcard, etc... they can all eat a fat dick.

they will miss your $5

Klen · 09-06-2010, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by NanoBot

Paypal has passed the test of time so far... Other than that it's checks and direct deposit for me.

After this epass shit, I ain't fuckin' with no other similar companies, but Paypal... and that's because I've had my Paypal account for about 11 years now or something.

Everybody else can eat a dick. Payoneer, moneybookers, revupcard, etc... they can all eat a fat dick.

Why they can eat a dick?I know MB suck due lack of atm card,maximum amount in account and high fee for bussiness accounts,revupcard is out of bussiness,but payoneer still works fine.

CyberHustler · 09-06-2010, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by area51

they will miss your $5

Don't joke around with me like I'm one of your buddies. I probably have more sitting on my epass virtual visa than you've spent in your lifetime homie. And it ain't shit to me. You probably one of them 3rd world muh fuckas who's life just got ruined to the point of suicidal thoughts because epass is gone. Fuck outta here.

Shit, my sig prolly earns more per month than you do trying to sell free content.

CyberHustler · 09-06-2010, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

Why they can eat a dick?I know MB suck due lack of atm card,maximum amount in account and high fee for bussiness accounts,revupcard is out of bussiness,but payoneer still works fine.

Cause I'm paranoid now yo. Fuck these niggaz.

Klen · 09-06-2010, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by NanoBot

Cause I'm paranoid now yo. Fuck these niggaz.

Yes i know,but payoneer is currently only valid solution to get money fast.

2intense · 09-06-2010, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by NanoBot

Paypal has passed the test of time so far... Other than that it's checks and direct deposit for me.

After this epass shit, I ain't fuckin' with no other similar companies, but Paypal... and that's because I've had my Paypal account for about 11 years now or something.

Everybody else can eat a dick. Payoneer, moneybookers, revupcard, etc... they can all eat a fat dick.

i am using paypal for over 6 years with no issue

2intense · 09-06-2010, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by NanoBot

Don't joke around with me like I'm one of your buddies. I probably have more sitting on my epass virtual visa than you've spent in your lifetime homie. And it ain't shit to me. You probably one of them 3rd world muh fuckas who's life just got ruined to the point of suicidal thoughts because epass is gone. Fuck outta here.

Shit, my sig prolly earns more per month than you do trying to sell free content.

don't waste your time answering to AREA51 POSTS,is just a kid

Chris · 09-06-2010, 10:45 AM

didnt moneybookers so no adult like 2 or 3 years ago?

Toma · 09-06-2010, 10:47 AM

moneybookers works fine, but for mainstream and gambling. no porn

Sid70 · 09-06-2010, 10:55 AM

moneybookers do well, too bad they dont have debit card attached.

lucPL · 09-06-2010, 10:58 AM

they offer mastercard...

lucPL · 09-06-2010, 10:59 AM

moneybookers.com/ads/mastercard/

chronig · 09-06-2010, 11:02 AM

Haven't had a single problem with paypal since being fr0z3n back in like 2006 - and reopening an account under a diff bank acct #

Klen · 09-06-2010, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by lucPL

they offer mastercard...

Seems only for citizens of eu,but it is interesting thing how you can pick up to have your account in any currency,which makes it bullet proof against invisible charges

Sid70 · 09-06-2010, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by lucPL

moneybookers.com/ads/mastercard/

not for a shithole i'm in.

Wiredoctor · 09-06-2010, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG

Been getting some recommendations for MoneyBookers and was shown how to do the buy now button with that system. What do folks here think about the MoneyBookers system?

Another very good option is Alert Pay I've been using them and no glitchs at all.

Boobgirl · 09-06-2010, 01:06 PM

I emailed Moneybookers regarding using them for paying adult companies ( not for subscriptions though), this is the responce:

Thank you for contacting Moneybookers Customer Service.

We would advise you to read section 16. Compliance with Laws of our Terms and Conditions, where you can see that such payments are not allowed at Moneybookers.com.

Do not hesitate to approach us, if you have further questions.

fatfoo · 09-06-2010, 02:45 PM

A lot more people use paypal rather than moneybookers.

