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Old 10-24-2010, 06:03 PM   #1
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My fellow Californians

Please do not let Jerry Brown win again. Thank you in advance.
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Old 10-24-2010, 06:05 PM   #2
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Bagdog....what is your take on prop 19? yay or nay
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lesser of 2 evils this race. but so is fiorini and boxer.
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If it's brown flush it

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2nd Amendment Gun advocates support Jerry Brown.

Thus, I support Jerry Brown.
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Brown sux and has a track record of sucking. But i don't see Meg Witmon as any better.
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Bagdog....what is your take on prop 19? yay or nay


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2nd Amendment Gun advocates support Jerry Brown.

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Brown sux and has a track record of sucking. But i don't see Meg Witmon as any better.
I don't know how much better she will be, but we know Brown will doom us. Meg is the only chance we have.
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Please do not let Jerry Brown win again. Thank you in advance.
My Dad tells me that Jerry Brown was the worst thing that ever happened to California. Not that Meg Whitman is any better! It appears that California is fucked no matter which way it goes. And taht Prop 19 thing? Wait until the DEA runs a couple of "test" busts and puts a few people in jail for possessing what can grow wild in their yards.

Meg Whitman is no peach though and reember how she fucked up eBay:

Meg Whitman:

http://www.negmeg2010.com/2010/10/24...g-whitman-day/

Jerry Brown:

http://www.jerryfails.com/

You poor folks in California are truly screwed, blued and tattooed as you have only the choice of lesser evils.

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whichever side you're on, you gotta love this commercial

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Please do not let Jerry Brown win again. Thank you in advance.
dont worry about him...

the only thing i need you to focus on is getting that marijuana bill passed....





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the only thing i need you to focus on is getting that marijuana bill passed....





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i'm not so sure i like the idea.
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the only thing i need you to focus on is getting that marijuana bill passed....





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I am not holding my breath on that happening.
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dont worry about him...

the only thing i need you to focus on is getting that marijuana bill passed....





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Hmmmmmm..................Obama opposes legalization, even for medical pot. How are you going to handle that? Will California SECEDE? Don't think the feds won't make a show over Prop 19 if it passes? Heard of places like Ruby Ridge and Waco?

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_1...02-503544.html

Mr. Obama has in the past expressed his opposition to legalizing marijuana.

The document released today argues that the administration is opposed to the idea because keeping drugs illegal reduces their availability and lessens people's willingness to use them.

"Diagnostic, laboratory, clinical, and epidemiological studies clearly indicate that marijuana use is associated with dependence, respiratory and mental illness, poor motor performance, and cognitive impairment, among other negative effects, and legalization would only exacerbate these problems," the document states.

The Obama Justice Department last year said it would not seek to arrest users or providers or medical marijuana, so long as they are in compliance with state laws.

However, Gil Kerlikowske, director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy, last month declined to speculate on what actions the Obama administration would take if the ballot initiative passed in California, the Hill reported."
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I am not holding my breath on that happening.
49% for

42% against





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i'm not so sure i like the idea.
it's time and there are so many benefits outside of the tax revenue...

if it is legalized, people will understand why it should have been done years ago...





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42% against





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Is that your prediction or the latest poll? If the latter, how many of those 49% do you think will make it to the polling place on the right day?
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Saw that one on tv the other day, very effective

A couple of months ago I didn't think that Brown had a chance, now I wouldn't bet against him

I remember how bad he was, a lot of younger people in Ca have no idea how bad he was

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i'm not so sure i like the idea.
I just read an article on NPR where moms and cops want it legalized and stoners don't. It would get Cali out of debt and hopefully create some jobs.

Cali's pot is a $14 billion dollar industry whereas the second highest earning commodity is milk at $7 billion. It would save 1 billion just in prisons and Oakland anticipates it would net $12 million per year.

The stoners obviously don't want the tax but it will also put the local growers who are off the grid to lose their job essentially.
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if it is legalized, people will understand why it should have been done years ago...





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I just read an article on NPR where moms and cops want it legalized and stoners don't. It would get Cali out of debt and hopefully create some jobs.

Cali's pot is a $14 billion dollar industry whereas the second highest earning commodity is milk at $7 billion. It would save 1 billion just in prisons and Oakland anticipates it would net $12 million per year.

The stoners obviously don't want the tax but it will also put the local growers who are off the grid to lose their job essentially.
i've read conflicting reports on the economic impact. i'm not opposed to paying a tax for pot and i also don't think the fed gov would take cali to task on this, and the amount saved by not pursuing smoking as a crime is also considered. but some reports show there will be a net loss of jobs and fed dollars.

thus my not sure stance. not to mention, it's pretty easy to get set-up to legally smoke.
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Meg Whitman has already broken U.S. political spending records by dumping $140 million into her campaign, and yet she still trails Jerry Brown in the polls.

