OKPay is a better choice than payoneer.

[Si]

Who agrees with that statement?

They are adult friendly, master cards, and P2P payments.

Payoneer supports seems to suck, tried contacting them fuck knows how many times this past couple weeks and not a single reply from a member of support. I did get one email with a link to their help page which ironically wasn't HELPful at all.

I've signed up to OKPay and waiting for my account to be verified. And I like the look of it so far.

Reasons I prefer OKPay:

1. better interface
2. easier to do business with P2P payments
3. Different currencies
4. easy to get started, create an account and it's ready to use straight away.
5. fair fees

What are your views?

[Ethersync]

OKPay kicks ass. I am moving everyone I pay to this system.

Supporting multiple currencies is great and I love their wallet system. You can have one account for several different businesses by setting up a wallet for each one and when you send the money you can choose which Wallet it comes from and the recipient sees the payee and contact details for only that wallet. You can also receive wires from other companies to your account.

[NaughtyRob]

Sounds good, I am gonna sign up.

[zeuse]

What is OKPay's support like?

[TeenCat]

and how can this work if no sponsors are supporting it?

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by zeuse

What is OKPay's support like?

Better than ePassporte. Tickets answered within 24 hours and I can always hit them up on Skype if needed.

[2intense]

Originally Posted by NaughtyRob

Sounds good, I am gonna sign up.

same here

[Klen]

It doesn't work that way in adult industry,to make business in adult industry you need to have rep on board and go to shows.

[Si]

Originally Posted by TeenCat

and how can this work if no sponsors are supporting it?

Hopefully sponsors will realize how much easier this system is to use and will jump on board. Payoneer has no P2P payment system which to me is why ePass was so easy to use.

alert pay looks good for p2p but no ATM card.

payoneer has a card but no p2p.

OKPay has both!

[u-Bob]

does their mastercard work on the web?

[Klen]

Originally Posted by Si

Hopefully sponsors will realize how much easier this system is to use and will jump on board. Payoneer has no P2P payment system which to me is why ePass was so easy to use.

alert pay looks good for p2p but no ATM card.

payoneer has a card but no p2p.

OKPay has both!

Speaking about alertpay,that would come handy since i can wire from them.Still one wire is better solution then waiting for check/wire from each sponsor.

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by u-Bob

does their mastercard work on the web?

Yes, it does. It's a normal Mastercard Debit issued from an EU country (Cyprus).

[CyberHustler]

lmao @ all you lost sheep searching for a new crooked shepherd...

[Si]

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

It doesn't work that way in adult industry,to make business in adult industry you need to have rep on board and go to shows.

And payoneer has someone here? I think they did at one point, but i see no active member from payoneer. But people still use them.

So ePass has MO (who does an excellent job) but that was about it. He's the only one posting for ePass and these past 2 weeks he seems to be a bit out of the loop. So in theory you could say ePass doesn't have any board presence either.

Paypal certainly don't here yet people still use them. And I'm sure they don't go around all the forums on the web promoting themselves to affiliates etc.

Thats just my views anyway.

I just hope OKPay gets seen and noted by some sponsors

[zeuse]

Ok i clicked and signed up. Looks impressive but as it goes i don't promote one sponser that pays through them. I have already changed my main sponser to pay me through wire and i applied for a payoneer card through pussycash out of impulse. The way it's going I will have a wallet full of ice scrapers.

Come back epass', all is forgiven.

[a2000]

Better ? How many sponsors use it ? 5 % ? Less ?

[Klen]

Originally Posted by Si

And payoneer has someone here? I think they did at one point, but i see no active member from payoneer. But people still use them.

So ePass has MO (who does an excellent job) but that was about it. He's the only one posting for ePass and these past 2 weeks he seems to be a bit out of the loop. So in theory you could say ePass doesn't have any board presence either.

Paypal certainly don't here yet people still use them. And I'm sure they don't go around all the forums on the web promoting themselves to affiliates etc.

Thats just my views anyway.

I just hope OKPay gets seen and noted by some sponsors

Who was mentioning payoneer :D Well for me payooner will serve the purpose since i got instantly approved to get card plus they have a lot of mainstream sponsors.

[Steiger]

fuck OKpay. to me it looks like another scam...

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by zeuse

Ok i clicked and signed up. Looks impressive but as it goes i don't promote one sponser that pays through them. I have already changed my main sponser to pay me through wire and i applied for a payoneer card through pussycash out of impulse. The way it's going I will have a wallet full of ice scrapers.

