I Apologize For The Shit Music That Is Forced Down The Throat Of You Young People

[garce]

Mr. Rory Gallagher:



Its a shame that music today is defined by ersatz attitude and fashion. In the old days you could succeed by being talented. Being pretty and pretentious was irrelevant.

Back when this "video" was shot, it was all about a man - alone on stage - singing and playing guitar. Music has nothing to do with it anymore.

Rock guitar is dead. Long live Rory Gallagher.

[garce]

As a matter of fact, I haven't seen one post here that's involved a lone musician playing their instrument and singing into a mic. Discounting those old Stephanie Goat-face, pre-Lady Gaga videos. Music is no longer music.

Rock guitar is dead. Rock and Roll is dead. Enjoy listening to people trying to sell you something 24/7.

Here's my buddy George. Only thing he's trying to sell you is a shot of Jack Daniels and, well, nothing.



Rock and roll IS dead. Long live George.

[Nicky]

No way It's dead. You can never convince me! Long live guitar rock!

[Socks]

I was just thinking the other day while doing dishes about how few musicians of today will be making music when they're old. Then again you could say the same thing about many groups in the 60's and 70's too, who were put together to sell an image in much the same way as today. Those band members might not have picked up an instrument in decades today. And then again, many of the "musicians" of today don't play traditional instruments at all.

It's still art though, even if you don't like it. A walrus wacking a casio keyboard is both music an art too.

[Nicky]

Ride on!

[NaughtyVisions]

Bullet For My Valentine:


Avenged Sevenfold:


Five Finger Death Punch:


While I respect the guitar legends you have posted, I disagree with your comments regarding rock guitar being dead. Granted, I'm leaning more toward metal guitar, but all of the bands I posted above are pure metal music. No gimmicks, no selling. Just pure energy and emotion put into their music, and some killer riffs and solos to boot.

And as far as the above bands being part of the nu or modern metal trend, as someone who grew up listening to early Slayer, Cannibal Corpse, Deicide, Mercyful Fate/King Diamond, etc., I welcome these bands, who's music holds it own with those, but who offer more than screeching and/or growling vocals. (Don't get me wrong, I still love me some Cradle of Filth and Six Feet Under ).

Rock and Metal guitar is NOT dead. You just need to know where to find it.

[Socks]

[Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Lady gaga all the way. Best music ever.

[jackknoff]

I dunno why, but it reminded my of Joe Cocker, please see https://youtube.com/watch?v=eEb8DflQ9lY
Jack

[Nicky]

Rock that shit out!

[Socks]

[Nicky]

Top this! :-D

[NaughtyVisions]

Originally Posted by Nicky

Top this! :-D

Zakk Wylde shreds like a motherfucker.

[Nicky]

Originally Posted by NaughtyVisions

Zakk Wylde shreds like a motherfucker.

He's my god, aside from James.

[garce]

Originally Posted by Socks

I played in Jeff's bar many a time. He was a good man, and a great believer in rock and roll. I miss him dearly.

I originally met Stevie Ray at the Elmo. 27 years ago. Rock guitar owned the world in those days. Now the music world is dominated by pussies in GAP clothes. Doesn't matter anymore what shit spews out of their gaping, cocksucking mouths. It has nothing to do with music anymore, and has everything to do with selling whatever useless shit they sign their name to.

The memory of rock and roll still lingers, but there is not one single person - maybe Jack White (but that's pushing it) - who will stand on stage with a guitar strapped on his back and dominate the airwaves.

That's over. Its done with. Rock guitar is dead. Rock and roll is dead. Today, Stevie Ray Vaughn would not be worth the time of day. Brian Setzer.. who? Even Jeff Beck, Ron Wood, and Jimmy Page mean nothing now - and there is no-one in line to replace them.

I'm gonna leave the last word to the Reverend Billy G. Jesus done left Chicago, and he's bound for New Orleans. But New Orleans died with Katirina, and Katrina took what was left of rock and jazz with it.

[Nicky]

Time to just feel what music can do.

[Agent 488]

there is tons of great music out there. open your mind.

[Rochard]

was thinking about this earlier today really. We all seem to believe that music was the best "back when we were kids" and everything else is shit. The truth is today's youth looks at your "solo singer playing guitar" and they'll say "how the fuck do you find this entertaining?".

My favorite music is the 1980s stuff - But in my case, I must confess it was horrible. However, I tend to listen to all kinds of stuff. I recently discovered "surf music" from the 1960s and also "swing" music from the 1940s. Oddly enough, I'm also into what I'll call "old fashion Cuban Mambo". With the resources we have these days, you can be into all kinds of shit.

[NaughtyVisions]

Originally Posted by garce

Rock guitar owned the world in those days. Now the music world is dominated by pussies in GAP clothes. Doesn't matter anymore what shit spews out of their gaping, cocksucking mouths. It has nothing to do with music anymore, and has everything to do with selling whatever useless shit they sign their name to.

Only if you use top 40 radio and media as your basis of today's music world. I understand that there's far more out there in the music world than the Gagas, Kanyes, Britneys, Ke$has and whatever else is being pushed out in mass.

Originally Posted by garce

The memory of rock and roll still lingers, but there is not one single person - maybe Jack White (but that's pushing it) - who will stand on stage with a guitar strapped on his back and dominate the airwaves.

There's memories of what rock and roll used to be, and there's what rock and roll has evolved into today. It has changed, but that doesn't mean it's dead or dying. Rock and roll was never meant to be mainstream. It was about rebellion; going against the social norm. The moment it becomes mainstream, it loses its core values.

And you keep falling back on the scenario of a single man standing on stage with his guitar...why does it have to be a single man carrying on rock and roll?

