TNACash Aron does not pay - GoFuckYourself.com

jscott · 09-24-2010, 08:55 PM

I've been emailing and icqing Aron from TNACash for about 9 months now, about paying my account on TNACash Nats

At first he says he'll look into it, and make sure I'm paid (which he always used to actually do after only 3-5months late, but now 9 months is enough)

Aron, keep my money

I will make sure everyone knows that if they push your sites that you will not pay

Even today I gave you 1 last chance on icq to reply to me, and you didn't take that opportunity
I even offered to let you buy out my account, you didn't reply

Mark down TNA CASH into your blacklists guys

Domain Broker · 09-24-2010, 09:01 PM

white listed.

rhizome · 09-24-2010, 09:03 PM

Owes me money too.

jscott · 09-24-2010, 09:19 PM

Yea, he doesn't reply email or icq

Last reply I have from him is from August 3rd:

Aron-tnacash8/3/2010 4:53 AM
I forgot what I found out, let me recheck it tonight!

James · 09-24-2010, 09:28 PM

Ouch.

/popcorn time

Jaeger · 09-24-2010, 09:36 PM

that sucks jscott you seem to encounter lots of programmes that don't pay

glad you tell the rest of us

jscott · 09-24-2010, 09:55 PM

Thanks for appreciating Darth, I always will speak up hoping to help you and all affiliates to protect our traffic from programs that aren't even responsible enough to pay

Deej · 09-24-2010, 10:07 PM

I wonder what both sides have to say as you both are veterans with respect...

LeRoy · 09-24-2010, 10:15 PM

Use their CCbill links.

jscott · 09-24-2010, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeRoy

Use their CCbill links.

But I still get rebills and webmaster ref's from TNA cash NATS for LONG time

That money is what I'm talking about, most of my links are already changed to ccbill

heymatty · 09-25-2010, 09:40 AM

Bump for JScott

Klen · 09-25-2010, 10:23 AM

I have 27$ on NATS there.Is this new trend where programs with nats and ccbill not paying on nats part but paying only on ccbill?

signupdamnit · 09-25-2010, 01:19 PM

Nats and other Nats programs (As well as MPA3, etc) should be getting on the programs doing the late or no payment thing as it's destroying the reputation of all such programs. It's driving affiliates to ccbill. No one should have to beg for their money. Not one week. One month. Or many months. It should be automatically paid ON TIME. No excuses, no bullshit. You were sent the sales so shut up and pay the affiliate their cut.

bolsex · 09-25-2010, 02:38 PM

another one!

Davy · 09-25-2010, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Domain Broker

white listed.

I think you mean blacklisted?

SteveHardeman · 09-25-2010, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit

Nats and other Nats programs (As well as MPA3, etc) should be getting on the programs doing the late or no payment thing as it's destroying the reputation of all such programs. It's driving affiliates to ccbill. No one should have to beg for their money. Not one week. One month. Or many months. It should be automatically paid ON TIME. No excuses, no bullshit. You were sent the sales so shut up and pay the affiliate their cut.

I don't think it's a "NATS programs" thing. I think it's a "NATS programs offering high PPS" thing. I know nothing about TNACash. Were they paying out a significantly higher payout versus a signup?

It appears the OP was not using PPS links but if the program was offering PPS links to others, they may be having issues paying out on those and therefore it's trickling up to the revshare affils as well.

Or the opposite of all that. I really have no idea. Just speculation.

rhizome · 09-25-2010, 04:16 PM

Yup, you really have no idea but nice try.

A bunch of NATS programs owe me money, all of them revshare programs.

signupdamnit · 09-25-2010, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveHardeman

I don't think it's a "NATS programs" thing. I think it's a "NATS programs offering high PPS" thing. I know nothing about TNACash. Were they paying out a significantly higher payout versus a signup?

It appears the OP was not using PPS links but if the program was offering PPS links to others, they may be having issues paying out on those and therefore it's trickling up to the revshare affils as well.

Or the opposite of all that. I really have no idea. Just speculation.

I was a little hesitant about labeling it a NATS thing. It's not, really. That's why I made sure to include Mpa3. I should have been more precise and said "those who handle their own payouts". I agree about revshare generally being more stable than PPS. Of course if the sponsor has no integrity that might not help much in the end though.

