Ahmadinejad: "The Future Belongs to Iran"

[SallyRand]

"(CBS/AP) Updated at 11:36 p.m. ET

NEW YORK, Sept. 19, 2010

Ahmadinejad: "The Future Belongs to Iran"

Iranian President Says U.S. Gov't Must Recognize Iran as "Big Power", 2 Detained American Hikers Must Prove Innocence

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Sunday that "the future belongs to Iran," and challenged the United States to accept that his country has a major role in the world.

The comments came in an hourlong interview with The Associated Press on the first day of his visit to the United States to attend the annual general assembly of the United Nations this week.

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He insisted that his government does not want an atomic bomb - something he has said in the past - and that Iran is only seeking peace and a nuclear-free world. He gave no indication of when Iran would resume talks on its nuclear program and said any anti-nuclear sanctions against his government would have no effect on his government's policies.

Appearing calm and self-assured, the Iranian president said he was pleased about the release of American hiker Sarah Shourd from a prison in Tehran, but said her two companions still in prison would have to prove their innocence on charges that they illegally crossed into the country.

"Ahmadinejad's defiance of U.N. sanctions and his demands for a swap of Iranians in U.S. custody for the two young American hikers still in prison in Iran are his opening salvos," said CBS Foreign Affairs Analyst Pamela Falk. "He is laying claim to a war of words with the U.S. that may dominate the U.N. General Assembly events."



Sally sez:

Keep your heads down boys and girls, there is a nutcase on the loose!

Just sayin'.

Sally.

[V_RocKs]

If you thought Saddam was worthy of a good war, you are a moron... He was the test run to see what new weapons worked or not. The actual war will be brought to the world by this guy and his buddies.

Imagine what will happen when the Imams of the world tell their followers to start the killing spree. You might think that family next door to your house is fun loving just like your family is... Once the Imam speaks, they MUST kill you or suffer the same fate as you. It is plain and simple and it is all in their fucking bible. Just read the damn thing with a closed mind like they do.

[PornMD]

I still think NK would be a worse war than Iran would ever be. It seems like war with one of the two is imminent for sure.

[scottybuzz]

Originally Posted by SallyRand

Sally sez:

Keep your heads down boys and girls, there is a nutcase on the loose!

Just sayin'.

Sally.

just FYI he doesn't run the country. President of Iran is no the same of President of America.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

If you thought Saddam was worthy of a good war, you are a moron... He was the test run to see what new weapons worked or not. The actual war will be brought to the world by this guy and his buddies.

Imagine what will happen when the Imams of the world tell their followers to start the killing spree. You might think that family next door to your house is fun loving just like your family is... Once the Imam speaks, they MUST kill you or suffer the same fate as you. It is plain and simple and it is all in their fucking bible. Just read the damn thing with a closed mind like they do.

With Saddam in power there was a balance in the region. With him gone and a Western imposed Government the balance is gone.

Bush never thought what would happen if the Iraqis didn't welcome an invading Western army with welcoming arms and what Iran would do after Saddam was removed.

Now we inherit the shit storm.

[BlackCrayon]

I believe him. Iran is very progressive.

[Rochard]

Why do these small little countries think they have such a big stick?

We beat Iraq in all of what, three weeks? With some 1k KIA? During WW2 we fought harder for small islands. Iran would be a cakewalk. It's very easy to stand up and say "We will kick your ass" but it's another thing when tanks roll down your street.

[spazlabz]

I am not a blame the victims first kind of guy but exactly how stupid do you have to be an American and to go hiking near the Iranian border?

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by SallyRand

Sally sez:

Keep your heads down boys and girls, there is a nutcase on the loose!

Just sayin'.

Sally.

What did he say that is crazy?

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by scottybuzz

just FYI he doesn't run the country. President of Iran is no the same of President of America.

Correct. Ahmadinejad has no control over the military. Ali Khamenei, the Supreme Leader of Iran, controls that and, really, everything else of any importance.

[Carmen80]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Why do these small little countries think they have such a big stick?

We beat Iraq in all of what, three weeks? With some 1k KIA? During WW2 we fought harder for small islands. Iran would be a cakewalk. It's very easy to stand up and say "We will kick your ass" but it's another thing when tanks roll down your street.

I'm sure you want that too. American power-crazy retards.

[CaptainHowdy]

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[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Why do these small little countries think they have such a big stick?

We beat Iraq in all of what, three weeks? With some 1k KIA? During WW2 we fought harder for small islands. Iran would be a cakewalk. It's very easy to stand up and say "We will kick your ass" but it's another thing when tanks roll down your street.