Chris · 09-06-2010, 03:02 PM

we havnt ever had a problem with paypal as an adult company ...ever

Dating Port · 09-06-2010, 04:35 PM

Current accounts status:

Netspend - Account fine
Epass - VV account frozen - Wallet account fine
Paypal - Account fine, $100 in 21 day hold - 3rd account to date
Moneybookers - Account opened, never used
Neteller - Account opened, never used

Klen · 09-06-2010, 05:17 PM

Funny how on paypal you can pay affiliates if you ask them(since they consider that as salary)while on moneybookers they dont wanna do that no matter what.

lagcam · 09-06-2010, 06:41 PM

Moneybookers is a good regulated service but can't be used for adult business and providing you are a real person with real ID etc you shouldn't have a problem with it. You make a p2p payment and they withdraw it to their bank.

Alertpay also cannot be used for adult business but seems to be used by virtually every other scammer too lazy to walk to western union. They did use to work with adult, and it worked fine then and they paid out so I think the service is ok for making and receiving p2p payments that people can withdraw to their bank still.

Payoneer is the closest thing to epassporte and works well, although foreign atm charges were higher than epassporte when we last used them. Accounts can only be loaded from sponsors, you can't send P2P.

baddog · 09-06-2010, 08:11 PM

I would have a problem dealing with any of them that accept gambling sites. But that is just me.

CyberHustler · 09-06-2010, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by lagcam

although foreign atm charges were higher than epassporte when we last used them. Accounts can only be loaded from sponsors, you can't send P2P.

If this is true, it's useless for me.

harvey · 09-06-2010, 09:50 PM

It always worked fine for me, however I'd recommend it only for medium to large sums, it's not very convenient if you want to withdraw small amounts since you can only request money via check or wire. The upside is it's extremely reliable, they have a real (FAST) support desk and they are insured so you won't lose your money, but it's not the same service than epass or paypal where you could withdraw money immediately.

All things being said, go Moneybookers go!

jaromir · 09-07-2010, 03:10 AM

I like more PayPal, they sending directly money to the my Czech republic bank biz accounts FOR FREE!!!

Sid70 · 09-07-2010, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by NanoBot

If this is true, it's useless for me.

Unless you sign up with 2CheckOut or Kagi that are payment processors partnered with Payoneer.

Net Money · 09-07-2010, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Wiredoctor

Another very good option is Alert Pay I've been using them and no glitchs at all.

I have also been using them and not 1 single issue ever. Very professional place to deal with.

Boobgirl · 09-07-2010, 11:48 AM

Alertpay just told me that I can setup an account to pay adult affliates, but I do have to wait to use the account for subscriptions. Sounds not bad!

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09-21-2004, 08:04 PM	#2
johndoebob Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,405	I'm happy with them since they opened (in 2001 I think). Also they're UK based and have a license and not on some caribian island where nobody could take them to court. __________________ Last edited by johndoebob; 09-21-2004 at 08:05 PM..

09-21-2004, 09:46 PM	#7
Freakster Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 833	Moneybookers won't let me open an account because I don't have a passport... so.. f them __________________ 174-38-56

09-06-2010, 10:45 AM	#19
Chris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: icq: 71462500 Skype: Jupzchris Posts: 27,880	didnt moneybookers so no adult like 2 or 3 years ago? __________________ [email protected]

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Toma Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,248	moneybookers works fine, but for mainstream and gambling. no porn __________________ .!.

09-21-2004, 08:05 PM	#3
Persius Tap into MOBILE! Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Hollywood Posts: 11,779	never heard of them

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09-06-2010, 07:17 AM	#10
CyberHustler So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 25,214	Paypal has passed the test of time so far... Other than that it's checks and direct deposit for me. After this epass shit, I ain't fuckin' with no other similar companies, but Paypal... and that's because I've had my Paypal account for about 11 years now or something. Everybody else can eat a dick. Payoneer, moneybookers, revupcard, etc... they can all eat a fat dick.

