Piracy is GOOD for music! - GoFuckYourself.com

donkevlar · 10-28-2010, 02:54 AM

FACT: Piracy helps musicians that are GOOD. It only hurts a tiny percent of terrible major label artists and the RIAA's bank account.

The majority of people in the world don't buy music, ever. Recordings have become promotional material to sell concert tickets and merchandise. More people with your music = more fans = more concert attendees + merch sales + ipod ad revenue.

Combat porn piracy all you want, torrents aren't helping xxx, but damnit stop perpetuating the myth that free music is bad, you are hurting the artists!

Coup · 10-28-2010, 02:57 AM

Lol.....

madawgz · 10-28-2010, 02:58 AM

but then a huge majority of personnel at RIAA would lost thier jobs..

what about their kids or mortgages !!! ;)

TeenCat · 10-28-2010, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by madawgz

but then a huge majority of personnel at RIAA would lost thier jobs..

what about their kids or mortgages !!! ;)

cause of my radio station i had to deal with our local riaa and i was in their offices, and when i finally came out i felt like fucked to the ass ... only fucking old people eating and two girls doing totally nothing just talking about their weekend and vacation, then some fat pig talked to me and was like he is god and i am some shit who want to make own radio station ... fuck, i am pissed when i think about it again, fire them now, fucking fat useless bastards ...

Mutt · 10-28-2010, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by donkevlar

FACT: Piracy helps musicians that are GOOD. It only hurts a tiny percent of terrible major label artists and the RIAA's bank account.

The majority of people in the world don't buy music, ever. Recordings have become promotional material to sell concert tickets and merchandise. More people with your music = more fans = more concert attendees + merch sales + ipod ad revenue.

Combat porn piracy all you want, torrents aren't helping xxx, but damnit stop perpetuating the myth that free music is bad, you are hurting the artists!

i agree, i've grabbed all your artwork and will be giving it away. people will see your copyright and you will get more customers to produce more cartoons for. i'll take those cartoons and distribute them and you will have even more customers. with all the fans you will have you can make donkevlar tshirts and mugs and sell them.

DamianJ · 10-28-2010, 03:22 AM

obvious troll is...

donkevlar · 10-28-2010, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

i agree, i've grabbed all your artwork and will be giving it away. people will see your copyright and you will get more customers to produce more cartoons for. i'll take those cartoons and distribute them and you will have even more customers. with all the fans you will have you can make donkevlar tshirts and mugs and sell them.

Who said anything about art work?

Davy · 10-28-2010, 03:35 AM

Just because I can get music for free does not make me want to go to a concert of the artists. Not one bit.

Go fuck yourself.

donkevlar · 10-28-2010, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Davy

Just because I can get music for free does not make me want to go to a concert of the artists. Not one bit.

Go fuck yourself.

Of course not, I did not say anything of the sort. You have to HEAR them and LIKE them to want to go to their concert, and unless they have a huge budget to spend on advertising to get you to HEAR and LIKE them they're going to rely on the magical wonders of FREE promotion to millions of people on the internet...

I am telling you this as a musician who knows first hand, I'm not talking out of my ass or trying to "troll" or whatever you kids are saying.

DamianJ · 10-28-2010, 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by donkevlar

I'm not talking out of my ass or trying to "troll" or whatever you kids are saying.

As I approach my 39th birthday, I love being called a kid.

And yes, you are obvious.

donkevlar · 10-28-2010, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ

As I approach my 39th birthday, I love being called a kid.

And yes, you are obvious.

Happy birthday. If I was "trolling" I would have said piracy is good for XXX... I'm trying to clear up misconceptions about the music industry which I am a part of and know very well...

donkevlar · 10-28-2010, 03:54 AM

ps damian I've been trying to hit you up on ICQ about that toon work you needed done for like a week!

seeandsee · 10-28-2010, 03:56 AM

i guess it can rise some $$$ but imagine there is no free stuff, more money will be there!

fatfoo · 10-28-2010, 06:07 AM

I have seen people buying albums rather than downloading them for free because of more respect for the artist.

CaptainHowdy · 10-28-2010, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by TeenCat

cause of my radio station i had to deal with our local riaa and i was in their offices, and when i finally came out i felt like fucked to the ass ... only fucking old people eating and two girls doing totally nothing just talking about their weekend and vacation, then some fat pig talked to me and was like he is god and i am some shit who want to make own radio station ... fuck, i am pissed when i think about it again, fire them now, fucking fat useless bastards ...

Makes me want to work there...

Agent 488 · 10-28-2010, 06:29 AM

i never bought a single piece of music since napster.

DamianJ · 10-28-2010, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by donkevlar

ps damian I've been trying to hit you up on ICQ about that toon work you needed done for like a week!

Oh, I thought you were a russian spammer.

Got it done elsewhere, thanks though.

PR_Glen · 10-28-2010, 06:52 AM

its not just a matter of promotion though. the record companies make money off sales of course, but they are the ones that sign the bands and allow them to be able to quit their jobs and make music and tour in the first place. How does a band go from their garage or basement to a tour without that? Torrents? Youtube? its possible but highly unlikely...

In fact I think that's partially why music has been so terrible lately. Sure there are good bands out there and there is some good stuff coming out but not if you listen to the radio. According to the radio, around here anyway, it is all commercial pop crap that nobody will remember in 5 years.

Good bands are not getting signed because all their fans have their music already so they can't make bank on cd sales and putting them on tour isn't profitable enough for them as much as it is the bands so the only ones they do sign are the ken and barbie dolls they can market for and sell posters and other endless merchandise off of.

Would Tool be signed if they just came out today? How about David Bowie? The Rolling Stones? Bob Dylan? No way... not pretty enough.