Iraq still isn't settled. Anyone who thinks it is, is a fool.

Sorry Richard but it's true. History will show me to be right.

[_Richard_]

amazing how many 'hikers' are in this country

[moeloubani]

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

If you thought Saddam was worthy of a good war, you are a moron... He was the test run to see what new weapons worked or not. The actual war will be brought to the world by this guy and his buddies.

Imagine what will happen when the Imams of the world tell their followers to start the killing spree. You might think that family next door to your house is fun loving just like your family is... Once the Imam speaks, they MUST kill you or suffer the same fate as you. It is plain and simple and it is all in their fucking bible. Just read the damn thing with a closed mind like they do.

Did you grow up and become a racist or did your slave-owning granddaddy teach you?

[The Demon]

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

If you thought Saddam was worthy of a good war, you are a moron... He was the test run to see what new weapons worked or not. The actual war will be brought to the world by this guy and his buddies.

Imagine what will happen when the Imams of the world tell their followers to start the killing spree. You might think that family next door to your house is fun loving just like your family is... Once the Imam speaks, they MUST kill you or suffer the same fate as you. It is plain and simple and it is all in their fucking bible. Just read the damn thing with a closed mind like they do.

If it was as "plain and simple" as you say, then the majority of Muslims would be committing these atrocious crimes and having their own "Crusades". Since the radicals are the minority, there's nothing plain and simple about it. The radicals just take the meaning literally and suit it to their own needs. I don't think Islam is a peaceful religion at all compared to the other monotheistic religions, but I sure as hell know that the majority of Muslims are normal people.

[Quagmire]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Why do these small little countries think they have such a big stick?

We beat Iraq in all of what, three weeks? With some 1k KIA? During WW2 we fought harder for small islands. Iran would be a cakewalk. It's very easy to stand up and say "We will kick your ass" but it's another thing when tanks roll down your street.

because those 'small countries' are all grouped in the same region and can cause one fuck of a mess so far as the delivery of natural gas, oil, etc etc.

And to say you 'beat' Iraq in three weeks is nothing short of laughable. You walked away after 7 years and left a mess. A beating requires fighting to end.

Here are some pretty pictures to explain.


Beaten


Fucking shit up on a large scale

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by Carmen80

I'm sure you want that too. American power-crazy retards.

Aren't you in England?
Do you know how many American soldiers are buried in your country?

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by Quagmire

And to say you 'beat' Iraq in three weeks is nothing short of laughable. You walked away after 7 years and left a mess. A beating requires fighting to end.

Not to disagree with your point, but we never left Iraq...

[fatfoo]

It's hard to say what will happen. I can also say people need to be more informed.

[The Demon]

Nothing beats the stupidity of liberals and self hating Americans.

[Agent 488]

he is crazy because he stands up to the west/israel.

[pornmasta]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

amazing how many 'hikers' are in this country

yes lol 8 char

[PR_Glen]

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

If you thought Saddam was worthy of a good war, you are a moron... He was the test run to see what new weapons worked or not. The actual war will be brought to the world by this guy and his buddies.

Imagine what will happen when the Imams of the world tell their followers to start the killing spree. You might think that family next door to your house is fun loving just like your family is... Once the Imam speaks, they MUST kill you or suffer the same fate as you. It is plain and simple and it is all in their fucking bible. Just read the damn thing with a closed mind like they do.

contrary to popular belief not all muslims take every word of the quran literally... just like 99.9% of the rest of the religious population..


the day i fear my neighbour is the day before i move...

[sperbonzo]

Originally Posted by The Demon

If it was as "plain and simple" as you say, then the majority of Muslims would be committing these atrocious crimes and having their own "Crusades". Since the radicals are the minority, there's nothing plain and simple about it. The radicals just take the meaning literally and suit it to their own needs. I don't think Islam is a peaceful religion at all compared to the other monotheistic religions, but I sure as hell know that the majority of Muslims are normal people.

Taking as what you are saying as prima facia true... I continually wonder why, when the extremists are constantly "hijacking" the name of Islam for their extremist views, why aren't there Imams standing up to denounce and distance themselves from the Jihadists? It's obvious that the whole world, (not just the US) connects the extremist jihad types to Islam, so why aren't the leaders of the moderate majority of Muslims on TV, telling the world that the extremists are wrong and evil, and doing their best to help turn them in to the authorities?




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[cwd]

Originally Posted by The Demon

Nothing beats the stupidity of liberals and self hating Americans.

I don't know...there is some great stupidity going on with tea partiers and right wingers too.