It's almost to the point that sponsors handling their own payouts should be bonded a month's worth of affiliate payouts in case of disputes. Of course I have no fantasies of that ever happening

but we're to the point where it would be a great selling point. Hell if I were TMM (as an example since they run NATS which is the biggest) I might even consider making it a requirement for programs using the software going forward just to keep a positive image with affiliates in the face of all the scandals.

SteveHardeman · 09-25-2010, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhizome

Yup, you really have no idea but nice try.

A bunch of NATS programs owe me money, all of them revshare programs.

Nothing is absolute. I was simply theorizing based on my own experience. My theory is that more "programs that offer a PPS option" are late or not paying than "programs that don't have a PPS option." And I stand by it. Geezus, do I even have to call that a theory. It's a theory like gravity is a theory.

....remainder edited cuz it's a Saturday night and I don't feel like arguing.

18teens · 09-25-2010, 06:28 PM

Fuck, not another one.

fatfoo · 09-25-2010, 06:32 PM

TNACash does not pay? That sucks.

SBJ · 09-25-2010, 10:16 PM

that sucks jscott!

jscott · 09-26-2010, 12:01 AM

The main thing made me post this thread is I seen GotGauge (Aron) posting a few days ago

He has time to post replies on gfy, but no time to pay his affiliates

So Aron tell us, what "glitch" happend?

cherrylula · 09-26-2010, 03:15 AM

great, another program bites the dust.

jscott · 09-26-2010, 03:26 AM

But this is old news guys, He's always paid 1 month, or 3 months, or 6 months late

Now going on 1 year late, there is nothing he can do now to redeem himself, paying 9 months late is the same as not paying at all for me

Write it off and spread the word

AdPatron · 09-26-2010, 03:27 AM

Another reason to stop promoting affiliate programs.

gooddomains · 09-26-2010, 06:21 AM

affiliate pograms are dead

PGR · 09-26-2010, 08:15 AM

He is aslo involved with Radical Cash

cykoe6 · 09-26-2010, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaeger

that sucks jscott you seem to encounter lots of programmes that don't pay

glad you tell the rest of us

Whats up buddy? Anyway I thought TNA Cash closed and stopped paying along time ago....... but thanks for keeping us up to date jscott.

SBJ · 09-26-2010, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoesTraffic

Another reason to stop promoting affiliate programs.

nah just time to promote more ccbill and rev share programs rather than high risk high PPS programs

BUMP

Agent 488 · 09-26-2010, 03:07 PM

so my $31.91 is gone? bummer.

lazerbunny · 09-26-2010, 03:22 PM

why not promote sites that use ccbill and pay on time?

BlueDude · 09-26-2010, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazerbunny

why not promote sites that use ccbill and pay on time?

+1, I recommend that.

signupdamnit · 09-26-2010, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gooddomains

affiliate pograms are dead

It's looking like the bad ones who play games will be, yes. Affiliates themselves seem to be doing fine as long as they stay off sinking ships.

jenmarie · 09-26-2010, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SBJ

nah just time to promote more ccbill and rev share programs rather than high risk high PPS programs

BUMP

You got that right!

TheSenator · 09-26-2010, 09:40 PM

Is that the old TeenKelly site...

That shit is on autopilot.

RycEric · 09-26-2010, 10:16 PM

We're with Jscott here. Stiffed once by TNA.. then I made the bad decision of allowing them to sign up radical and same shit.

Deej · 09-26-2010, 10:19 PM

Well this isnt looking good. I always thought TNA Cash had their shit together...

jscott · 09-27-2010, 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator

Is that the old TeenKelly site...

That shit is on autopilot.

Yep that's the one

But he also has TeenDeja, that was the most recent TNA Cash site, she's still active in the scene, and GotGauge aka Aron posts here on GFY recently

I asked him if he is willing to buy out my affiliate account, 1 final payment and he can keep all my future rebills/webmaster refs (TeenDolls John did this for me, pay out balance plus a little extra)

At least we could just settle this shitty stupid situation once and for all

....but of course, Aron does not reply to icq/email

Sly · 09-27-2010, 05:24 AM

I find this mildly amusing... not because of your loss, jscott... but because he was recently here posting about the government and how it wastes so much money and it needs to stop spending. Ironic.

Funny, I know another scamming program owner that had the same issues with the government.

