Epassporte - Interesting Info - Your money is probably in Curaçao - GoFuckYourself.com

Konda · 09-09-2010, 09:32 PM

As most of you probably know, ePassporte is incorporated in Curaçao.

People with business accounts know that wires TO ePassporte always went to Curaçao. First to Fortis bank, and lately to United Ibank. So their bank in Curaçao is where the majority of the funds are send to.

https://www.epassporte.com/secure/do...structions.pdf

ePassporte NV (Curaçao) just uses (used) the St.Kitts-Nevis-Aguila National Bank for the Virtual Visa and Visa Debit Cards.

So this could mean that the money in your ePassporte Wallet is in the Curaçao bank, and the money in your ePassporte Virtual Visa is in St. Kitts.

You can read on the back of your ePassporte Card "This card is issued by St.Kitts-Nevis-Aguila National Bank.... under co-branding agreement with between ePassporte NV...If found send to ePassporte NV... Curaçao, Netherlands Antilles)

Now the interesting thing is that the bank in Curaçao that ePassporte uses (United Ibank) is owned/managed by the same people that own/manage ePassporte.

The bank where all wire transfers to ePassporte go to is United International Bank N.V.: http://www.united-ibank.com/ (http://www.united-itrust.com/)
This bank was founded in 2009... setup by exactly the same people that setup ePassporte

So the millions of dollars that affiliate program owners combined wire to ePassporte each month go to:

United International Bank N.V.
Landhuis Joonchi 2 Kaya Richard J Beaujon Z/N Curacao, Netherlands Antilles
Account name: ePassporte N.V.

(Notice how this is the same address as on the back of your ePassporte card)

So it seems that most money is in Curaçao, in an actual bank that is managed by the same people that manage ePassporte. So whatever problems there are with the St. Kitts bank, a lot of money should be in Curaçao.

Management of United International Bank N.V.: http://www.united-itrust.com/en/our_management/

Gregory Elias

Remember when ePassporte shut down all poker relationships a few years ago. The letter that ePassporte send out to the Poker sites was signed by Managing Directors Gregory Elias and United International Trust.

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/gregory-elias/9/219/a31
Owner
the United Trust Company N.V.

The United Trust Company N.V.
Landhuis Joonchi
Kaya Richard J. Beaujon z/n
P.O. Box 837, Willemstad
Curaçao, Netherlands Antilles

http://www.manta.com/coms2/dnbcompany_87ls43
Epassporte N V
C/O: United International Trust N V
Willemstad, Netherlands Antilles

ePassporte, N.V.
Gregory Elias
Landhuis Joonchi Kaya Richard J. Beaujon z/n
Curacao, AN

directfiesta · 09-09-2010, 09:38 PM

nice info ....

lagcam · 09-09-2010, 09:40 PM

Yes you are right, that IS interesting. Nice find.

The bank being so new also explains why many banks online systems have had trouble finding the swift code to wire in.

Fenris Wolf · 09-09-2010, 09:40 PM

Nice work.

epitome · 09-09-2010, 09:49 PM

So wait, if Chris Mallick owns a bank then he can make loans to himself. For something like ... oh, I don't know ... a movie. If said movie happens to bomb, then its the shareholders of that bank, which is Epass account holders, that is on the hook.

This actually make sense ... the deficiency reported to Visa by St. Kitts may be that the bank Mallick owns was no longer able to fund transactions.

Makes perfect sense to me. Too much sense, in fact.

hypedough · 09-09-2010, 09:55 PM

No wonder their fucking SWIFT code wasn't in BofA's online system. Knew something wasn't right if I had to go in person to make wire transfers to ePass. I really hope they fall by the wayside so something easier and more simple can be implemented.

adult-help · 09-09-2010, 09:55 PM

nice info. but this could confirm why Michael is saying that we can request a wire for funds in our wallet. since it goes out from this bank.

epitome · 09-09-2010, 09:56 PM

Adding to my previous thoughts, loaning money to a production company would be even easier if Chris Mallick's name is not officially attached to the bank. The thing he'd want to do in that instance is have someone close to him own and manage the bank thereby allowing himself to get sweetheart deals. Quite a few banks in the US hit problems when they were investing in projects of its managers and/or friends and family of managers.

gumdrop · 09-09-2010, 10:01 PM

However, isn't Paramount Pictures involved?
Let's see...