[Agent 488]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Taking as what you are saying as prima facia true... I continually wonder why, when the extremists are constantly "hijacking" the name of Islam for their extremist views, why aren't there Imams standing up to denounce and distance themselves from the Jihadists? It's obvious that the whole world, (not just the US) connects the extremist jihad types to Islam, so why aren't the leaders of the moderate majority of Muslims on TV, telling the world that the extremists are wrong and evil, and doing their best to help turn them in to the authorities?




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when is the last time you denounced a jewish stone age extremist?

right. stfu.

[spazlabz]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Taking as what you are saying as prima facia true... I continually wonder why, when the extremists are constantly "hijacking" the name of Islam for their extremist views, why aren't there Imams standing up to denounce and distance themselves from the Jihadists? It's obvious that the whole world, (not just the US) connects the extremist jihad types to Islam, so why aren't the leaders of the moderate majority of Muslims on TV, telling the world that the extremists are wrong and evil, and doing their best to help turn them in to the authorities?.

Taking as what you are saying as prima facia true... I continually wonder why, when the extremists are constantly "hijacking" the name of Christianity for their extremist views, why aren't there Pasters & Priests standing up to denounce and distance themselves from the far right wing? It's obvious that the whole world, (not just the US) connects the extremist conservatives types to Christianity, so why aren't the leaders of the moderate majority of Republicans and Christian leaders on TV, telling the world that the extremists are wrong and evil, and doing their best to help turn them in to the authorities?

[Quagmire]

Originally Posted by Ethersync

Not to disagree with your point, but we never left Iraq...

Yeah, I know they didn't physically leave (they never will), they just delared an end to the combat mission. That is what I was referring to by walking away.

[spazlabz]

Originally Posted by spazlabz

Taking as what you are saying as prima facia true... I continually wonder why, when the extremists are constantly "hijacking" the name of Christianity for their extremist views, why aren't there Pasters & Priests standing up to denounce and distance themselves from the far right wing? It's obvious that the whole world, (not just the US) connects the extremist conservatives types to Christianity, so why aren't the leaders of the moderate majority of Republicans and Christian leaders on TV, telling the world that the extremists are wrong and evil, and doing their best to help turn them in to the authorities?

I did that to point out that what you said could easily be applied to any extreme religious group anywhere in the world. I could do the same thing with the Jewish faith but in all honesty, I do not know enough about the JDL to really get into a discussion about that

[sperbonzo]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

when is the last time you denounced a jewish stone age extremist?

right. stfu.

Since you obviously don't know me, you wouldn't know, would you? It also shows that you have no answer to my post, since this is the best you could come up with.... your answer does not address what I said on any level.

And no one is going to put me on TV to listen to my opinions about those Chabad wackos...

However if I was some kind of recognized leader, and I wanted to talk about extremist Chabad Jews and how screwed up they are, and that they don't represent the vast majority of Jews, then I would call some of the news channels and set it up. I'm pretty sure that I could get the air time, no problem.....

...and so could an Imam who wanted to condemn extremist jihadists .





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[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Taking as what you are saying as prima facia true... I continually wonder why, when the extremists are constantly "hijacking" the name of Islam for their extremist views, why aren't there Imams standing up to denounce and distance themselves from the Jihadists? It's obvious that the whole world, (not just the US) connects the extremist jihad types to Islam, so why aren't the leaders of the moderate majority of Muslims on TV, telling the world that the extremists are wrong and evil, and doing their best to help turn them in to the authorities?

You do realize that immediately after 9/11 Iran was hugely helpful to us with the intelligence they provided about Al Qaeda/Afghanistan/Iraq. There was a more moderate and very pro-west government in office then too. 1,000,000+ Iranians had a candlelight vigil in the streets in Iran IN SUPPORT OF THE US after 9/11. Then Bush did an about-face and labeled them part of the Axis of Evil and the rest is history...

[sperbonzo]

Originally Posted by spazlabz

Taking as what you are saying as prima facia true... I continually wonder why, when the extremists are constantly "hijacking" the name of Christianity for their extremist views, why aren't there Pasters & Priests standing up to denounce and distance themselves from the far right wing? It's obvious that the whole world, (not just the US) connects the extremist conservatives types to Christianity, so why aren't the leaders of the moderate majority of Republicans and Christian leaders on TV, telling the world that the extremists are wrong and evil, and doing their best to help turn them in to the authorities?

When someone bombs an abortion clinic, or kills an abortion doctor, in the name of Christianity, there are MANY Christian preachers that go on national television denouncing their actions are wrong and not representative of Christianity.