Agent 488 · 09-27-2010, 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SBJ

nah just time to promote more ccbill and rev share programs rather than high risk high PPS programs

BUMP

tna cash was rev share. some people just like the better tracking of nats as well as a few other reasons.

jscott · 10-02-2010, 02:27 AM

GotGauge
Last Activity: Today 05:34 AM
http://www.gfy.com/members/gotgauge/

jscott · 10-23-2010, 06:49 PM

bump bump, to remind you Aron, i know you've seen this thread, this is reminder how much of a dickhead you are

have a great day jj....... oops, i mean, Aron

jscott · 01-20-2011, 06:48 PM

Added Aron and TNA Cash to:
http://www.jscottcash.com/blacklist.php
and
http://www.gfy.com/it/780091-scammer-list-add.html (scammer list)

Aron, yo bro, whazzup man, lets get together for some bro dinner sometime lol

18teens · 01-20-2011, 07:37 PM

He still hasn't paid?

jscott · 01-20-2011, 08:22 PM

No paid
No replied

Even he has brand new threads he posts on GFY and I post in those, he replies to everyone, but ignores posts LOL

That is the voice of a true scammer

pristine · 01-20-2011, 08:27 PM

shit listed.

Agent 488 · 01-20-2011, 08:32 PM

link pulled.

papill0n · 01-20-2011, 08:37 PM

his nick on here is gotgauge ?

jscott · 01-20-2011, 08:39 PM

yes, gotgauge, he just recently posted a thread about some new model he's shooting

09-24-2010, 08:55 PM	#1
jscott So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Taipei Posts: 25,198	TNACash Aron does not pay I've been emailing and icqing Aron from TNACash for about 9 months now, about paying my account on TNACash Nats At first he says he'll look into it, and make sure I'm paid (which he always used to actually do after only 3-5months late, but now 9 months is enough) Aron, keep my money I will make sure everyone knows that if they push your sites that you will not pay Even today I gave you 1 last chance on icq to reply to me, and you didn't take that opportunity I even offered to let you buy out my account, you didn't reply Mark down TNA CASH into your blacklists guys

09-24-2010, 09:28 PM	#5
James Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Western Canada Posts: 89	Ouch. /popcorn time __________________ BellaPass

09-24-2010, 09:36 PM	#6
Jaeger Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Dark Side of Uranus Posts: 567	that sucks jscott you seem to encounter lots of programmes that don't pay glad you tell the rest of us __________________ been in this industry since 2002.. gettin' too old for this shit..

09-24-2010, 10:07 PM	#8
Deej I make pixels work Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: I live here... Posts: 24,386	I wonder what both sides have to say as you both are veterans with respect... __________________ Deej's Designs n' What Not Hit me up for Design, CSS & Photo Retouching Icq#30096880

09-24-2010, 10:15 PM	#9
LeRoy Porn Pusher Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: It's a dry heat Posts: 13,287	Use their CCbill links. __________________ JAPANESE CAMS AND CONTENT SITES Skype - leroy.rowland2

09-24-2010, 09:01 PM	#2
Domain Broker So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,427	white listed.

09-24-2010, 09:03 PM	#3
rhizome Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 788	Owes me money too.

09-24-2010, 09:19 PM	#4
jscott So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Taipei Posts: 25,198	Yea, he doesn't reply email or icq Last reply I have from him is from August 3rd: Aron-tnacash8/3/2010 4:53 AM I forgot what I found out, let me recheck it tonight!

09-24-2010, 09:55 PM	#7
jscott So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Taipei Posts: 25,198	Thanks for appreciating Darth, I always will speak up hoping to help you and all affiliates to protect our traffic from programs that aren't even responsible enough to pay

09-25-2010, 09:40 AM	#11
heymatty Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Scottsdale :) Posts: 2,188	Bump for JScott __________________ Cashlantis ~ Black Book Cash

09-25-2010, 10:23 AM	#12
Klen Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Vienna Posts: 32,234	I have 27$ on NATS there.Is this new trend where programs with nats and ccbill not paying on nats part but paying only on ccbill?

09-25-2010, 01:19 PM	#13
signupdamnit Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,697	Nats and other Nats programs (As well as MPA3, etc) should be getting on the programs doing the late or no payment thing as it's destroying the reputation of all such programs. It's driving affiliates to ccbill. No one should have to beg for their money. Not one week. One month. Or many months. It should be automatically paid ON TIME. No excuses, no bullshit. You were sent the sales so shut up and pay the affiliate their cut.