Originally Posted by garce

That's over. Its done with. Rock guitar is dead. Rock and roll is dead. Today, Stevie Ray Vaughn would not be worth the time of day. Brian Setzer.. who? Even Jeff Beck, Ron Wood, and Jimmy Page mean nothing now - and there is no-one in line to replace them.

I disagree. All of those artists find homes in today's society, and in the youth of today, for those who "get it." No, it's not mainstream appeal, but as I said earlier, it was never meant to be that way. And those artists are passed on through the artists of today, who cite them as influences. I personally discovered many classic artists by them being cited as influences to modern bands I enjoy. And for those who "get it," the influences can be found in surprising places. Take for example Hollywood Undead, a band I'm sure makes you cringe, Garce. I highly doubt you have any appreciation for rap/rock, and I can't say I blame you. But even they draw influence (and show it) from the classics:



I know it's old news to many, but check out the rhythm of the above song. Sound familiar? It should. It's Randy Rhoads' guitar riff intro to Ozzy's "Crazy Train." And HU proudly cites Ozzy and Rhoads as influences on the song (and give writing credit to them, too.)

Additionally, many of the classics still tour, and still put out music. Parents can pass the love of these artists down to their children, and continue the influence on the future. While not guitar legends per se, I have twice attended concerts of The Moody Blues with my father, and the second one I took my son with us. So three generations at one concert. And I saw it everywhere at the concert...not just us. Hardly signifies the death of the genre.

[2MuchMark]

Rock isn't dead, you just have to look a little harder to find it. When you do, you will be rewarded. Check out Check out Octane, Liquid Metal or XL on xm / sirius radio and your faith in real guitar rock and metal will be restored.

[Vjo]

Here are 4 orig (mostly pop/soft rock) songs I feel can hold their own with the classic pop/soft rock stuff of yesteryear.









All are good original songs and melodies.

I am a classic late 60s - late 80s pop/rock guy but I like some stuff today a LOT. It's just not as abundent in my tastes as the 70s and 80s but still the talent lives on for sure.

[Vjo]

One thing's for sure. The fidelity and mixing is just fantastic now days.

You can get the old stuff remastered or even off the master to a CD but the old days recordings (altho very good) can not come close to the sound spectrum and fidelity being put out by some of the recordings last couple years.

[frank7799]

"I Apologize For The Shit Music That Is Forced Down The Throat Of You Young People"

That´s pretty much what my grandma told my father. Fortunately my mother thought that every generation has their own style of music and it´s not better or worse, just different. She was a Beatles fan.

I tried to adapt that and I hope all parents will. Try not to be a Babbitt. (I looked up "Babbitt" on dict.cc and I hope it describes what I mean, kind of a stuffy old man)

[bns666]

Originally Posted by garce

Mr. Rory Gallagher:



Its a shame that music today is defined by ersatz attitude and fashion. In the old days you could succeed by being talented. Being pretty and pretentious was irrelevant.

Back when this "video" was shot, it was all about a man - alone on stage - singing and playing guitar. Music has nothing to do with it anymore.

Rock guitar is dead. Long live Rory Gallagher.

i feel like the guy in the song right now

[jerryb]

I totally agree. I am a long time musician, trumpet, bass, keyboards, etc. I am 73 and played in Big Bands in the 50's & 60's. Also played bass in 50's & 60's rock and roll. Do mostly self enjoyment music now but do go to Detroit/Chicago once in a while to do trumpet background work for upcoming vocalists.

I played lead trumpet in the Tommy Dorsey band for a while. Played 2nd trumpet, the hot seat, for Buddy Rich for a while. The hot seat is the jazz break soloist from sweet stuff to screaming screeching high note stuff. Know many many of the great trumpet players from Dizzy Gillespie, Charlie Shavers, Ziggy Elman (Goodmans 'Sing, Sing, Sing), and lots of others.

I almost lost total interest in music in the 70's. I couldn't stand the 30 guitar strings strumming where you couldn't tell if someone is hitting a wrong chord, etc. And, the vocalist with the mike crammed down his throat SCREAMING words you could not understand. It was horrible to see that move in. YES, I know music is generational, but there is nothing like hearing and understanding the vocalists words, being able to hum the melodic line from an instrumental and/or vocalists voice. And, the terrible accoustics, and digital distortion was just terrible.

Plus, the greatest oxymoron words are --- 'rap music'. What an absolute horror. No melodic line, no chord structure ... just drums and a monotonous non-inovative bass line. WOW, what a nightmare.

Where is the Ella's, Carpenters, Mama's & Papa's, Patty Page's, Keely Smiths, Pete Fountain's, Miles Davis's, and all the other super good vocalists and instumentalists. Maybe someday that type of music will come back. I hope so, but as I said before music is generational.

I'm not putting people down that love Ozzy, Clapton, etc. It's just that I personally, having been involved in music for generations, believe music in the last 30-40 years has been in the dumpster ... music is so enjoyable when you can hum the tune, listen to some intricate EbMinor, Bbmajor, Abmajor with a flat 5th chords in a 17 piece band behind a singer like Helen O'Connell, Sarah Vaughn, etc. What a feast for the ears.

Sorry to drag on with this. I'm now 73 and sometimes ramble on.

Peace to all.

[cykoe6]

Originally Posted by garce

Katrina took what was left of rock and jazz with it.

I agree that rock is dead (and has been for a long time) but jazz lives on.

[cykoe6]

Originally Posted by garce

Back when this "video" was shot, it was all about a man - alone on stage - singing and playing guitar. Music has nothing to do with it anymore.

Try this.

[CaptainHowdy]