My Epassporte story...

[V_RocKs]

This is simply a rant. I don't need your money or even your pitty. However, if you have a similar story I would love to hear it.

I received only half of the payments I normally get via ePassporte around the 1th - 5th in September since things went to shit. So I took a week thinking things might change. Then I changed all of my payouts to checks. Dozens of them. I haven't received an affiliate payment for an entire month now except for CCBILL (Obvious why) and Nasty Dollars (ACH). I guess most sponsors have a policy of waiting a payout period before resuming payouts with a new method and the ePassporte ones were put on hold. So I should start receiving payments again (and most will be doubles) today or sometime this week.

I just wanted to express my frustration over this situation. While I didn't need to put my life on hold and was able to get everything paid, I know there are hundreds, if not thousands, of others that live paycheck to paycheck and I guess someone even committed suicide over it.

Up until now Chris Mallick was always a standup kind of guy. He is trying to keep this out of the press and keep it out of his personal life and yet he has effected countless others in so many ways. It pisses me off! How many people in other nations looked up to this American based (don't kid yourself... it was a USA company for all intensive purposes) and I wonder how many now wonder what in the fuck is up with America right now?

Anyway... rant is over. Carry on.

[Loch]

I believe it is/was a Canadian company no?

[bDok]

The effect is insane. Unless a company like paypal comes as an option I most likely will just always get checks or wires. I used my epassporte very conservitively as I just never had a good feeling about it. Just sucks now spending time going through a bunch of programs changing options.

I can only imagine what people that are bigger webmasters that used that as pretty much their primary way of getting money are shouting now. Just is a complete shitty situation. No other way to slice that rancid piece of meat.

[Machete_]

Adapt or die.

[fuzebox]

Originally Posted by Loch

I believe it is/was a Canadian company no?

Not at all...

[crockett]

I'm just glad I got out of adult when I did and went mainstream. A large part of my payments were via Epass and that would have sucked to get hosed as it appears many have.

[PXN]

If he fuck you up just return the favor, go on Oxymorn Entertainment facebook page and tell people not to do biz with him. Take him out on the public forum. He's trying to live a normal life when so many people lives have been screw up.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Los-An...t/169233480057

[V_RocKs]

Originally Posted by crockett

I'm just glad I got out of adult when I did and went mainstream. A large part of my payments were via Epass and that would have sucked to get hosed as it appears many have.

How is mainstream treating you?

[V_RocKs]

Originally Posted by PXN

If he fuck you up just return the favor, go on Oxymorn Entertainment facebook page and tell people not to do biz with him. Take him out on the public forum. He's trying to live a normal life when so many people lives have been screw up.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Los-An...t/169233480057

Better do it now because if he claims bankruptcy this would actually be illegal to do it after.

[kane]

I had a similar experience. I changed things over to check and am now starting to get them. that is good. The down side I do some freelance work for webmasters who are mostly outside the USA. They have always paid me via epass. Obviously that is no longer an option so after a couple of weeks of waiting they decided to send me a check. It takes 5-10 working days for the check to get here, then my bank holds it another 5-10 working days. So I have started getting the checks, but now get to wait for them to clear the bank.

I would really love to know what went on that caused all this chaos. I had enough money to pay the bills, but all this has made for a lot of inconvenience.

[Agent 488]

Originally Posted by crockett

I'm just glad I got out of adult when I did and went mainstream. A large part of my payments were via Epass and that would have sucked to get hosed as it appears many have.

you admitted you got a day job. i know it's what most people call "mainstream." whoop de doo.

[wizzart]

In last 30 days I get only 2 payout ($650, where fees takes me $100 + AdSense check on $200) ,but like say Machete "adapt or die"

I also must admin, if ePass didn't exist 6 years I will never start working as adult webmaster.

[V_RocKs]

Yeah... that is true. ePassporte has definitely fixed more headaches then it has created... But this fucking sucks... RIGHT NOW!... whhhaaaahhahahaha

[Oracle Porn]

what the fuck is up with America now? lol... "America" has been in the shitter for a few years now, and don't kid yourself, it's not getting any better.

[sponsornetworks]

i lost all money in my epass vcc

[HomerSimpson]

too bad epass is gone... it really simplified the way of getting the money and making small payments (for hosting, designs, copy writing and other services or goods). Now we see some other solutions are trying to take epass place, but so far none is adopted as "industry standard" ...

[HomerSimpson]

Originally Posted by sponsornetworks

i lost all money in my epass vcc

take a look at this thread
http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/990825-sknanb-st-kitts-info-wtf.html
maybe you can access your funds as of tomorrow

[Tjeezers]

I had my last payments in begin august, i have the bar a little higher since this year. I toke out the cash after i paid my partner, costs for servers and a few coders. I was on the 16th at the ATM taking the last cash out to add this to the house hold cost, paid my wife her graduation costs, she is finally promoted to Doctor. And I was using most of the left over cash to maintain the renovation here at my farm.

On 30 August some payments came from other sponsors, and due to circumstances i was not able to drive to the ATM, is a roughly 60-80 miles from here. Depends on the sandy back roads that sometimes give me a short cut, but it was raining heavy, so i could not leave. Also my wife is HIGH pregnant, Cant leave her alone without me worrying about her well being.

Anyway, on 1 September, i was low on funds, and I was calculating it all, and came to the conclusion that next payment date would be not to early and not to late. I could handle it.

