Blogs on sub domains?

[Jakez]

I want to buy a generic domain like "xxxpornblog.com" or something and setup a bunch of niche sub domains on it.

However, is this a waste of time versus buying a TLD for each blog? Or can the sub domains suffice in pulling SE traffic?

Probably a stupid question for most but I don't and have never done any blogging.

[kane]

I'm actually going to be doing the same so I'm not 100% sure how well it will work. That said, there are plenty of free hosts out there that have a similar layout and you can get search engine traffic to those sites so I would guess it would work, but probably not as well as getting an individual domain for each blog

[Jdoughs]

It's a completely feasible way of generating some more traffic. Even with a plain jane WP install set to multi-user and using default twenty-ten theme you can spit out blogs nice and fast.

Example of a bunch of simple installs (10-15 minute blogs) using WP3.0 and the default twenty ten theme. Although these are unique text and look pretty good, these I would consider just quick sites, feeders or splogs.

http://scarlettpain.fetishpink.com/
http://kylieworthy.fetishpink.com/
http://debidiamond.fetishpink.com/

I built about 30-40 of them as a test and most show up on first page for their long tail blog titles, like Scarlett Pain Porn Blog etc without any links or further development, pointing a few links to them will be easy as pie to start taking some more substantial terms with them.

Point of note, that is a fairly old, and un-abused domain I've used. And what I will do is update pornstar blogs on that domain as I add posts to my other sites, if I add a Scarlett Pain blowjob post on a site, I'll log in over there quick and also update the (gallery) and quickly do a re-write on the text to post it again. This makes updating the pornstar site into a no-brainer as I'm using my normal updates (not hunting content) and just using it in more places then one (but with fresh text).

[kane]

Originally Posted by Jdoughs

It's a completely feasible way of generating some more traffic. Even with a plain jane WP install set to multi-user and using default twenty-ten theme you can spit out blogs nice and fast.

Example of a bunch of simple installs (10-15 minute blogs) using WP3.0 and the default twenty ten theme. Although these are unique text and look pretty good, these I would consider just quick sites, feeders or splogs.

http://scarlettpain.fetishpink.com/
http://kylieworthy.fetishpink.com/
http://debidiamond.fetishpink.com/

I built about 30-40 of them as a test and most show up on first page for their long tail blog titles, like Scarlett Pain Porn Blog etc without any links or further development, pointing a few links to them will be easy as pie to start taking some more substantial terms with them.

Point of note, that is a fairly old, and un-abused domain I've used. And what I will do is update pornstar blogs on that domain as I add posts to my other sites, if I add a Scarlett Pain blowjob post on a site, I'll log in over there quick and also update the (gallery) and quickly do a re-write on the text to post it again. This makes updating the pornstar site into a no-brainer as I'm using my normal updates (not hunting content) and just using it in more places then one (but with fresh text).

Those are some good looking sites.

Two questions if you don't mind. 1. Have you played around much with wordpress MU and if so how did it work for you? 2. Do you make your galleries on those blogs by hand or do you use a plugin?

Thanks.

[NinjaSteve]

The best way to see if it's a possibility in generating SE traffic, you might search for certain terms you want to hit the top spots on and see how many subdomains are listed in the results.

[Jdoughs]

Those are really just plain/simple blogs, I went for speed and not really to high of quality. There is 1-2 plugins installed only (akismet for spam, All In One Seo for baseline seo, but I dont even have that activated on most of the ones I did there).

What makes the galleries is UUGallery (ref spam) which I swear by and use on anything I'll spend much time on that is Wordpress.

Took about an hour maybe to set a theme up to function across every girl's name, I picked one with changeable header/color/layout (which happened to be the wp default theme) and actually hardcoded the links to other girls right into the sidebar so I only update it once and it adds the rest of the girls.

I spent maybe 2 nights building those 30ish and had all the text already done in txt files, installed UUGallery and built a template that fit the theme nice, and started banging off sites.

Using the multiuser you can add any theme, but I wanted to streamline per niche, so all the pornstar blogs will be on that theme, I'll do niches probably to, and keep the related niched sites together. They are a different approach, they are all linked to each other via the theme itself so as the niche list (pornstar list) grows so will the links to it on each.

