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Old 01-13-2003, 07:34 AM   #1
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News Alert: Spam Program Invades GFY

I now have a nice list of people never to do business with, thanks to all this DankCash ridiculousness. I cannot believe some of the people who have come out of the woodwork not to give opinions or say hello, but give 'shot outs' or 'props' or basically tell these guys that they are the future of the industry.

It is a sad day when a bunch of 18 and 17 year olds are the future of any industry other than snowboarding or gymnastics.

In a relative sense we are all the 'future' in some way. Some of us are future retirees, some of us are future McDonald's employees. These kids ARE future webmasters, assuming they can stick with it long enough to establish themselves.

Whatever relative 'success' DankCash and co. had spamming CEN as minors (some of them were actually named in the AOL lawsuit) there are certain things that simply come with age. 5 18 year-olds doesn't add up to one 90 year-old, or even one 40 year-old. I wouldn't trust my money to a group of kids any more than I'd let one borrow my BMW to take his girlfriend on a date.

Not sure what my point is, but it was certainly an eye-opener to some peoples' business 'ethics.'
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Old 01-13-2003, 07:36 AM   #2
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Old 01-13-2003, 07:38 AM   #4
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make sure you drive back that BMW I lent you in top top shape.

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Kind of lost my point in the middle of the post. Maybe my point was 'watch what you say in public, because someone else always is.'
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Kind of lost my point in the middle of the post. Maybe my point was 'watch what you say in public, because someone else always is.'

...and your point is?
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Old 01-13-2003, 07:46 AM   #9
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mpegposter,

age does not bring respect,
you have to earn it.

a 90 year old who never did anything in his life is nothing.

a 15 year old who succeeded more then twenty 90 years olds put together gets RESPECT.


Its not how old are you, its what you have done.


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Old 01-13-2003, 07:46 AM   #10
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i dont understand why you are beating this dead horse.

everyone is well aware that you hate us.

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Old 01-13-2003, 07:47 AM   #11
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Okay since I'm on hold here's another question:

What makes DankCash any different than any other program? Why would people be so 'impressed' with them? Their sites are anything but original. Their program doesn't have a working signup page. Couple that with their ages and history as criminal offenders, and why would you want to WORK with these people?

Why would you want to send traffic to any program you knew harbored major league spammers? What do you think happens when an ISP drops them. Or when they're slapped with lawsuits by Earthlink, AOL, or whoever. It's not a risk of doing business if you have OTHER CHOICES.

I'm not getting mad, just trying to hammer home what I've been saying all along; you can work with whoever you want, but as a smart businessperson wouldn't you do your best to minimize your own risk as a webmaster?
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I like your style mpegposter

Moral and ethical people in this biz are few and far between in the rush for the almighty $$. Rape and pillage while you can seems to be the message these days.
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worry about yourself. you can't change people... you should know this by now
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Okay since I'm on hold here's another question:

What makes DankCash any different than any other program? Why would people be so 'impressed' with them? Their sites are anything but original. Their program doesn't have a working signup page. Couple that with their ages and history as criminal offenders, and why would you want to WORK with these people?

Why would you want to send traffic to any program you knew harbored major league spammers? What do you think happens when an ISP drops them. Or when they're slapped with lawsuits by Earthlink, AOL, or whoever. It's not a risk of doing business if you have OTHER CHOICES.

I'm not getting mad, just trying to hammer home what I've been saying all along; you can work with whoever you want, but as a smart businessperson wouldn't you do your best to minimize your own risk as a webmaster?
god stfu already don't do business with us then if you're that scared then stay the fuck away.

this industry was partly built on spam or whatever you want to call it - anyone who is big might not admit it, but most of the players in the industry got their wad off of spam cash.

you are obviously just oblivous to the truth and i can't imagine why you would continue posting about us if you werent jocking our nuts.

shut the fuck up already.
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mpeg don't worry dude sit back and say "I told you so",in this case it's bound to happen.
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Wasn't 'jocking your nuts' if any other program came along with similar roots and got this kind of response I'd be equally revolted.

If you read back to some of my prior posts I also rail on 4-5 other small-to-big programs who have questionable ethics and techniques.