Then I wake up on 2 september reading GFY and see that shit hits the fan.

Knowing all my good sponsors are paying on epass, it was a matter of stopping them all, and install a new form of payment.

The stress hits in on that day when you change account info and realize that this is really the end. I never had 100% hope on better times. The better half in me knew we where fucked in the ass without foreplay.

Then the part came that i had to tell my wife we had a temporary issue with receiving payments, and she freaked out complete. Her being pregnant, i was blaming myself for being so straight up honest.

I told her all would be fine, and that thanks to knowing all my sponsors very good, and having the pleasure of seeing them on the past shows and engaging with them in good business, I told her not to worry, and that everything would work out to all parties benefits.

I knew on that moment I was trying to calm her down, cause she is very stress sensitive in her own way. And with 8 months pregnancy on the clock, i handled her like I would handle a block of Dynamite.

We decided to lower our spending, and participate on a month of no income, racking up the bills and trying to keep smiling for the outside world. We informed no one of our family and we did not wanted to give anyone the idea we had issues.

After a couple of weeks we understood that Epass was affecting more and more people, and this kind of gave us strength, and the energy to not victimize ourselves to much. Part of business is also learning to deal with bad news and stress movements.

On 5 sept i requested a payoneer card, to make sure my online bills could be paid as soon it came, my bank card is invalid next month, so I did not wanted to make more jumps then needed and waited for Payoneer. This was also stress, the location of my farm is very hard to find and to reach. after 21 days, or 22, the mail man was on his bike delivering me the card i needed so bad.

Then on 23 Sep, i confirmed all sponsors to pay me on payoneer. And kuddos to AFF for setting me up so fast, had some small issues with merging all the accounts there, but they emailed payoneer and had replay the next day how to fix it. I wanted to have it done before the new pay periods where a fact.

Then AWE, but that was a little more difficult, changes of payment where done the week after the ticket, and this caused that i would receive my first payments from them on 10 November, according the ticket i got back from them.

In all those times of waiting, reading bad news, feeling frustrated and very nervous, i kind of lost a lot of sleep. Lost a few pounds, this was pretty cool actually, and I learned to deal with more stress then ever had before.

I never flipped out, i made no fights with my wife about money stress, and I was even happier in the past month then I would have expected to be. I think i pass my own test, and came out fine. My wife made me a compliment that I kept my word.

Now it is 6 October, I am waiting on my first payment from Cams.com and then slowly the other sponsors. A few sponsors did not offered alternatives to epass, i tried to ask them why, they said they had no time for it. I could not agree more, knowing they had also funds stuck on epass. So they can wire me.

All in all, this was a black month September. I did not liked it on the other end, but it showed me also how problems can fuck up your system and that you need to anticipate on it. Even with other card services, things can go wrong.

A warned person counts for 2 was a saying in Holland, and I life by it.

My sympathy goes out to all the people who are still in this stress situation, i have no answers for them 123, but I can only hope they are strong and creative enough to survive this, and that they come back stronger.
I am not saying this cause I am in the safe zone, no, far from that. I also lost a few pennies, and I dont expect miracles. I just hope that everyone gets what they worked for, their cash. As someone said her last month " It is not some epass Christmas bonus, it is your salary for your work!! " ...

I hope soon that GFY is done with her epass threads, and those reputation threads, and that life can continue like normal, whatever normal means here. But ya get my point!


Good luck to all of you, and thanks for reading my Epass Story

Regards,

TJ

[SomeCreep]

Epassporte has fucked a lot of people. It's nothing new though. Ibill and WebmasterChecks also fucked over a lot of people. I learned long ago that the best thing to do is diversify as much as possible.

[wizzart]

I was think ePass is bank, and it's in USA, and there is have law so shit like this can't happen...

[PornMD]

In a month when I've sold 80+ domains for a healthy $xx,xxx profit, $0 of that has been adult domains. I have literally not sold an adult domain in a month. If I didn't enjoy posting here, I would have stopped coming here weeks ago...pretty much all thanks to Epass failing. Thanks douchefags.

[boneless]

we set most to wire, alltho a few are switched to payoneer to see how it performs.

we had to ask several sponsors to make early payment for us as we needed to get stuff paid, some sponsors worked with us and other didnt (thats life)

we are atm in survival mode still but we expect to come out stronger.

[V_RocKs]

Damn, TJ. Crazy shit. I wish you and your wife well.

Considering mainstream more and more each day here...

Now I have a Payoneer, OK Pay and Paxum account/card. Kind of gay. I liked having everything all in one.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

you admitted you got a day job. i know it's what most people call "mainstream." whoop de doo.

I did and I work three 12 hour days a week leaving me 4 days to do what ever. Adult has been going to shit for awhile and I was burnt out with it, so I quit and got a job. TBH, I needed to get out of the house, and be around people so it was a good thing.

I've since sold off, or closed anything adult I still had, aside from some domains and scripts. I've moved into selling my own product, that I use a 3rd party to produce and it's going pretty well at this point.

So go troll somewhere else.

[fuzebox]

Man I really feel for the people hurt by Epassporte... 4-6 years ago that was me, 90% of my income came through epass, it wasn't until about 3 years ago where I had a decent bank account in costa rica and could start accepting wire transfers...

If this happened 4 years ago I'd be fucked. It's frightening.

[The Porn Nerd]

This is another sad day for the Adult Biz. Sympathies to anyone caught up in this epass mess.