[Supz]

I am working on a multi-site setup right now. Just started adding content. I believe it won't get that much juice compared to a regular domain from the start. But once you have enough pages, subdomains, pageviews, so on so forth. Should do pretty well

[baddog]

sub-domains add depth

[Antonio]

I have tried just about any variation and twist with Wordpress MU and blogs - it works just as is it supposed to and you will get SE love. I have had only one site, which was completely ignored by Google, but it was loaded with autoblogs only (on each subdomain)...

[campimp]

go with wordpress MU and its a piece of cake

[marketsmart]

Originally Posted by baddog

sub-domains add depth

some will argue that sub domains hold no more value than domain/keyword..

i attended word camp about a month ago and opinions were all over the map..

some people will tell you that google wants to see fastest path to content and that from an seo standpoint, its better to limit categories and use the domain/keyword type scenario..

of course everyone has their own opinions when it comes to seo which is why its so important to split test and form your own conclusions..




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[Jakez]

Pretty much everyone is focused on using Wordpress, but I don't like the bulkiness and will be creating my own custom solution to use across all the sub domains. I feel like Google favors Wordpress though and might be wasting my time?

[Davy]

I believe Google can recognize wordpress installations. Could be a blessing or a curse...

[Nikitos]

Some really nice info here. Thanks. Cause i am about to try this with one of my domains as well.

[CunningStunt]

The only way to really know, with anything SEO related or otherwise, is to do it yourself. Most of what people tell you here are half truths. Test it for yourself. Set up multiple domains, one with just one topic, one with all the subdomains. Check your stats often.

I'd say if you don't overdo it, they will hold nearly as much weight as a separate domain, especially if you can get a shit ton of links in to the main domain

I've always gone with separate domains though, it's just my gut feeling that they will get a better nudge up the serps doing it that way.

[Jarmusch]

It should also be noted that more people will want to trade with you if your blogs are on their own domains.

[loreen]

I have had more success with keyword rich domains than subdomains, but for autoblogging or 'make it and forget about it' blogs it works just fine.

[Jdoughs]

A $100 is better then a $20.

But a $20 IS STILL A $20!

[Domain Broker]

Originally Posted by Jakez

Pretty much everyone is focused on using Wordpress, but I don't like the bulkiness and will be creating my own custom solution to use across all the sub domains. I feel like Google favors Wordpress though and might be wasting my time?

lol, it's not that bulky and can run off the smallest of virtual accounts, no need to re-invent the wheel when it's an already very viable product with many easy modifications available.

[Argos88]

After experimenting 1 year with it, many quality subdomain blogs on a main domain, is better than many sites with 1 domain each...

I don't know exactly why, but after the main domain gets some bump, all their subdomains get cached almost instantly and very high by google...

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[NinjaSteve]

How do you make a front page link list like this?
http://www.pornblogspace.com/

[Agent 488]

wikipedia had no problems with subdomains.

[Fabien]

I never had a sub domain with a good listing.

What works:
NO SUB DOMAINS
1) .com domains ONLY (at worst .net)
2) shortest possible name with the keywords in it
3) One IP assigned to it (max 5 sites attached to it)
4) Good unique content (the longer they stay the better)
5) Updated once per week (at least)
6) Keep it for a couple of years and you'll be happy !
Time isn't something you can buy, that's the sad part

[pimpware]

Bump for more tips

[Horny Joe]

I have tried it
http://pornblog1.com/
http://latinas.pornblog1.com/
http://anal.pornblog1.com/

Some seo traffic, not much. Have made just a few sales from it. I use feeds and very seldom write own posts.

[Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life]

Google seems to love Wordpress, but I don't think it has as much to do with the fact that it is WP as the structure WP uses. I don't see why you can't replicate the site structure common to most WP based blogs and apply it to any other custom platform and see the same results...

[CunningStunt]

Ever heard of blogspot?

[AzteK]

Originally Posted by NinjaSteve

How do you make a front page link list like this?
http://www.pornblogspace.com/

I'm wondering the same. A link directory software can be put up. I wonder if WPMU can be installed in a subfolder, leaving the root open for a directory.

