Canadians: Pro-Israel no matter the cost? - GoFuckYourself.com

moeloubani · 11-08-2010, 10:33 AM

"Stephen Harper says he'll take a forceful stand against anti-Israel rhetoric no matter the political cost to his government at international organizations such as the United Nations and the Francophonie."

So what he is saying is I will stand up for Israel even if it means that the world hates Canada.

Do you think if the world is all saying 'Israel you shouldn't do this' that Canada should be one of the only ones saying 'ANYTHING Israel does is OK' at the cost of our once-upon-a-time integrity in the world?

Remember to vote, in Stephen Harper's mind Israel >>>> Canada.

Article link says: Harper vows fight against anti-semitism.

Title of article though is Harper vows to stand up for Israel.

Is being against Israel anti-semetic?

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/1..._anti_semitism

_Richard_ · 11-08-2010, 10:34 AM

it's cost us a lot already

moeloubani · 11-08-2010, 12:18 PM

What about this?

"Pro-Israeli stance cost Canada UN seat, Harper says"

http://news.therecord.com/News/article/808906

12clicks · 11-08-2010, 12:24 PM

dear anti-semites, the world agreed to protect jews and create the country of israel. What you are suggesting, is to vote against some one who defends the law as voted upon by the countries of the world. what you are, is an anti-semite.
by mischaracterizing those who hate jews as "the world" you show your lack of intelligence.

tiptop · 11-08-2010, 12:28 PM

It's way better than protecting the Muslim that threatening Canada with their 'peaceful' religion. Jews nor Israeli's never threatened or boomed in the name of the Torah as Muslims do in the name of Koran.

moeloubani · 11-08-2010, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by tiptop

It's way better than protecting the Muslim that threatening Canada with their 'peaceful' religion. Jews nor Israeli's never threatened or boomed in the name of the Torah as Muslims do in the name of Koran.

LOL What? How are Muslims threatening Canada? Do you mean the ones in Afghanistan who have never attacked Canada? The same ones that Canada is killing right now? How are they a threat to us when we're the ones over in their home killing them? Come on...

Israel killed and murdered and attempted to wipe out an entire civilization of people in the name of their Torah. Please, read up on a little history!

12clicks I love how you try to dish out the anti-Semite card as often as you can, but it doesn't work anymore. Anti-Israel is not anti-Semite, Anti-Arab IS anti-Semite so if anyone from me and you is a REAL anti-Semite it is YOU 12clicks, not me.

kostas · 11-08-2010, 12:39 PM

“The ideology of the anti-Israeli mob tell us all too well that those who threaten the existence of the Jewish people are in the longer term a threat to us all,” Harper said.

Very clever boy, Canadian friends.
He forgot the 500+ convictions of Israel by the UN for crimes against other people.
If you, the Canadians , are a such known criminal then yes, you should worry.

moeloubani · 11-08-2010, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tiptop

It's way better than protecting the Muslim that threatening Canada with their 'peaceful' religion. Jews nor Israeli's never threatened or boomed in the name of the Torah as Muslims do in the name of Koran.

Israel also has 100 nuclear weapons, something that is never questioned at the UN because it is considered "anti-Semetic" to do so. Is that right? They haven't signed the NPT treaty and are among Pakistan, India and North Korea - the only other countries to not have signed. They don't allow UN weapons inspectors into Israel, something that Iran allows even today.

Should we be forfeiting our position as an honest and proud country in this world so that we can allow things like illegal nuclear weapons, the constant aggression towards and murder of Palestinians, the constant breaking of pauses in conflict and supporting a non-elected government into power over a democratically elected government? Is that what Canada is now?

That boils me down to the core - do what you want in the Middle East Israel but don't you fucking fuck with Canada - when my family came here we came here because Canada was known worldwide as a place where peace, honesty and fairness were the virtues that made you Canadian. This supporting of illegal occupations and illegal nuclear weapons at the cost of our national identity is killing me. I hate to see it.