Come back epass', all is forgiven.

If you wanted to you can receive your wires to your OKPay account. If you verify your account by mail they will raise your Mastercard limit to whatever you want (up to $1 million a day I think).

Originally Posted by Steiger

fuck OKpay. to me it looks like another scam...

Payoneer is based in Belize for non-US account holders. OKPAY uses UK companies and EU banks (e.g. Deutsche Bank AG and others).

[signupdamnit]

Originally Posted by Steiger

fuck OKpay. to me it looks like another scam...

Every one of your new OKPAY payees becomes your referral, which, if they continue to use their account (and also because they will probably invite new members to bring you additional, 2nd-level earnings), gives you an opportunity to earn up to €500 per referred user!

The OKPAY payment system is interested in cooperating with popular websites and Internet business projects. One thing is quite clear: the more you and your Internet business clients use OKPAY, the more money you earn! Do business with OKPAY!

It does seem a bit fishy. Bad vibes here but to each his or her own.

[Vjo]

Originally Posted by Si

Hopefully sponsors will realize how much easier this system is to use and will jump on board. Payoneer has no P2P payment system which to me is why ePass was so easy to use.

alert pay looks good for p2p but no ATM card.

payoneer has a card but no p2p.

OKPay has both!

I do believe anyone with a payoneer acct can send to anyone else with a pn acct. Right off the main page after logging in.

Just $7.50 a pop.

But they do (technically) have it, at least it appears.

For those outside the US it isnt so hot as sending funds for biz uses is expensive. rp2p (rich peer to peer) For those in the US and perhaps Canada it appears to be a good deal as we can use other methods to pay out for the most part and only need it for incoming to replace international wires.

[Quence]

OKpay is shady as fuck.

Stay away.

[Pics Traffic]

Originally Posted by Quence

OKpay is shady as fuck.

Stay away.

Second that. Another scam out of Russia I bet.

[Vjo]

Just typed in okpay.com .. hehe they are the first site EVER to hold me up unless I upgrade from IE7 .. I cant go forward unless I upgrade.

"This site is built on the advanced, modern technologies and does not support Internet Explorer version 6 and 7.

It is insistently recommended to you to choose and establish any of modern browsers. It is free of charge and also will take only some minutes."

LOL

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by Vjo

Just typed in okpay.com .. hehe they are the first site EVER to hold me up unless I upgrade from IE7 .. I cant go forward unless I upgrade.

"This site is built on the advanced, modern technologies and does not support Internet Explorer version 6 and 7.

It is insistently recommended to you to choose and establish any of modern browsers. It is free of charge and also will take only some minutes.
"

LOL

Works fine in Chrome...

[Caligari]

There is also the new system that sperbozo introduced a few days ago which looks promising but they still have some work to do on it-

I think a graph is going to have to be made to compare these companies as more come into the mix. Rushing to judgement on this issue is not a good idea.

[gumdrop]

OK, this is what someone else came up with on another board...correct it if it's wrong:
It would cost a u.s. resident $35 per $1000 atm withdrawl - 2% plus $15 per withdrawl - plus whatever the atm fees are plus 3% interest annually. that means someone who gets paid $50,000 a year through okpay would pay $3250 annually in fees including the 2% plus $15 per withdrawl and annual interest where it would have cost around $290 by epassporte.
https://www.okpay.com/en/company/new...ebit-card.html

2% atm fees on $50,000 is $1000
average of 1000 per withdrawl means 50 withdrawls total at $15 each is $750
that's $1,750 for withdrawl fees

3% interest of $50,000 is $1500

$1,750 withdrawl fees plus $1500 interest is $3,250.

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by Caligari

There is also the new system that sperbozo introduced a few days ago which looks promising but they still have some work to do on it-

I think a graph is going to have to be made to compare these companies as more come into the mix. Rushing to judgement on this issue is not a good idea.

Yeah, his system could be good. I am keeping an eye on it.

[lagcam]

Originally Posted by Si

I've signed up to OKPay and waiting for my account to be verified. And I like the look of it so far.

You haven't even been verified yet and you make a thread saying its better than Payoneer?

I don't know what is worse. People endorsing things without using them or people like Ethersync who set up the similarly sounding domain name www.okpays.com on the 14th September 2010 to "invisibly" referral link spam www.okpay.com that it redirects to.