Production Companies:
Paramount Pictures (presents)
Mallick Media (presents)
Oxymoron Entertainment
Middle Pictures

Between the five of them - 305+ films in the past ten years.

I am just throwing shit out there...who's funding who?
Paramount is a HUGH company...don't you think they would find the bucks?

adult-help · 09-09-2010, 10:01 PM

so is it time now that someone starts calling that bank? maybe they will know smth..

CYF · 09-09-2010, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome

So wait, if Chris Mallick owns a bank then he can make loans to himself. For something like ... oh, I don't know ... a movie. If said movie happens to bomb, then its the shareholders of that bank, which is Epass account holders, that is on the hook.

This actually make sense ... the deficiency reported to Visa by St. Kitts may be that the bank Mallick owns was no longer able to fund transactions.

Makes perfect sense to me. Too much sense, in fact.

That makes sense to me too. I'm starting to doubt we're ever going to see a penny.

epitome · 09-09-2010, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gumdrop

However, isn't Paramount Pictures involved?
Let's see...

Production Companies:
Paramount Pictures (presents)
Mallick Media (presents)
Oxymoron Entertainment
Middle Pictures

Between the five of them - 305+ films in the past ten years.

I am just throwing shit out there...who's funding who?
Paramount is a HUGH company...don't you think they would find the bucks?

As I understand it from something posted here (if it was correct), Paramount only agreed to distribute Middle Men for a fee. That would mean they didn't have their own money tied up in it, but rather charged Mallick Media/Oxymoron in order to distribute it.

Either way, Mallick's skin was in the game ... you do not get executive producer credits unless you have skin in.

The big question is whose money made the film?

I never subscribed to the conspiracy theory that Mallick stole the money. However, you only start a bank to lend money so I find it highly suspect that Mallick is now tied to an overseas bank.

This thread changed it all for me. This isn't a conspiracy theory ... this kind of stuff happens every day.

Konda · 09-09-2010, 10:07 PM

Quote:

from Larry Chavana <[email protected]>
to Larry Chavana <[email protected]>
date Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 6:30 AM
subject ePassporte's New Bank Account

Hello,

On Monday afternoon, we sent out a notice containing instructions for wiring funds to ePassporte's new bank account with United International Bank. Please be advised that the account number information provided on that form was incorrect. The correct account number for our account with United International Bank is....

Funny how someone from oxymoronent.com (= Oxymoron Entertainment / Middlemen) informs ePassporte customers about their new wire info to United International Bank

directfiesta · 09-09-2010, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gumdrop

However, isn't Paramount Pictures involved?
Let's see...

Production Companies:
Paramount Pictures (presents)
Mallick Media (presents)
Oxymoron Entertainment
Middle Pictures

Between the five of them - 305+ films in the past ten years.

I am just throwing shit out there...who's funding who?
Paramount is a HUGH company...don't you think they would find the bucks?

Paramount, in fact Vantage ( which is their indie/artie division ) did a " pick-up " ( were paid by the film company ) so take them out of your great equation ... what is left ?

securedata · 09-09-2010, 10:17 PM

wtf so mallick runs this bank, loans himself our money ($20M) and his film makes $325k so we all lose $17M...sounds like a fair deal...i can see this guy getting hit

Konda · 09-09-2010, 10:18 PM

Quote:

from Larry Chavana <[email protected]>
to Larry Chavana <[email protected]>
date Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 6:30 AM
subject ePassporte's New Bank Account

Hello,

On Monday afternoon, we sent out a notice containing instructions for wiring funds to ePassporte's new bank account with United International Bank. Please be advised that the account number information provided on that form was incorrect. The correct account number for our account with United International Bank is....

I just realize how serious this email is.

This is basically an email from Oxymoron Entertainment to all ePassporte business accounts telling them to wire their funds to United International Bank, which is owned/managed by themselves....

This means that Oxymoron Entertainment probably used the ePassporte money for their Middle Men movie distribution...

securedata · 09-09-2010, 10:20 PM

Box Office
Budget:
$22,000,000 (estimated)
Opening Weekend:
$325,641 (USA) (8 August 2010) (252 Screens)
Gross:
$723,714 (USA) (22 August 2010)

epitome · 09-09-2010, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by securedata

wtf so mallick runs this bank, loans himself our money ($20M) and his film makes $325k so we all lose $17M...sounds like a fair deal...i can see this guy getting hit

And if he did do that ...

and the movie would have made $500 million, we wouldn't have seen a penny of it.