12clicks · 11-08-2010, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by moeloubani

LOL What? How are Muslims threatening Canada? Do you mean the ones in Afghanistan who have never attacked Canada? The same ones that Canada is killing right now? How are they a threat to us when we're the ones over in their home killing them? Come on...

Israel killed and murdered and attempted to wipe out an entire civilization of people in the name of their Torah. Please, read up on a little history!

12clicks I love how you try to dish out the anti-Semite card as often as you can, but it doesn't work anymore. Anti-Israel is not anti-Semite, Anti-Arab IS anti-Semite so if anyone from me and you is a REAL anti-Semite it is YOU 12clicks, not me.

sure kid.

kostas · 11-08-2010, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by tiptop

It's way better than protecting the Muslim that threatening Canada with their 'peaceful' religion. Jews nor Israeli's never threatened or boomed in the name of the Torah as Muslims do in the name of Koran.

You have not to protect anyone else than your countries. Not Jews, not Muslim either.

cwd · 11-08-2010, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

dear anti-semites, the world agreed to protect jews and create the country of israel. What you are suggesting, is to vote against some one who defends the law as voted upon by the countries of the world. what you are, is an anti-semite.
by mischaracterizing those who hate jews as "the world" you show your lack of intelligence.

Well, the "world" actually agreed to partition the area into separate Jewish and Arab countries.

But to try and get into the complexities of that area of the world in a porn forum seems a bit much.

WarChild · 11-08-2010, 12:46 PM

Neg repped for being a hater.

pornguy · 11-08-2010, 12:48 PM

Guys.. Guys.. Come on... the world hates Canada already!

Just kidding. that's a fucked up thing for this guy to say for sure.

moeloubani · 11-08-2010, 12:48 PM

When people said slaves should be free at first they were hated too. I'm proud to be one of the first that were right. Negative rep on!

WarChild · 11-08-2010, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by moeloubani

When people said slaves should be free at first they were hated too. I'm proud to be one of the first that were right. Negative rep on!

I totally agree with you here man! I also think slaves should be free. Unfortunately Liberal cry babies won't let us own them at any cost, much less for free.

_Richard_ · 11-08-2010, 01:44 PM

it's not that messed up, even tho the OP has definitely got some dogs in the race

the UN seat example is a good point on how our government is handling it's support of Israel

Agent 488 · 11-08-2010, 01:47 PM

Stephen Harper does not speak for canada.

Dcat · 11-08-2010, 02:51 PM

The grip Israel has on the Western governments never ceases to amaze me.

machinegunkelly · 11-08-2010, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

Stephen Harper does not speak for canada.

He's a fucking moron.
Can't wait till he's history.

12clicks · 11-08-2010, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dcat

The grip Israel has on the Western governments never ceases to amaze me.

Its called standing by your word.

Little Canadian kiddies have a hard time with that apparently.

TheDoc · 11-08-2010, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

Its called standing by your word.

Little Canadian kiddies have a hard time with that apparently.

Haven't you said we should pull out of the wars, yet you preach standing by your (our) word, when we've given our word to see this through?

It's called a double standard...

_Richard_ · 11-08-2010, 03:51 PM

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/09/wo...pdate&emc=aua1

funny article, considering the US lack of backing for our bid

12clicks · 11-08-2010, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

Haven't you said we should pull out of the wars, yet you preach standing by your (our) word, when we've given our word to see this through?

It's called a double standard...

Dear idiot, once again you type about things you have no understanding of.

Run along and find any of my quotes even suggesting that, little boy

directfiesta · 11-08-2010, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

Stephen Harper does not speak for canada.

I second that ...

He is a " minority " government, and mainly supported in the west of the country.

I cannot understand supporting " any country " without looking at what there is to support .... as a blanket position...

On the other hand, he is after all " mini-bush " ...

TheDoc · 11-08-2010, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

Dear idiot, once again you type about things you have no understanding of.

Run along and find any of my quotes even suggesting that, little boy

Understanding of... I guess True, but really I just don't get double standards or hypocrisy, so I really don't want to understand them.