I realize consistency is something generally lacking in this industry, but you have now met someone who has it. I will wake up tomorrow feeling as I did today. Noone has ever needed to cheat and steal to make money, and anyone telling you different is a cheater/thief.
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mpeg don't worry dude sit back and say "I told you so",in this case it's bound to happen.
Amen to that. I'm off the phone now, so back to business.

Glad I could be mildly entertaining for a few of you in the early morning hours.
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Wasn't 'jocking your nuts' if any other program came along with similar roots and got this kind of response I'd be equally revolted.

If you read back to some of my prior posts I also rail on 4-5 other small-to-big programs who have questionable ethics and techniques.

I realize consistency is something generally lacking in this industry, but you have now met someone who has it. I will wake up tomorrow feeling as I did today. Noone has ever needed to cheat and steal to make money, and anyone telling you different is a cheater/thief.
well i respect your consistancy because you are right that is a genuine element missing in this business.

and you can hold whatever you want against us - it wont stop the shining. we are all well aware that spam is not going to be any kind of revolutionary super cash payout for the rest of our lives which is exactly why we have turned our business focus to this affiliate program. as i have stated before, anyone who has done prior dealings with us will vouch for our credibility and professionalism. i hope that one day you will come around and all your misconceptions will be laid to rest and we can do some real business sometime.
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Moral and ethical people in this biz are few and far between in the rush for the almighty $$. Rape and pillage while you can seems to be the message these days.
Rape and pillage? These guys were spamming when it was no big deal. I can't name many programs from the late 90's I wasn't spammed ads for. Now that spam is such a big deal for whatever reason something they did years ago is bugging you. Ask the webmasters on here who has spammed before. Not now, when they started in the biz. Probably alot more than you think. Email was where the money was then and they took advantage of it. How the hell is it any different that getting circle jerked and dicked around by sites, webmasters, cross sales, 30 minute trials, deceiving sites, crappy members sections, etc. I would much rather delete an email or 100 than put up with any one of the others.

I still get spam. I delete it. I still get junk mail, I throw it away. I don't care. If the Dank Cash crew made a fortune being some of the first to take email to that level good for them. When I first got online people were paying spammers left and right to send messages. Email was advertised to BUSINESSES as the cheapest, most effective way to get a message across.

I would rather work with some insightful 18 year olds than someone scared of any change or any method they don't approve of.

Just my . I have always found that younger guys aren't as likely to be stuck in their single track way of thinking and are willing to look for new ways to become profitable. DC you have responded with some of the nicest replies to people talking shit than I have ever seen. More than I could have done.

Keep it up and good luck. I plan on giving you a run for your money very soon.

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well i respect your consistancy because you are right that is a genuine element missing in this business.

and you can hold whatever you want against us - it wont stop the shining. we are all well aware that spam is not going to be any kind of revolutionary super cash payout for the rest of our lives which is exactly why we have turned our business focus to this affiliate program. as i have stated before, anyone who has done prior dealings with us will vouch for our credibility and professionalism. i hope that one day you will come around and all your misconceptions will be laid to rest and we can do some real business sometime.
Did you take your medication between those 2 replies to Mpegposter? One of them is almost business like in manner and the other one isn't..
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Did you take your medication between those 2 replies to Mpegposter? One of them is almost business like in manner and the other one isn't..
my fingers hurt from battling these people with my keyboard.

i might start funding dankcash via lawsuits from reponding to these posts resulting in carpal tunnel.
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Keep it up and good luck. I plan on giving you a run for your money very soon.

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no doubt - we appreciate your kind words. things like this will always draw a line in the sand, and ultimately the choice is up to the individual anyway. this is why i am not grasping the concept of why people are still bothering to discuss it.

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no doubt - we appreciate your kind words. things like this will always draw a line in the sand, and ultimately the choice is up to the individual anyway. this is why i am not grasping the concept of why people are still bothering to discuss it.

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It is a sad day when a bunch of 18 and 17 year olds are the future of any industry other than snowboarding or gymnastics.
aren't they infact the future of EVERY INDUSTRY ?

people age man .
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WTF? I skipped all the dankcash posts, I thought they were jokes, I guess I'll have to go back and see what the brouhaha is about.