If we learn anything from the epasspore shambles it should be that we should take more care WHO we trust our money to. Blind recommendations don't help anybody.

[Vick!]

Originally Posted by Si

Who agrees with that statement?

They are adult friendly, master cards, and P2P payments.

Payoneer supports seems to suck, tried contacting them fuck knows how many times this past couple weeks and not a single reply from a member of support. I did get one email with a link to their help page which ironically wasn't HELPful at all.

I've signed up to OKPay and waiting for my account to be verified. And I like the look of it so far.

Reasons I prefer OKPay:

1. better interface
2. easier to do business with P2P payments
3. Different currencies
4. easy to get started, create an account and it's ready to use straight away.
5. fair fees

What are your views?

Do they have max limit of $5000? ... It sucks, if they do.

How they are helpful to program owners? ..

[Vjo]

Originally Posted by Ethersync

Works fine in Chrome...

Thanks. Time to get IE 8 I guess.

Russians are always so advanced. Geez.

It is "insistently recommended" that I upgrade. So I better.

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by gumdrop

OK, this is what someone else came up with on another board...correct it if it's wrong:
It would cost a u.s. resident $35 per $1000 atm withdrawl - 2% plus $15 per withdrawl - plus whatever the atm fees are plus 3% interest annually. that means someone who gets paid $50,000 a year through okpay would pay $3250 annually in fees including the 2% plus $15 per withdrawl and annual interest where it would have cost around $290 by epassporte.
https://www.okpay.com/en/company/new...ebit-card.html

2% atm fees on $50,000 is $1000
average of 1000 per withdrawl means 50 withdrawls total at $15 each is $750
that's $1,750 for withdrawl fees

3% interest of $50,000 is $1500

$1,750 withdrawl fees plus $1500 interest is $3,250.

It's wrong.

Wire Loads: Free

P2P internal transfers are 0.5% of the transfer amount with a maximum fee of $2.99 (or ?2.99 if you transfer in Euros. OKPAY supports multiple currencies).

To wire yourself money out of your OKPAY account to your bank it costs 1%, min. $15 for USD wires and 1%, min. ?10 for EUR wires.

Exchanges between different currencies in your account (USD, EUR, GBP and CHF are supported) are at market rates. No fee.

Loading cash from your Wallet to your Debit card costs $8. It can be any amount up to $5,000 for accounts that are verified electronically (uploading docs). It can be any amount at all if you verify by mail.

ATM withdrawals are 2% of the amount you take. The maximum fee is $15.

I was told by their Support they are about to lower their fees.

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by Vick!

Do they have max limit of $5000? ... It sucks, if they do.

There is no account limit. There is a debit card limit, but if you verify your account by mail they will remove it entirely.

[lazycash]

Originally Posted by Ethersync

There is no account limit. There is a debit card limit, but if you verify your account by mail they will remove it entirely.

Pretty slick how you registered okpays and redirect your referral link via it.

[Vjo]

So after reading their speel on why IE 7 is so bad I click the IE update link.. it sends me thru atdmt.com

Host Manager: "Blocked: view.atdmt.com"

lol

So cagey.

[michael.kickass]

Now a lot of "OkPay" type companies are going to appear. The question is which one is not a scam?

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by lazycash

Pretty slick how you registered okpays and redirect your referral link via it.

If I did not like it and was not using it personally for both my own needs and all my payroll I would not be posting about it at all. Even if they did not have a referral system I would be making these same exact posts.

Originally Posted by Vjo

So after reading their speel on why IE 7 is so bad I click the IE update link.. it sends me thru atdmt.com

Host Manager: "Blocked: view.atdmt.com"

lol

So cagey.

Sounds like you have Spyware on your computer: http://forums.techguy.org/virus-othe...e-removal.html

[Vjo]

Originally Posted by Ethersync

If I did not like it and was not using it personally for both my own needs and all my payroll I would not be posting about it at all. Even if they did not have a referral system I would be making these same exact posts.



Sounds like you have Spyware on your computer: http://forums.techguy.org/virus-othe...e-removal.html

No Host Manager is a common prog that blocks thru host. I have atdmt.com blocked.

But ok, if they want to jack me around to make a cent or two before I enter based on my browser settings I understand. Times are tough all over.

Plus they use a mouseover to make it seem you are going (directly) to microsoft to update. hehe

But maybe they are just looking out for my own good. I will give them the benefit of the doubt.

This is your corner to pimp and certainly dont mean to crimp your style.