Anyway, It was in one of those spending / gov too big threads or....your view on reducing the gov size/spending is pure hypocrisy.

Which is it, the double standard or hypocrisy?

12clicks · 11-08-2010, 04:09 PM

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Understanding of... I guess True, but really I just don't get double standards or hypocrisy, so I really don't want to understand them.

Anyway, It was in one of those spending / gov too big threads or....your view on reducing the gov size/spending is pure hypocrisy.

Which is it, the double standard or hypocrisy?

Neither, it's a half-whit NATS installer lying.

Now run along chump, as with most of your life, you've misfired again

moeloubani · 11-08-2010, 04:28 PM

12clicks are you TheDemon?

TheDoc · 11-08-2010, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

Neither, it's a half-whit NATS installer lying.

Now run along chump, as with most of your life, you've misfired again

Damn you sure get defensive on a question... and questions aren't lies. Again, why so defensive?

Anyway, if you don't think the war should end, then you're a hypocrite. You scream big gov, over spending, country is going in a hole, yet... you're okay with the biggest cost we have. Okay....

No misfire buddy...but good try.

And yes, my Company does NATS installs.... Normally with programs/sites like yours though once they've reached the bottom they're pretty hard to build back up. Being so I require less than majority control of the shares of the Company overall (not growth), then I'll rebuild it for you.

12clicks · 11-08-2010, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

Damn you sure get defensive on a question... and questions aren't lies. Again, why so defensive?

Anyway, if you don't think the war should end, then you're a hypocrite. You scream big gov, over spending, country is going in a hole, yet... you're okay with the biggest cost we have. Okay....

No misfire buddy...but good try.

And yes, my Company does NATS installs.... Normally with programs/sites like yours though once they've reached the bottom they're pretty hard to build back up. Being so I require less than majority control of the shares of the Company overall (not growth), then I'll rebuild it for you.

As I suspected, trash.
Can't find a quote to back up your bullshit yet again.
No wonder after all these years in this business you're still at the bottom of the barrel.

Tell me, does constantly looking for my negative attention make up for your lack of success?
It gotta be something like that.

SmokeyTheBear · 11-08-2010, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

the world agreed to protect jews and create the country of israel.

Dear racist douchebag , the world did not agree that israel can do no wrong nor did we agree to participate in the terrorism and mass killing israel perpetrates. Israel exists from donations and handouts , when they run out israel will cease to exist.

SallyRand · 11-08-2010, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by moeloubani

What about this?

"Pro-Israeli stance cost Canada UN seat, Harper says"

http://news.therecord.com/News/article/808906

One word:

Horseshit.

12clicks · 11-08-2010, 05:17 PM

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Dear racist douchebag , the world did not agree that israel can do no wrong nor did we agree to participate in the terrorism and mass killing israel perpetrates. Israel exists from donations and handouts , when they run out israel will cease to exist.

Welcom home from the day job, punk.
Israel has a right to protect itself against attack just like the rest of the world. If you could read, you could find plenty of books describing the history of Israel and the constant attacks they've endured since day one.

SmokeyTheBear · 11-08-2010, 05:34 PM

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Welcom home from the day job, punk.

i think what you meant to say was that it hurts you when others are successfull while you are not ?

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Israel has a right to protect itself against attack just like the rest of the world.

"protecting myself against attack" can mean anything, If my neighbour has a shovel , i could kill him because i was "protecting myself from a potential attack " or he might have been digging a hole, as it turns out israel manages to kill alot of people digging holes, many people including myself have a problem with that ..

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If you could read.

yes you got me , i can't read , i have a telepathic link to you.

12clicks · 11-08-2010, 05:41 PM

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i think what you meant to say was that it hurts you when others are successfull while you are

No,what I meant is out of work 60 year old script kiddies always make me laugh.

moeloubani · 11-08-2010, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

Welcom home from the day job, punk.
Israel has a right to protect itself against attack just like the rest of the world.

Does Iran have the right to protect itself from Israel by having the same weapons as they do (ie undeclared nuclear weapons)?