Anyone can give some input on this?

[Andreas]

Interesting thread. Setting up such a directory with own blogs would be nice.

[NinjaSteve]

Originally Posted by AzteK

I'm wondering the same. A link directory software can be put up. I wonder if WPMU can be installed in a subfolder, leaving the root open for a directory.

Anyone can give some input on this?

Here's something that kind of does the job.
http://bavotasan.com/downloads/feed-...rdpress-theme/

[ottopottomouse]

Originally Posted by AzteK

I wonder if WPMU can be installed in a subfolder, leaving the root open for a directory.

Anyone can give some input on this?

As far as i'm aware if you do a subfolder install you can only have subfolder blogs and not subdomain ones.

[Tempest]

Originally Posted by Fabien

I never had a sub domain with a good listing.

What works:
NO SUB DOMAINS
1) .com domains ONLY (at worst .net)
2) shortest possible name with the keywords in it
3) One IP assigned to it (max 5 sites attached to it)
4) Good unique content (the longer they stay the better)
5) Updated once per week (at least)
6) Keep it for a couple of years and you'll be happy !
Time isn't something you can buy, that's the sad part

Really??? I did a test myself awhile back... Custom software instead of wordpress MU and the "posts" rotate every day so it looks like the main pages are changing... I only did 3 subdomain blog/splog build and forget type "sites"... Practically no backlinks. All the post text is "canned" so I didn't write anything, just set things up to be as SEO friendly as I could. Maybe 400 pages total between all of them... Just checking the stats, something I haven't done for months. One of them is averaging 120 SE hits a day from google... Another is getting 40 a day, and the last one only maybe 20 a day.

Damn... I should have kept going with that project.. lol

[AzteK]

Originally Posted by NinjaSteve

Here's something that kind of does the job.
http://bavotasan.com/downloads/feed-...rdpress-theme/

Thanks, I'll have a look. I've been thinking I should just keep the homepage as a hub and do the link directory on another domain with it's own IP.

[AzteK]

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

As far as i'm aware if you do a subfolder install you can only have subfolder blogs and not subdomain ones.

You're right.

[LeRoy]

I'm no SEO pro by any means.

A couple years ago I did a test though.

The SE's paid more attention to the .com/blogs than the blog.mysite.com. Just my .02

[exsexvideos]

Originally Posted by Horny Joe

I have tried it
pornblog1
latinas.pornblog1
anal.pornblog1

Some seo traffic, not much. Have made just a few sales from it. I use feeds and very seldom write own posts.

Those look great, how did you make them, what kind of traffic are you getting and how much did you make off the sales?

[Jakez]

Originally Posted by LeRoy

I'm no SEO pro by any means.

A couple years ago I did a test though.

The SE's paid more attention to the .com/blogs than the blog.mysite.com. Just my .02

Another interesting point. I have a few .com/blogs and there doesn't seem to be much penalty as far as getting SE traffic.

Hmm..

[John.]

decent thread

[harvey]

I tried it with a very customized and tuned-up WPMU version and it worked amazingly well, but I don't know if it was because of the subdomain thing or the ultra-customization (which was very oriented to SEO).

Now, this is not a fact, so take it with a grain of salt, but I have this theory: Google adds a slight bit of pizazz to subdomains since they're usually used in free host environments. Maybe not much, just a little something. If this is true, then you could build your site with subdomains and they'll add a little to your main page. Just to reinforce that, maybe you could have a working signup page that Google can follow but you set it as non automatic (meaning you have to manually approve users, which you won't)

The above being said, this gave me an idea for a tutorial based on past experiences and how to get extra traffic for free, be tuned for it

[Andreas]

Bump for an interesting thread

[Marshal]

Originally Posted by Jdoughs

What makes the galleries is UUGallery (ref spam) which I swear by and use on anything I'll spend much time on that is Wordpress.

btw, is uugallery working with wordpress (v3.0) multi-site?

[Jdoughs]

Originally Posted by nettrust

btw, is uugallery working with wordpress (v3.0) multi-site?

Works fine for me, but linking to big photos, if you link to viewer there is some issues (probably just a quick htaccess fix but I dunno).