Shafted either way.

gumdrop · 09-09-2010, 10:23 PM

This is so James Bond Casino Royale....

epitome · 09-09-2010, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konda

I just realize how serious this email is.

This is basically an email from Oxymoron Entertainment to all ePassporte business accounts telling them to wire their funds to United International Bank, which is owned/managed by themselves....

This means that Oxymoron Entertainment probably used the ePassporte money for their Middle Men movie distribution...

Bingo!

It's actually all quite brilliant. Mallick is credited with thinking up some pretty crafty shit over the years so none of this would be beyond his ability to conceive.

The thing is, nobody banked on Middle Men bombing. You only make movies you think are going to sell.

Had Middle Men broke even or profited ... and it was funded by United International Bank, nobody would have been the wiser that they were lenders on Mallick movies.

That is, of course, if this is how things were done. At this point all we can do is speculate because nobody is giving us answers.

I imagine Mallick calling around the globe now trying to find investors for his little bank to make everything all right again.

xxweekxx · 09-09-2010, 10:29 PM

yeah some guy came on here a while back and said he is not gonna use epassporte cuz of middle men tanking, everyone laughed at him..

come to think of it.. where would the $18million have come from?? Chris's personal account??

You think he just opened up his account and signed a check for $millions for a movie?? lol

nah he'll get a loan for that shit... hmm maybe his own bank? lol. even billionaires dont use their personal money`

Barry-xlovecam · 09-09-2010, 10:29 PM

United Trust » Domiciliation services / office rental.

Fortis Bank is a real bank.

securedata · 09-09-2010, 10:30 PM

i imagine some people are looking for mallick now....how the fuck can you steal $20M...obviously the Netherlands Antilles are a big fucking sham, maybe sue the govt there for allowing this

gumdrop · 09-09-2010, 10:31 PM

I've heard something about the fact there is a followup to it that's a documentary...is that true?

epitome · 09-09-2010, 10:31 PM

Konda, props to you ... obviously things are not right at Epass and you may have dug up the link that finally connects all of the dots.

It will be interesting to see how all of this shakes out. Personally, I hope it works out because it will be 10x harder to conduct business without Epass. I'm about to go on a link buying spree and finding a way to get funds to people will be a nightmare.

I was confident things would work out until I saw that bogus follow-up statement that Epassporte issued today.

lagcam · 09-09-2010, 10:40 PM

Time for a brief pause for everybody to calm down and separate FACT (original post) from FICTION (most things subsequently posted).

We do not KNOW for a fact that epassporte account funds were used or that anything untoward has been done.

We do know that Chris Mallick must have amassed a nice personal fortune over the years.

You can dismiss the press release where it stated that our money was safe and that we would all be "satisfied" with the outcome if you want, but personally, I prefer a slim chance over a zero chance, and too much crazy wild speculation and accusation will not get us paid, but could stop or delay us getting paid as more and more official parties take an interest.

directfiesta · 09-09-2010, 10:46 PM

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Mallick сhοѕе tο finance ?Middle Men,? nοt bесаυѕе studios wουld deem іtѕ content taboo, rаthеr thаt Gallo аnd hіѕ team сουld hаνе a stronger rein creatively.

?I?m a serial entrepreneur аnd I don?t work well fοr public, rаthеr wіth public,? ѕауѕ Mallick, ?I always hаd thе intention οf mаkіng thіѕ movie without thе script being diluted bу committee decisions.?

Paramount bουght ?Middle Men? soon аftеr іt played аt thе Santa Barbara Film Festival.

Mallick launched hіѕ film finance firm Oxymoron Entertainment іn 2006. One οf thе first features hе served аѕ executive producer οn wаѕ Giancarlo Esposito?s drama ?Gospel Hill.? Upon returning frοm thе Cannes Film Festival, Gallo, Ribisi аnd Kevin Pollack hаd such a fаntаѕtіс time working fοr Mallick, thеу joined forces οn a second feature together, a mystery thriller, entitled ?Columbus Circle.? Amy Smart аnd Selma Blair co-star.

?Next tο Leonard Maltin, Chris knows more аbουt movies thаn аnу studio executive,? ѕауѕ Gallo, ?Hе produced ?Middle Men? frοm a filmgoers? perspective аnd thаt?s a breath οf fresh air.