Or just the countries that you see fit? Must suck to be fighting for evil!

dyna mo · 11-08-2010, 05:46 PM

yeah, more nukes is the answer.

nukes for everyone!

yay nukes.

12clicks · 11-08-2010, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by moeloubani

Does Iran have the right to protect itself from Israel by having the same weapons as they do (ie undeclared nuclear weapons)?

Or just the countries that you see fit? Must suck to be fighting for evil!

Just the countries I see fit

papill0n · 11-08-2010, 05:57 PM

12clicks you have perfected the art of douchebaggery

bravo kid, bravo

12clicks · 11-08-2010, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by papill0n

12clicks you have perfected the art of douchebaggery

bravo kid, bravo

Ah yes, circle the wagons, losers.

TheDoc · 11-08-2010, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

As I suspected, trash.
Can't find a quote to back up your bullshit yet again.
No wonder after all these years in this business you're still at the bottom of the barrel.

Tell me, does constantly looking for my negative attention make up for your lack of success?
It gotta be something like that.

I asked you a question, I'm not sure what I have to backup... but thanks for proving your hypocrisy related to our Gov.

What's funny is you calling out someone for a lack of success or saying bottom of the barrel on anything. I mean, come on... have you even clicked your own signature in the last three years?

In 12clicks world, sure... but back on earth it's just fun to see what stupid shit you'll say next.

12clicks · 11-08-2010, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

I asked you a question, I'm not sure what I have to backup... but thanks for proving your hypocrisy related to our Gov.

What's funny is you calling out someone for a lack of success or saying bottom of the barrel on anything. I mean, come on... have you even clicked your own signature in the last three years?

In 12clicks world, sure... but back on earth it's just fun to see what stupid shit you'll say next.

Oh, to be so pathetic.

I'm not calling you out for being a bottom runger, I'm laughing at you over it.
The same deluded mentality that thinks you're winning some sort of argument here has kept you on the bottom rung while your contemporaries have all passed you by years ago.

TheDoc · 11-08-2010, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

Oh, to be so pathetic.

I'm not calling you out for being a bottom runger, I'm laughing at you over it.
The same deluded mentality that thinks you're winning some sort of argument here has kept you on the bottom rung while your contemporaries have all passed you by years ago.

Hahaha, son it's just fun watching you argue with all the bottom rungers while flaunting your poser abilities in front of the entire Forum. Bravo, Bravo!

Anyway, I'm out for the night - I'll let you get back to super mega powerful ultra successful rich poser life that cares enough to bicker with those people that you share your tax money with.

SleazyDream · 11-08-2010, 09:56 PM

I can't tell a naked jew from any other white person........

Kiopa_Matt · 11-08-2010, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by moeloubani

What about this?

"Pro-Israeli stance cost Canada UN seat, Harper says"

http://news.therecord.com/News/article/808906

Really classy, Harper. So we lost our seat on the UN Security Council to bloody Portugal? Class act, Harper.

Geez, I wonder if it ever occurred to him there's maybe a legitimate reason there's so much anger towards Israel at the moment. And I'm pretty sure it's not because everyone in the world is secretly a neo-Nazi who wants to burn Jews.

Bloody Israel. Can't we just give them Newfoundland, or something? Well, maybe that's not a great idea, because they'd probably start bulldozing everyone's houses down.

dyna mo · 11-08-2010, 10:53 PM

i didn't realize anti-semitism was so rampant in canada.

good to know.

Kiopa_Matt · 11-08-2010, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

i didn't realize anti-semitism was so rampant in canada.

good to know.

Has absolutely nothing to do with anti-semitism, prejudice, or anything of that nature. It has to do with a nation that is constantly in the world media saying they just want peace. Then they turn around and bulldoze over people's houses, and begin building their own on land that is officially & legally not theirs. They just decided themselves it was their land, but it's not.