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by Vjo

No Host Manager is a common prog that blocks thru host. I have atdmt.com blocked.

But ok, if they want to jack me around to make a cent or two before I enter based on my browser settings I understand. Times are tough all over.

Plus they use a mouseover to make it seem you are going (directly) to microsoft to update. hehe

But maybe they are just looking out for my own good. I will give them the benefit of the doubt.

This is your corner to pimp and certainly dont mean to crimp your style.

I really think you have Spyware on your computer. You should run Malwarebytes (it's free).

I went to the page you are talking about the the IE link they use (copied from the page source) is: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/Int...r/default.aspx

[Vjo]

Originally Posted by Ethersync

I really think you have Spyware on your computer. You should run Malwarebytes (it's free).

I went to the page you are talking about the the IE link they use (copied from the page source) is: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/Int...r/default.aspx

Thanks. It doesnt matter, I dont have any sponsors overseas using okpay but if I did I would try them. Just about anything is worth the gamble over paying wire fees.

I've heard mostly good things about them on the whole.

If I have a hijacker then that was the first time I was hijacked.

It's cool. Sop for Russian sites. Every cent counts.

[Sid70]

Alertpay.

[Tempest]

Originally Posted by Vjo

Just typed in okpay.com .. hehe they are the first site EVER to hold me up unless I upgrade from IE7 .. I cant go forward unless I upgrade.

"This site is built on the advanced, modern technologies and does not support Internet Explorer version 6 and 7.

It is insistently recommended to you to choose and establish any of modern browsers. It is free of charge and also will take only some minutes."

LOL

Worked fine in Opera.. Got the same page you did with my IE. But the link to MS worked fine.

[Vjo]

Originally Posted by Tempest

Worked fine in Opera.. Got the same page you did with my IE. But the link to MS worked fine.

Thanks for the info. Only reason I noticed they send you thru atdmt first is my software stopped the progress. (via host file)

Pretty sure they send you thru atdmt to get the 1 cent (or whatever) and the whole line of "IE 7 wont work BS" is just that BS.

Not real impressive for a financial company to be jerking me thru atdmt to make money. If it was on the up and up then send me to Microsoft direct. Not thru a ppc outfit like atdmt.

Sop tho. No biggie if I needed to use them.

This is the link they show my mouse:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/Int...r/default.aspx

this is where we stop:
http://view.atdmt.com/action/winweb_...redir_winvista

I go no further as I'll just go to MS myself rather than give atdmt or this Russian site..

JACK SQUAT!

[icymelon]

anyone using these guys for a decent amount of time? And why would they not be in hear promoting their business given the circumstance there is a lot of business for them to grab.

[Vjo]

Btw, if you click that link I think atdmt will learn what browser you are using and the color of your shorts today so do so at your own info-giving risk.

[facialfreak]

Originally Posted by Adultmix

Alertpay.

QFFT!!

I took several days to compare all the epass alternatives and what they offered ... and even made pretty spreadsheets (yes it helps me to keep score ..), and AlertPay came out WAY ON TOP!!

Interestingly enough, OK Pay did not score to well for me ... as they sound a lot like a pyramid scheme ...

I have been accepting AlertPay for 10 days now, and I am very happy ..

If it were not for PayPal being so widely used, I would drop them and use AlertPay exclusively ...

AlertPay are based in Montreal, Canada ... anybody who moves great quantities of money will know that Canada's banking regulatory body, is one of the toughest in the world ... AlertPay meets these high standards, where I doubt many of the other options would. I like this much better than dealing with a small gambler-funded bank in the Caribbean or Cyprus ... There is very good reason why most of these outfits operate out of small countries, and not USA or CANADA ... easier to bend the laws ...

AlertPay was the fastest growing payment gateway in the world in 2009 according to Yahoo Finance.

[lazycash]

Originally Posted by Ethersync

If I did not like it and was not using it personally for both my own needs and all my payroll I would not be posting about it at all. Even if they did not have a referral system I would be making these same exact posts.



Sounds like you have Spyware on your computer: http://forums.techguy.org/virus-othe...e-removal.html

No problem with you referring them, but are you telling me you've been using them well before you registered okpays just 3 days ago?

[Agent 488]

nigerian/russian trash that ref code spammers and cookie stuffers are promoting fuck off.

no program will trust their money with that garbage so whatever.

[Agent 488]

alertpay is just as bad.

[Agent 488]

scam. stay away.