Agent 488 · 10-28-2010, 06:58 AM

the radio has been total garbage for 30 years. there is a renaissance in music at the moment with lowered recording and distribution costs. there are literally too many mind blowing artists to count. go to the myspace of an act you like, and click on the friends that are musicians - great way to discover music.

TheDoc · 10-28-2010, 07:10 AM

I'm not a huge music person... but the Internet has expanded my music base, types of music, artists songs, all over the world, the talent the world has is mind blowing and now it's no longer restricted, no longer limited, repeated 10000 times, forced on me is gone. It has made me attend more concerts, hit more clubs to listen to artists, seek those artists out and want/plan for future events around the world based on the music/events happening.

I purchased my last music cd 4-5 years ago... but I still buy music, I just do it smarter today and buy exactly what I want.

Agent 488 · 10-28-2010, 07:13 AM

although there is much more and better music due to the internet have a spent more? no. i spend less. never bought any music since napster and attend the same amount of shows. listen to most of my music on youtube or listen to internet radio stations. don't download anything any more.

BlackCrayon · 10-28-2010, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by donkevlar

Of course not, I did not say anything of the sort. You have to HEAR them and LIKE them to want to go to their concert, and unless they have a huge budget to spend on advertising to get you to HEAR and LIKE them they're going to rely on the magical wonders of FREE promotion to millions of people on the internet...

I am telling you this as a musician who knows first hand, I'm not talking out of my ass or trying to "troll" or whatever you kids are saying.

this only works for the smaller musicians. big name acts have always sold out long before piracy was around. back in the day I used to spend 100 dollars a week on cds...

Kolargol · 10-28-2010, 07:49 AM

I can imagine millions of people downloading free Michael Jackson or Frank Sinatra mp3 from torrents and then going to their concerts.

RycEric · 10-28-2010, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

i agree, i've grabbed all your artwork and will be giving it away. people will see your copyright and you will get more customers to produce more cartoons for. i'll take those cartoons and distribute them and you will have even more customers. with all the fans you will have you can make donkevlar tshirts and mugs and sell them.

I am selling on ebay and sublicensing to redtube.

j/k

10-28-2010, 02:54 AM	#1
donkevlar Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 4,325	Piracy is GOOD for music! FACT: Piracy helps musicians that are GOOD. It only hurts a tiny percent of terrible major label artists and the RIAA's bank account. The majority of people in the world don't buy music, ever. Recordings have become promotional material to sell concert tickets and merchandise. More people with your music = more fans = more concert attendees + merch sales + ipod ad revenue. Combat porn piracy all you want, torrents aren't helping xxx, but damnit stop perpetuating the myth that free music is bad, you are hurting the artists! __________________ [email protected]

10-28-2010, 02:58 AM	#3
madawgz 8.8.8.8 Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Noordermarkt Posts: 30,509	but then a huge majority of personnel at RIAA would lost thier jobs.. what about their kids or mortgages !!! ;) __________________ TAEMDLRMSKRJIXMRLSMRJ.

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Davy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 4,323	Just because I can get music for free does not make me want to go to a concert of the artists. Not one bit. Go fuck yourself. __________________ --- ICQ 14-76-98 <-- I don't use this at all

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donkevlar Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 4,325	ps damian I've been trying to hit you up on ICQ about that toon work you needed done for like a week! __________________ [email protected]

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DamianJ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: A magical land Posts: 15,808	obvious troll is...

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fatfoo ICQ:649699063 Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 27,763	I have seen people buying albums rather than downloading them for free because of more respect for the artist. __________________ Send me an email: [email protected]

10-28-2010, 06:29 AM	#16
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	i never bought a single piece of music since napster.

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PR_Glen Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 9,058	its not just a matter of promotion though. the record companies make money off sales of course, but they are the ones that sign the bands and allow them to be able to quit their jobs and make music and tour in the first place. How does a band go from their garage or basement to a tour without that? Torrents? Youtube? its possible but highly unlikely... In fact I think that's partially why music has been so terrible lately. Sure there are good bands out there and there is some good stuff coming out but not if you listen to the radio. According to the radio, around here anyway, it is all commercial pop crap that nobody will remember in 5 years. Good bands are not getting signed because all their fans have their music already so they can't make bank on cd sales and putting them on tour isn't profitable enough for them as much as it is the bands so the only ones they do sign are the ken and barbie dolls they can market for and sell posters and other endless merchandise off of. Would Tool be signed if they just came out today? How about David Bowie? The Rolling Stones? Bob Dylan? No way... not pretty enough. __________________ webmaster at pimproll dot com

10-28-2010, 06:58 AM	#19
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	the radio has been total garbage for 30 years. there is a renaissance in music at the moment with lowered recording and distribution costs. there are literally too many mind blowing artists to count. go to the myspace of an act you like, and click on the friends that are musicians - great way to discover music.

10-28-2010, 07:10 AM	#20
TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	I'm not a huge music person... but the Internet has expanded my music base, types of music, artists songs, all over the world, the talent the world has is mind blowing and now it's no longer restricted, no longer limited, repeated 10000 times, forced on me is gone. It has made me attend more concerts, hit more clubs to listen to artists, seek those artists out and want/plan for future events around the world based on the music/events happening. I purchased my last music cd 4-5 years ago... but I still buy music, I just do it smarter today and buy exactly what I want. __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation

10-28-2010, 07:13 AM	#21
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	although there is much more and better music due to the internet have a spent more? no. i spend less. never bought any music since napster and attend the same amount of shows. listen to most of my music on youtube or listen to internet radio stations. don't download anything any more.

10-28-2010, 07:49 AM	#23
Kolargol Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: www.footfetishsponsors.com Posts: 1,319	I can imagine millions of people downloading free Michael Jackson or Frank Sinatra mp3 from torrents and then going to their concerts.