?I don?t believe іn (movie going) research. Many public I hаνе worked wіth hаνе formulas (аbουt filmmaking) аnd іf thеу wеrе rіght, a movie wouldn?t mаkе money,? ѕауѕ Gallo, ?Thеrе?s always аn X Factor аbουt whу a movie іѕ fаntаѕtіс аnd succeeds.?

http://www.kifni41.co.cc/2010/08/%E2...-his-past.html

a lot of hot air in there ....

adult-help · 09-09-2010, 11:00 PM

Time for a brief pause for everybody to calm down and separate FACT (original post) from FICTION (most things subsequently posted).
---
epass is fueling this themselves because of those statements they issued which dont tell us anything..

Konda · 09-09-2010, 11:12 PM

Official Company registry info:

Epass:

http://www.curacao-chamber.an/info/r...legalformid=51

Trade name EPASSPORTE N.V.
Legal form Limited Liability Company
Official company name EPASSPORTE N.V.
Statutory seat Curaçao
Date of incorporation August 19, 2002

Title description Managing Director
Name Gregory Edward Elias

United International Bank N.V. (the bank where all Epass incoming wires were send to in the last 3 months)

http://www.curacao-chamber.an/info/r...legalformid=51

Trade name United International Bank N.V.
Legal form Limited Liability Company
Official company name United International Bank N.V.
Statutory seat Curaçao
Date of incorporation May 11, 2009

Title description Managing Director/Chairman
Name Gregory Edward Elias

k0nr4d · 09-09-2010, 11:36 PM

If only we were all smart enough to have checked this kind of stuff out BEFORE dumping money into their system. I'm sure we'll know for next time...

Konda · 09-09-2010, 11:39 PM

So besides Mallick at least 1 former and 2 current ePassporte staff members are also employed at at Oxymoron Entertainment.

xxweekxx · 09-09-2010, 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konda

So besides Mallick at least 1 former and 2 current ePassporte staff members are also employed at at Oxymoron Entertainment.

xmas13 · 09-09-2010, 11:52 PM

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm...

Alprazolam · 09-10-2010, 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by securedata

wtf so mallick runs this bank, loans himself our money ($20M) and his film makes $325k so we all lose $17M...sounds like a fair deal...i can see this guy getting hit

please tell me you are not a math teacher, or planning to be one when you fail at adult internet.

want to try again?

securedata · 09-10-2010, 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alprazolam

please tell me you are not a math teacher, or planning to be one when you fail at adult internet.

want to try again?

ok whatever its hard to add when you feel like stomping someones face into dust...

Alprazolam · 09-10-2010, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by securedata

ok whatever its hard to add when you feel like stomping someones face into dust...

understood. and accepted.

Vince Russo · 09-10-2010, 12:21 AM

Im having a difficult time comprehending this. What exactly does this all mean?

Mike Dutch · 09-10-2010, 12:34 AM

interesting read, would be nice to see this confirmed

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 09-10-2010, 12:36 AM

ADG

teomaxxx · 09-10-2010, 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxweekxx

yeah some guy came on here a while back and said he is not gonna use epassporte cuz of middle men tanking, everyone laughed at him..

I was thinking that this guy could be proven right, so I had intention to withdraw all money from epass. well, drinking like a fucking idiot for few days in the meantime, i didnt managed to do that and left there over 10k.

V_RocKs · 09-10-2010, 12:43 AM

If Chris stole your money he would be on a small island right now. Why stay and go to prison when you supposedly have millions at your disposal?

As for Paramount. They are only the distributor of the film. They didn't pay anything and, in fact, they received a payment to distribute the film. So the point of them not making a film they thought would flop isn't correct. They would love everyone to make films so they can rent out sets, cameras, designers, distribution, etc...

Jaeger · 09-10-2010, 12:46 AM

whoever controls the funds, they can only be winning from this because of the interest they will be gaining on our millions and millions combined....

lol_cat · 09-10-2010, 12:47 AM

It's quite easy to see how and why Mallick would use others money for a film. I mean shit, how risky is a movie? Very. Surely though he wasn't willing to risk a successful company on an indie film? Surely...