Tho I can't imagine I'd ever knowingly send my traffic to anyone not old enough to have at least been kicked out of college.
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What about the ones that didn't go to college? I didn't go to college because I knew I wanted more than a lousy paying every day grind of a job.

Just for future reference. When I have a webmaster program should I come on here with a different name, say I'm 50 and instantly be more qualified than a "kid"?
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Like Whiney Houston says....

" The children are our future, teach them well, and let them lead the way...."

Of course she sounded better when she sings it!

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I now have a nice list of people never to do business with, thanks to all this DankCash ridiculousness. I cannot believe some of the people who have come out of the woodwork not to give opinions or say hello, but give 'shot outs' or 'props' or basically tell these guys that they are the future of the industry.

It is a sad day when a bunch of 18 and 17 year olds are the future of any industry other than snowboarding or gymnastics.

In a relative sense we are all the 'future' in some way. Some of us are future retirees, some of us are future McDonald's employees. These kids ARE future webmasters, assuming they can stick with it long enough to establish themselves.

Whatever relative 'success' DankCash and co. had spamming CEN as minors (some of them were actually named in the AOL lawsuit) there are certain things that simply come with age. 5 18 year-olds doesn't add up to one 90 year-old, or even one 40 year-old. I wouldn't trust my money to a group of kids any more than I'd let one borrow my BMW to take his girlfriend on a date.

Not sure what my point is, but it was certainly an eye-opener to some peoples' business 'ethics.'
This has gone on long enough, but I will humor you. Please tell me the programs you DO think are worth advertising. There is a good chance they have personally phoned me, or even flew me out to their headquarters to setup a 'behind-the-scenes' deal that some on this board must be so naive to think doesnt happen. I can tell by the way you speak about the DankCash company that you did not meet them in vegas. I would like anyone who actually had a meeting with DankCash at the show to come on here and answer some questions as to the professionalism of the company. Yes we are young, but we come from a strong business background and we are very well educated in the matter. Im sorry that the 40 year olds of today werent introduced to computers at the age of 4. But that is what happens in todays world. So please, before you judge character by some pictures, setup an unbiased meeting with some of the top executives in the company. If you dont want to do that then you are nothing but another ignorant webmaster.
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Old 01-13-2003, 12:17 PM   #46
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So please, before you judge character by some pictures, setup an unbiased meeting with some of the top executives in the company. If you dont want to do that then you are nothing but another ignorant webmaster.
some webmasters prefer to make their judgements on your sites alone. this is quite a logical stance since the sites are the product a webmaster would be selling. just because you can make a good sales pitch doesnt mean you arent selling a lemon.
so far, ur sites dont look good at all. at least, that's my opinion.
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I am assuming you live in vegas, I do too. Get in touch with me, always nice to meet more masters from the area.
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some webmasters prefer to make their judgements on your sites alone. this is quite a logical stance since the sites are the product a webmaster would be selling. just because you can make a good sales pitch doesnt mean you arent selling a lemon.
so far, ur sites dont look good at all. at least, that's my opinion.
Im sorry, but porn is porn. Yes there are niche sites but sites are always displaying some sort of human anatomy. So what else do we have in this industry? The sales pitch. What makes my site any different than the rest? The way I promote it and tease my traffic.

What makes us better than some of the other big companies? Maybe nothing, but maybe the fact that we are young, energetic, and ready to succeed. CECash, makes piles of cash... do they really give a shit what john doe that brings 3 signups a day wants? I doubt it. I talked to a guy at the convention that converts really well with amateur sites. As you all have seen we arent currently offering that. So I told him when I got home I would put up an amateur site just for him. I value his, and anybody elses business, so it is my pleasure to help him. Another site may ignore him or tell him to go fuck himself that they dont have time for him. New, young and energetic isnt a bad thing, and some of you might want to realize that.

Last thing, we have a small variety of sites yes, but that will change very fast. Some companies are too scared to take a risk and walk through life. We knew the convention dates so we hit the ground running. Sure not everything is fully operational, but we discussed that with all the people that were interested in our program. We have made the necessary accomodations and I know everyone involved will be pleased. So before people start making petty arguments, please sit back and realize all the easy answers to them.
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