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[The Demon]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Taking as what you are saying as prima facia true... I continually wonder why, when the extremists are constantly "hijacking" the name of Islam for their extremist views, why aren't there Imams standing up to denounce and distance themselves from the Jihadists? It's obvious that the whole world, (not just the US) connects the extremist jihad types to Islam, so why aren't the leaders of the moderate majority of Muslims on TV, telling the world that the extremists are wrong and evil, and doing their best to help turn them in to the authorities?




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Weird, I don't recall Christians standing up against the Crusaders, condemning their evil acts, and living very long, do you?

Also, there have been many Muslims that have stood up for against the extremists, they just got killed rather quickly. In today's technological age, the Muslim extremists have a lot easier time getting to their targets than the Crusaders of 900 years ago.

And you're going to find the least amount of extremists in Judaism than any other religion.

[spazlabz]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

When someone bombs an abortion clinic, or kills an abortion doctor, in the name of Christianity, there are MANY Christian preachers that go on national television denouncing their actions are wrong and not representative of Christianity.



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Tiller...

[sperbonzo]

Originally Posted by Ethersync

You do realize that immediately after 9/11 Iran was hugely helpful to us with the intelligence they provided about Al Qaeda/Afghanistan/Iraq. There was a more moderate and very pro-west government in office then too. 1,000,000+ Iranians had a candlelight vigil in the streets in Iran IN SUPPORT OF THE US after 9/11. Then Bush did an about-face and labeled them part of the Axis of Evil and the rest is history...

So then you are saying that because of what Bush said, Muslims are no longer a religion of peace, but rather they now support jihad?


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[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Why do these small little countries think they have such a big stick?

We beat Iraq in all of what, three weeks? With some 1k KIA? During WW2 we fought harder for small islands. Iran would be a cakewalk. It's very easy to stand up and say "We will kick your ass" but it's another thing when tanks roll down your street.

A cakewalk, right.

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

So then you are saying that because of what Bush said, Muslims are no longer a religion of peace, but rather they now support jihad?

Is that the best response you can think up? An amateur debate tactic at best.

What I am saying is Iran wanted to strengthen ties with the West and was very sympathetic towards us after 9/11. For whatever reason Bush did not reciprocate this.

...and since when does Iran support a jihad against the West? Seems to be we are the ones banging on the war drums. The only Jihad related quote I can find from Ali Khamenei is below.

The Leader highlighted the importance of scientific progress in society and likened the acquisition of knowledge to jihad. "In Islamic culture, jihad means making efforts to negotiate obstacles... and now the country is truly in need of academic jihad" he opined. He stated that universities are the engine of progress in the country.

Terrifying...

[sperbonzo]

Originally Posted by Ethersync

Is that the best response you can think up? An amateur debate tactic at best.

What I am saying is Iran wanted to strengthen ties with the West and was very sympathetic towards us after 9/11. For whatever reason Bush did not reciprocate this.

...and since when does Iran support a jihad against the West? Seems to be we are the ones banging on the war drums. The only Jihad related quote I can find from Ali Khamenei is below.



Terrifying...

My post was talking about Muslims worldwide, not Iran. Also, please note in my post that I DID NOT talk about Muslim leaders supporting the extremists, I talked about them not denouncing the extremists. Please re-read....

And since you brought up the changes in Iran's policies as being pertinent to my post, then I had to address your answer in that context.


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[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

My post was talking about Muslims worldwide, not Iran. Also, please note in my post that I DID NOT talk about Muslim leaders supporting the extremists, I talked about them not denouncing them. Please re-read....

And since you brought up the changes in Iran's policies as being pertinent to my post, then I had to address your answer in that context.


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Maybe you are in the wrong thread? This one is called, "Ahmadinejad: "The Future Belongs to Iran".

[sperbonzo]

Originally Posted by Ethersync

Maybe you are in the wrong thread? This one is called, "Ahmadinejad: "The Future Belongs to Iran".

Apologies, I'm know that it's very VERY rare here on GFY for people to speak on topics that are only very loosely related to a thread in progress. Threads typically stick to original topic pretty exactly from beginning to end around here.



My bad





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[Dirty Dane]

I hope not. He's bad.

[ottopottomouse]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Why do these small little countries think they have such a big stick?

Because they know that being attacked is unlikely.

[The Demon]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Apologies, I'm know that it's very VERY rare here on GFY for people to speak on topics that are only very loosely related to a thread in progress. Threads typically stick to original topic pretty exactly from beginning to end around here.



My bad





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IF it makes you feel better, I know what you're talking about and how it's actually relevant to this discussion.