Who knows.

xmas13 · 09-10-2010, 12:49 AM

Randy West · 09-10-2010, 12:54 AM

Someone track down these douchebags. Too much money to just let go. This guy needs a beating.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 09-10-2010, 12:57 AM

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In the mid-1990s, SAM Group, a health financing company which Mallick founded, filed for bankruptcy. A related lawsuit revealed a checkered history of personal tax liens, judgements and lawsuits involving Mallick.

Next, he helped found PayCom, one of the earliest porn-billing systems and a pioneer in online-purchasing technology. Several years ago, the company clashed in court with MasterCard and lost in a case involving the billing of porn sites.

He launched ePassporte after splitting from PayCom. But his new company drew the attention of the U.S. attorney for Manhattan during a sweeping investigation of internet gambling.

After the company was advised of the probe, two years ago ePassporte ended business with poker sites. ?Although we do not believe we have done anything illegal, we do not wish to be associated with anything that might be considered illegal by the United States government,? ePassporte wrote to one off-shore operator of one site.

Finally, last year, the U.S. Tax Court ordered him to pay more than $280,000 in taxes, plus almost $40,000 in penalties, after concluding he under-reported income in 2005 by hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Now his ePassporte customers are anxious to learn the naked truth from the middle man about their cash.

ADG

securedata · 09-10-2010, 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy West

Someone track down these douchebags. Too much money to just let go. This guy needs a beating.

more than a beating....no offshore island is going to save him now

429mg · 09-10-2010, 01:02 AM

Interesting information.

I guess a lot of Dutch folks know who Gregory Elias is:

- current shirt sponsor for soccer club NEC Nijmegen
- the wealthiest man on Curacao
- suspected for tax fraud (Dutch webmasters: search for "De N.V. Patrick Kluivert" on Google for an article from De Volkskrant)

xmas13 · 09-10-2010, 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 429mg

Interesting information.

I guess a lot of Dutch folks know who Gregory Elias is:

- current shirt sponsor for soccer club NEC Nijmegen
- the wealthiest man on Curacao
- suspected for tax fraud (Dutch webmasters: search for "De N.V. Patrick Kluivert" on Google for an article from De Volkskrant)

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/04/bu.../04amster.html
http://www.expatica.com/nl/finance_b...nds_14039.html
http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?play=1&video=1114724581

Konda · 09-10-2010, 01:12 AM

Also, it is NOT Visa that shut down ePassporte.
It was the St Kitts bank, that asked Visa to suspend the cards due to deficiencies.

From Visa:

Quote:

“At the request of St. Kitts-Nevis-Anguilla National Bank (SKNA), on September 2, 2010, Visa blocked network access for prepaid cards issued by SKNA and operated by ePassporte.com to address certain program deficiencies.ha ePassporte.com is a third-party agent that works with SKNA.
“It is important to note that impacted SKNA prepaid cardholders are still able to access their funds through SKNA or SKNA’s agent, ePassporte.com.ha For more information cardholders should contact SKNA or ePassporte.com.
“Visa is committedhatohamaintaining the integrity of its global payment network and routinely conducts due diligence to ensure Visa prepaid programs adhere to the company’s stringent program requirements and controls.”

So according to Visa the prepaid cardholders are still able to access their funds through SKNA or SKNA’s agent, ePassporte.com.

So if anyone blocked it, it is ePassporte themselves.