09-25-2010, 02:38 PM	#14
bolsex Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 717	another one!

09-25-2010, 04:16 PM	#17
rhizome Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 788	Yup, you really have no idea but nice try. A bunch of NATS programs owe me money, all of them revshare programs.

09-25-2010, 06:28 PM	#20
18teens Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,605	Fuck, not another one.

09-25-2010, 06:32 PM	#21
fatfoo ICQ:649699063 Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 27,763	TNACash does not pay? That sucks. __________________ Send me an email: [email protected]

09-25-2010, 10:16 PM	#22
SBJ So Fucking Fabulous Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 11,369	that sucks jscott! __________________ Chaturbate - Make tons of money from Cams! *Name Silo - Domains under $9 and free ID protect*

09-26-2010, 12:01 AM	#23
jscott So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Taipei Posts: 25,198	The main thing made me post this thread is I seen GotGauge (Aron) posting a few days ago He has time to post replies on gfy, but no time to pay his affiliates So Aron tell us, what "glitch" happend?

09-26-2010, 03:15 AM	#24
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	great, another program bites the dust.

09-26-2010, 03:26 AM	#25
jscott So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Taipei Posts: 25,198	But this is old news guys, He's always paid 1 month, or 3 months, or 6 months late Now going on 1 year late, there is nothing he can do now to redeem himself, paying 9 months late is the same as not paying at all for me Write it off and spread the word

09-26-2010, 03:27 AM	#26
AdPatron No commissions, no fees. Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: USA Posts: 17,706	Another reason to stop promoting affiliate programs.

09-26-2010, 06:21 AM	#27
gooddomains Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 10,128	affiliate pograms are dead

09-26-2010, 08:15 AM	#28
PGR Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Ontario Posts: 1,753	He is aslo involved with Radical Cash

09-26-2010, 03:07 PM	#31
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	so my $31.91 is gone? bummer.

09-26-2010, 03:22 PM	#32
lazerbunny Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Thrilladelphia Posts: 442	why not promote sites that use ccbill and pay on time? __________________ Awesome Show, Great Job! icq- 414 975 541 LazerBunny.com - Indie AltPorn bunnybuxxx.com - The Alternative Affiliate Program TrafficHolder.com - Buy/Sell Adult Traffic

09-26-2010, 09:40 PM	#36
TheSenator Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 13,323	Is that the old TeenKelly site... That shit is on autopilot. __________________ ISeekGirls.com since 2005

09-26-2010, 10:16 PM	#37
RycEric Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,313	We're with Jscott here. Stiffed once by TNA.. then I made the bad decision of allowing them to sign up radical and same shit.

09-26-2010, 10:19 PM	#38
Deej I make pixels work Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: I live here... Posts: 24,386	Well this isnt looking good. I always thought TNA Cash had their shit together... __________________ Deej's Designs n' What Not Hit me up for Design, CSS & Photo Retouching Icq#30096880

09-27-2010, 05:24 AM	#40
Sly Let's do some business! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 31,244	I find this mildly amusing... not because of your loss, jscott... but because he was recently here posting about the government and how it wastes so much money and it needs to stop spending. Ironic. Funny, I know another scamming program owner that had the same issues with the government.

10-02-2010, 02:27 AM	#42
jscott So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Taipei Posts: 25,198	GotGauge Last Activity: Today 05:34 AM http://www.gfy.com/members/gotgauge/

10-23-2010, 06:49 PM	#43
jscott So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Taipei Posts: 25,198	bump bump, to remind you Aron, i know you've seen this thread, this is reminder how much of a dickhead you are have a great day jj....... oops, i mean, Aron

01-20-2011, 06:48 PM	#44
jscott So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Taipei Posts: 25,198	Added Aron and TNA Cash to: http://www.jscottcash.com/blacklist.php and http://www.gfy.com/it/780091-scammer-list-add.html (scammer list) Aron, yo bro, whazzup man, lets get together for some bro dinner sometime lol

01-20-2011, 07:37 PM	#45
18teens Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,605	He still hasn't paid?

01-20-2011, 08:22 PM	#46
jscott So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Taipei Posts: 25,198	No paid No replied Even he has brand new threads he posts on GFY and I post in those, he replies to everyone, but ignores posts LOL That is the voice of a true scammer

01-20-2011, 08:27 PM	#47
pristine So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 1,176	shit listed.