Meg was born with a silver/gold/platinum spoon in her mouth. All she is, comes from her old money family dynasty. She really has no politics of her own, as someone already posted:



Arnold played his role as "Acting" Governor, and he failed to change much of anything for the positive during his tenure. All Meg seems to do is parrot Arnold's same tired old PR crafted words which are devoid of any substance, and change nothing except the name etched on the door to the Governor's mansion.

To me, Jerry Brown is not simply a politician for his ego, nor is he merely trying to primarily serve the big money interests like Arnold and Meg Whitman.

Brown has always struck me as a pragmatic, optimistic, public servant, and for that I respect him, and therefore I will vote for him in the upcoming election.

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Do you people not realize that even if California legalizes pot on the state level, it is STILL ILLEGAL under Federal Law and Federal Law TRUMPS State Law?

There is a real confrontation brewing here and I LOVE it!
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Brown has always struck me as a pragmatic, optimistic, public servant, and for that I respect him, and therefore I will vote for him in the upcoming election.

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Really? How long have you been familiar with him? Are you planning on moving anyway?
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Meg Whitman has already broken U.S. political spending records by dumping $140 million into her campaign, and yet she still trails Jerry Brown in the polls.

Meg was born with a silver/gold/platinum spoon in her mouth. All she is, comes from her old money family dynasty. She really has no politics of her own, as someone already posted:


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Do you people not realize that even if California legalizes pot on the state level, it is STILL ILLEGAL under Federal Law and Federal Law TRUMPS State Law?

There is a real confrontation brewing here and I LOVE it!
same with medicinal, and no issues.
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Really? How long have you been familiar with him? Are you planning on moving anyway?
Jerry Brown is a Born Again Idiot.
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don't forget, the guvunator recently decriminalized the weed too.
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Rose Elizabeth Bird (November 2, 1936–December 4, 1999) served for 10 years as the 25th Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of California. She was the first female Justice, and first female Chief Justice, on that court, appointed by then Governor Jerry Brown. In the November 1986 state election she also became the only Californian Chief Justice to be removed from office by the voters, primarily due to her ultra-liberal rulings.
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linda's a victim of ben & jerry. not just jerry.
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linda's a victim of ben & jerry. not just jerry.
She was a babe up until the time they became a couple. It was all downhill from there. I don't think Ben & Jerry's was even around back then.
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2nd Amendment Gun advocates support Jerry Brown.

Thus, I support Jerry Brown.
Your gun advocates also enjoy bashing Obama for many of the same practices outside of private gun ownership that Jerry Brown supports.

So if you enjoy giving money to people that don't deserve it via higher taxes, go right ahead. Personally, I believe churches and freeway off-ramps are much better solution and only effect the wallets of the bleeding hearts.
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She was a babe up until the time they became a couple. It was all downhill from there. I don't think Ben & Jerry's was even around back then.
i should of added a and a

i didn't even know they were married, meant it as a metaphor for ice cream with a play on names.


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I don't think she ever married him.
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well, at least you know i'm not bs'in about not knowing! lolz
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well, at least you know i'm not bs'in about not knowing! lolz
I figured they were before your time.
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Just an FYI: I voted for him the first time around. Never again.
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which way are y'all voting in the fiorini/boxer match?
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which way are y'all voting in the fiorini/boxer match?
Giving Boxer the boot.
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yeah, i'm veering that direction i just wish the alternative wasn't one of the worst CEOs in the history of corporate America.
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yeah, i'm veering that direction i just wish the alternative wasn't one of the worst CEOs in the history of corporate America.
I know, but Boxer has had her chance. I am pretty much voting to replace everyone. And yes, I have always voted for her in the past.
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Not saying I'm happy with Boxer but how in the fuck could anyone vote for Fiorina? She is one giant clusterfuck.
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Not saying I'm happy with Boxer but how in the fuck could anyone vote for Fiorina? She is one giant clusterfuck.
Can you expand on that please?
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Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
think about that
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Old 10-25-2010, 09:54 AM   #48
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Brown sux and has a track record of sucking. But i don't see Meg Witmon as any better.
yes and yes
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Do you people not realize that even if California legalizes pot on the state level, it is STILL ILLEGAL under Federal Law and Federal Law TRUMPS State Law?
Federal law does not "trump" state law, it is a separate jurisdiction -- semantics, perhaps, but any federal charges would be brought before a jury of Californians, with an uncertain outcome.

The important consideration here is that while 19 does not get into plant limits, which the state declared unconstitutional earlier this year, but regulates grow area size, there is a federal 5 year mandatory minimum jail sentence once you hit 100 plants.

There are a lot of folks, I'll call them "the 99'ers" that worry far more about that number than about anything else -- and a lot of folks that don't know any better.

Oh, and while Brown's guidelines for collectives, which he penned as Atty General, are reasonable and prudent IMHO, Meg = eBay and eBay rocks.

California needs a businesswoman, but it also needs a legal marijuana industry
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It seems like 99% of the time you have to choose the lesser of the 2 evils. And in the end they are both Politicians.
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