09-06-2010, 07:19 AM	#11
slayer69 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 626	Using them for years. Sometimes a withdraw to the bank will take a while but reliable and safe. Also, take a look at ecocard.com

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Sid70 Downshifter Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Road trip Posts: 16,413	moneybookers do well, too bad they dont have debit card attached. __________________ Русня, идите нахуй!

09-06-2010, 10:58 AM	#22
lucPL Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: EUCCP Posts: 305	they offer mastercard...

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lucPL Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: EUCCP Posts: 305	moneybookers.com/ads/mastercard/

09-06-2010, 11:02 AM	#24
chronig Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,653	Haven't had a single problem with paypal since being fr0z3n back in like 2006 - and reopening an account under a diff bank acct #

09-06-2010, 01:06 PM	#28
Boobgirl Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 436	I emailed Moneybookers regarding using them for paying adult companies ( not for subscriptions though), this is the responce: Thank you for contacting Moneybookers Customer Service. We would advise you to read section 16. Compliance with Laws of our Terms and Conditions, where you can see that such payments are not allowed at Moneybookers.com. Do not hesitate to approach us, if you have further questions. __________________ Dawn Allison www.dawnsplace.com www.dpdollars.com Last edited by Boobgirl; 09-06-2010 at 01:09 PM..

09-06-2010, 02:45 PM	#29
fatfoo ICQ:649699063 Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 27,763	A lot more people use paypal rather than moneybookers. __________________ Send me an email: [email protected]

09-06-2010, 03:02 PM	#30
Chris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: icq: 71462500 Skype: Jupzchris Posts: 27,880	we havnt ever had a problem with paypal as an adult company ...ever __________________ [email protected]

09-06-2010, 04:35 PM	#31
Dating Port Useless As Ever Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 731	Current accounts status: Netspend - Account fine Epass - VV account frozen - Wallet account fine Paypal - Account fine, $100 in 21 day hold - 3rd account to date Moneybookers - Account opened, never used Neteller - Account opened, never used __________________ Email: admin[at]datingport.co.uk - ICQ: 456416181 It's amazing what you (L)earn when you put some effort into it!

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Klen Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Vienna Posts: 32,235	Funny how on paypal you can pay affiliates if you ask them(since they consider that as salary)while on moneybookers they dont wanna do that no matter what.

09-06-2010, 06:41 PM	#33
lagcam Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,892	Moneybookers is a good regulated service but can't be used for adult business and providing you are a real person with real ID etc you shouldn't have a problem with it. You make a p2p payment and they withdraw it to their bank. Alertpay also cannot be used for adult business but seems to be used by virtually every other scammer too lazy to walk to western union. They did use to work with adult, and it worked fine then and they paid out so I think the service is ok for making and receiving p2p payments that people can withdraw to their bank still. Payoneer is the closest thing to epassporte and works well, although foreign atm charges were higher than epassporte when we last used them. Accounts can only be loaded from sponsors, you can't send P2P. __________________ Working Cam site for sale - NOT affiliate.

09-06-2010, 08:11 PM	#34
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,090	I would have a problem dealing with any of them that accept gambling sites. But that is just me.

09-06-2010, 09:50 PM	#36
harvey Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: 127.0.0.1 Posts: 9,266	It always worked fine for me, however I'd recommend it only for medium to large sums, it's not very convenient if you want to withdraw small amounts since you can only request money via check or wire. The upside is it's extremely reliable, they have a real (FAST) support desk and they are insured so you won't lose your money, but it's not the same service than epass or paypal where you could withdraw money immediately. All things being said, go Moneybookers go! __________________ This post is endorsed by CIA, KGB, MI6, the Mafia, Illuminati, Kim Jong Il, Worldwide Ninjas Association, Klingon Empire and lolcats. Don't mess around with it, just accept it and embrace the truth

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09-07-2010, 11:48 AM	#40
Boobgirl Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 436	Alertpay just told me that I can setup an account to pay adult affliates, but I do have to wait to use the account for subscriptions. Sounds not bad! __________________ Dawn Allison www.dawnsplace.com www.dpdollars.com