09-09-2010, 09:32 PM	#1
Konda ... Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,280	Epassporte - Interesting Info - Your money is probably in Curaçao As most of you probably know, ePassporte is incorporated in Curaçao. People with business accounts know that wires TO ePassporte always went to Curaçao. First to Fortis bank, and lately to United Ibank. So their bank in Curaçao is where the majority of the funds are send to. https://www.epassporte.com/secure/do...structions.pdf ePassporte NV (Curaçao) just uses (used) the St.Kitts-Nevis-Aguila National Bank for the Virtual Visa and Visa Debit Cards. So this could mean that the money in your ePassporte Wallet is in the Curaçao bank, and the money in your ePassporte Virtual Visa is in St. Kitts. You can read on the back of your ePassporte Card "This card is issued by St.Kitts-Nevis-Aguila National Bank.... under co-branding agreement with between ePassporte NV...If found send to ePassporte NV... Curaçao, Netherlands Antilles) Now the interesting thing is that the bank in Curaçao that ePassporte uses (United Ibank) is owned/managed by the same people that own/manage ePassporte. The bank where all wire transfers to ePassporte go to is United International Bank N.V.: http://www.united-ibank.com/ (http://www.united-itrust.com/) This bank was founded in 2009... setup by exactly the same people that setup ePassporte So the millions of dollars that affiliate program owners combined wire to ePassporte each month go to: United International Bank N.V. Landhuis Joonchi 2 Kaya Richard J Beaujon Z/N Curacao, Netherlands Antilles Account name: ePassporte N.V. (Notice how this is the same address as on the back of your ePassporte card) So it seems that most money is in Curaçao, in an actual bank that is managed by the same people that manage ePassporte. So whatever problems there are with the St. Kitts bank, a lot of money should be in Curaçao. Management of United International Bank N.V.: http://www.united-itrust.com/en/our_management/ Gregory Elias Remember when ePassporte shut down all poker relationships a few years ago. The letter that ePassporte send out to the Poker sites was signed by Managing Directors Gregory Elias and United International Trust. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/gregory-elias/9/219/a31 Owner the United Trust Company N.V. The United Trust Company N.V. Landhuis Joonchi Kaya Richard J. Beaujon z/n P.O. Box 837, Willemstad Curaçao, Netherlands Antilles http://www.manta.com/coms2/dnbcompany_87ls43 Epassporte N V C/O: United International Trust N V Willemstad, Netherlands Antilles ePassporte, N.V. Gregory Elias Landhuis Joonchi Kaya Richard J. Beaujon z/n Curacao, AN

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09-09-2010, 09:49 PM	#5
epitome So Fucking Lame Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 12,158	So wait, if Chris Mallick owns a bank then he can make loans to himself. For something like ... oh, I don't know ... a movie. If said movie happens to bomb, then its the shareholders of that bank, which is Epass account holders, that is on the hook. This actually make sense ... the deficiency reported to Visa by St. Kitts may be that the bank Mallick owns was no longer able to fund transactions. Makes perfect sense to me. Too much sense, in fact.

09-09-2010, 09:55 PM	#7
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epitome So Fucking Lame Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 12,158	Adding to my previous thoughts, loaning money to a production company would be even easier if Chris Mallick's name is not officially attached to the bank. The thing he'd want to do in that instance is have someone close to him own and manage the bank thereby allowing himself to get sweetheart deals. Quite a few banks in the US hit problems when they were investing in projects of its managers and/or friends and family of managers.

09-09-2010, 10:01 PM	#9
gumdrop Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 482	However, isn't Paramount Pictures involved? Let's see... Production Companies: Paramount Pictures (presents) Mallick Media (presents) Oxymoron Entertainment Middle Pictures Between the five of them - 305+ films in the past ten years. I am just throwing shit out there...who's funding who? Paramount is a HUGH company...don't you think they would find the bucks? __________________ I am NOT Godaddy! Most excellent Domains & Cheap Hosting “Buy an iPad, kill a Chinaman” - Brendan O’Neill

09-09-2010, 10:17 PM	#15
securedata So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 206	wtf so mallick runs this bank, loans himself our money ($20M) and his film makes $325k so we all lose $17M...sounds like a fair deal...i can see this guy getting hit

09-09-2010, 10:20 PM	#17
securedata So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 206	Box Office Budget: $22,000,000 (estimated) Opening Weekend: $325,641 (USA) (8 August 2010) (252 Screens) Gross: $723,714 (USA) (22 August 2010)

09-09-2010, 10:23 PM	#19
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09-09-2010, 10:29 PM	#21
xxweekxx Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 6,780	yeah some guy came on here a while back and said he is not gonna use epassporte cuz of middle men tanking, everyone laughed at him.. come to think of it.. where would the $18million have come from?? Chris's personal account?? You think he just opened up his account and signed a check for $millions for a movie?? lol nah he'll get a loan for that shit... hmm maybe his own bank? lol. even billionaires dont use their personal money` __________________ _________________ I am the best

09-09-2010, 10:29 PM	#22
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09-09-2010, 10:30 PM	#23
securedata So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 206	i imagine some people are looking for mallick now....how the fuck can you steal $20M...obviously the Netherlands Antilles are a big fucking sham, maybe sue the govt there for allowing this

09-09-2010, 10:31 PM	#24
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09-09-2010, 10:40 PM	#26
lagcam Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,892	Time for a brief pause for everybody to calm down and separate FACT (original post) from FICTION (most things subsequently posted). We do not KNOW for a fact that epassporte account funds were used or that anything untoward has been done. We do know that Chris Mallick must have amassed a nice personal fortune over the years. You can dismiss the press release where it stated that our money was safe and that we would all be "satisfied" with the outcome if you want, but personally, I prefer a slim chance over a zero chance, and too much crazy wild speculation and accusation will not get us paid, but could stop or delay us getting paid as more and more official parties take an interest. __________________ Working Cam site for sale - NOT affiliate.