It's like China walking into Taiwan, bulldozing over a bunch of houses, and start building their own. Then go on world media stating, "Well, we just want peace with the Taiwanese people".

moeloubani · 11-08-2010, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

i didn't realize anti-semitism was so rampant in canada.

good to know.

You'll never find a place that is more friendly to Jews than Canada. Please don't pretend like because we don't want to support a country that has illegal nuclear weapons we are somehow bad people.

dyna mo · 11-08-2010, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by moeloubani

You'll never find a place that is more friendly to Jews than Canada. Please don't pretend like because we don't want to support a country that has illegal nuclear weapons we are somehow bad people.

that's odd. that's exactly what you do here with americans. you're not alone though, so not to worry, there's safety in numbers eh.

moeloubani · 11-08-2010, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

that's odd. that's exactly what you do here with americans. you're not alone though, so not to worry, there's safety in numbers eh.

what are you talking about? we support the US, you guys don't have illegal nukes and you guys let weapons inspectors in and declare nuclear weapons just like you should.

SmokeyTheBear · 11-09-2010, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

No,what I meant is out of work 60 year old script kiddies always make me laugh.

so i came home from my day job even though i am out of work and i can't read even though we are on a forum ? you can't even keep your insults straight you senile has been , wait i take that back , "has been" would mean you actually were something, you are a "never was" .

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moeloubani Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ontario Posts: 4,235	Canadians: Pro-Israel no matter the cost? "Stephen Harper says he'll take a forceful stand against anti-Israel rhetoric no matter the political cost to his government at international organizations such as the United Nations and the Francophonie." So what he is saying is I will stand up for Israel even if it means that the world hates Canada. Do you think if the world is all saying 'Israel you shouldn't do this' that Canada should be one of the only ones saying 'ANYTHING Israel does is OK' at the cost of our once-upon-a-time integrity in the world? Remember to vote, in Stephen Harper's mind Israel >>>> Canada. Article link says: Harper vows fight against anti-semitism. Title of article though is Harper vows to stand up for Israel. Is being against Israel anti-semetic? http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/1..._anti_semitism Last edited by moeloubani; 11-08-2010 at 10:35 AM..

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12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,783	dear anti-semites, the world agreed to protect jews and create the country of israel. What you are suggesting, is to vote against some one who defends the law as voted upon by the countries of the world. what you are, is an anti-semite. by mischaracterizing those who hate jews as "the world" you show your lack of intelligence. __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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tiptop Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Somewhere... Posts: 2,377	It's way better than protecting the Muslim that threatening Canada with their 'peaceful' religion. Jews nor Israeli's never threatened or boomed in the name of the Torah as Muslims do in the name of Koran. __________________ email: tiptopdomains_at_gmail_com

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_Richard_ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Vancouver Posts: 30,984	it's cost us a lot already

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moeloubani Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ontario Posts: 4,235	What about this? "Pro-Israeli stance cost Canada UN seat, Harper says" http://news.therecord.com/News/article/808906

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kostas Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Southern Europe Posts: 616	“The ideology of the anti-Israeli mob tell us all too well that those who threaten the existence of the Jewish people are in the longer term a threat to us all,” Harper said. Very clever boy, Canadian friends. He forgot the 500+ convictions of Israel by the UN for crimes against other people. If you, the Canadians , are a such known criminal then yes, you should worry.

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_Richard_ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Vancouver Posts: 30,984	it's not that messed up, even tho the OP has definitely got some dogs in the race the UN seat example is a good point on how our government is handling it's support of Israel

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Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	Stephen Harper does not speak for canada.

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Dcat Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mexico Posts: 1,607	The grip Israel has on the Western governments never ceases to amaze me.

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_Richard_ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Vancouver Posts: 30,984	http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/09/wo...pdate&emc=aua1 funny article, considering the US lack of backing for our bid

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dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 63,943	yeah, more nukes is the answer. nukes for everyone! yay nukes.

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papill0n Unregistered Abuser Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 15,547	12clicks you have perfected the art of douchebaggery bravo kid, bravo

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dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 63,943	i didn't realize anti-semitism was so rampant in canada. good to know.