09-09-2010, 11:00 PM	#28
adult-help Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,450	Time for a brief pause for everybody to calm down and separate FACT (original post) from FICTION (most things subsequently posted). --- epass is fueling this themselves because of those statements they issued which dont tell us anything.. __________________ Adult web templates, Adult WordPress Themes, TGP, MGP.. also Complete Wordpress PaySite Development - Adult WordPress Blog Themes - Free FHG Templates - Free PaySite Script - Adult Tutorials Directory - Adult Domain Marketplace - Adult Jobs

09-09-2010, 11:12 PM	#29
Konda ... Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,280	Official Company registry info: Epass: http://www.curacao-chamber.an/info/r...legalformid=51 Trade name EPASSPORTE N.V. Legal form Limited Liability Company Official company name EPASSPORTE N.V. Statutory seat Curaçao Date of incorporation August 19, 2002 Title description Managing Director Name Gregory Edward Elias United International Bank N.V. (the bank where all Epass incoming wires were send to in the last 3 months) http://www.curacao-chamber.an/info/r...legalformid=51 Trade name United International Bank N.V. Legal form Limited Liability Company Official company name United International Bank N.V. Statutory seat Curaçao Date of incorporation May 11, 2009 Title description Managing Director/Chairman Name Gregory Edward Elias

09-09-2010, 11:36 PM	#30
k0nr4d Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Poland Posts: 9,228	If only we were all smart enough to have checked this kind of stuff out BEFORE dumping money into their system. I'm sure we'll know for next time... __________________ Mechanical Bunny Media Mechbunny Tube Script \| Mechbunny Webcam Aggregator Script \| Custom Web Development

09-09-2010, 11:39 PM	#31
Konda ... Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,280	So besides Mallick at least 1 former and 2 current ePassporte staff members are also employed at at Oxymoron Entertainment.

09-09-2010, 11:52 PM	#33
xmas13 Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: GFY Posts: 5,176	Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm...

09-10-2010, 12:21 AM	#37
Vince Russo So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 339	Im having a difficult time comprehending this. What exactly does this all mean?

09-10-2010, 12:34 AM	#38
Mike Dutch Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Amsterdam, The Netherlands Posts: 5,607	interesting read, would be nice to see this confirmed __________________ Advidi.com -- Your Dating, Diet and Skincare Partner with over 1000 offers --

09-10-2010, 12:36 AM	#39
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09-10-2010, 12:43 AM	#41
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,391	If Chris stole your money he would be on a small island right now. Why stay and go to prison when you supposedly have millions at your disposal? As for Paramount. They are only the distributor of the film. They didn't pay anything and, in fact, they received a payment to distribute the film. So the point of them not making a film they thought would flop isn't correct. They would love everyone to make films so they can rent out sets, cameras, designers, distribution, etc...

09-10-2010, 12:46 AM	#42
Jaeger Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Dark Side of Uranus Posts: 567	whoever controls the funds, they can only be winning from this because of the interest they will be gaining on our millions and millions combined.... __________________ been in this industry since 2002.. gettin' too old for this shit..

09-10-2010, 12:47 AM	#43
lol_cat Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 38	It's quite easy to see how and why Mallick would use others money for a film. I mean shit, how risky is a movie? Very. Surely though he wasn't willing to risk a successful company on an indie film? Surely... Who knows.

09-10-2010, 12:49 AM	#44
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09-10-2010, 12:54 AM	#45
Randy West So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,079	Someone track down these douchebags. Too much money to just let go. This guy needs a beating.

09-10-2010, 01:02 AM	#48
429mg Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Rotterdam Posts: 151	Interesting information. I guess a lot of Dutch folks know who Gregory Elias is: - current shirt sponsor for soccer club NEC Nijmegen - the wealthiest man on Curacao - suspected for tax fraud (Dutch webmasters: search for "De N.V. Patrick Kluivert" on Google for an article from De Volkskrant) __________________ Got a gay blog? Submit your posts to Male Sharing