Second Amendment Quotes - Food For Thought

[Redrob]

A friend emailed these quotes to me and I thought I'd share:

"Jesus said, 'But now whoever has a purse or a bag, must take it and whoever does not have a sword must sell his cloak and buy one.'" - Luke 22:36

"A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government." - George Washington

"The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." and "The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." - Thomas Jefferson

?Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.? -Benjamin Franklin

"But if someone has a gun and is trying to kill you ... it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

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[Va2k]

hahah So true on so many levels!

[Vendzilla]

[Vendzilla]

"Among the many misdeeds of British rule in India, history will look
upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest."

Mahatma Mohandas K. Gandhi

[rogueteens]

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Strange choice of image isn't it? a bit of a fail that.

[chazzKorvex]

"But if someone has a gun and is trying to kill you ... it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama

2nd time my little brother was in Iraq he had to call in to shoot back - Thats fukin bullshit - first time over he plowed shit lol FUCK - Im not supposed to be writing - This place is addictive -

sometimes I wish I didnt discover GFY its jsut one more thing to check and write too - other times I feel I should put your banners all over my sites - Love/Hate

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Originally Posted by rogueteens

Strange choice of image isn't it? a bit of a fail that.

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[rogueteens]

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

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i think you missed my point, using an image of a fictional British secret agent. we dont have a written constitution over here, nor do we tolerate guns.

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Originally Posted by rogueteens

i think you missed my point, using an image of a fictional British secret agent. we dont have a written constitution over here, nor do we tolerate guns.

I think you're over thinking...





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[potter]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

I bet all of those magazines would fail if they were ever used. It's so not good to store magazines loaded for long periods of time. The springs go bad, and won't have the compression strength to push the bullets up.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by potter

I bet all of those magazines would fail if they were ever used. It's so not good to store magazines loaded for long periods of time. The springs go bad, and won't have the compression strength to push the bullets up.

People that own that many guns shoot them, don't think it's an issue

[Tam]

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Is this trying to tell us that we even have to protect our "crazy"? lmao That is the only thing in this pic I can see worth protecting..... crazy!! lmao

[tiger]

“Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.” -Benjamin Franklin

That is the best one and applies to so many other things going on right now. I wish more people would take notice of this.

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Originally Posted by tiger

?Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.? -Benjamin Franklin

That is the best one and applies to so many other things going on right now. I wish more people would take notice of this.

Post that again when/if the Blackwater/Xe and Tea Party nutters decide to implement their "2nd Amendment solution", after they are denied at the ballot box.

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[SallyRand]

Originally Posted by rogueteens

i think you missed my point, using an image of a fictional British secret agent. we dont have a written constitution over here, nor do we tolerate guns.

And you do a very good job of it as these articles clearly demonstrate!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...89-decade.html

"Culture of violence: Gun crime goes up by 89% in a decade

By James Slack
Last updated at 8:42 AM on 27th October 2009

Gun crime has increased five-fold in some parts of the UK

Gun crime has almost doubled since Labour came to power as a culture of extreme gang violence has taken hold.

The latest Government figures show that the total number of firearm offences in England and Wales has increased from 5,209 in 1998/99 to 9,865 last year - a rise of 89 per cent.

In some parts of the country, the number of offences has increased more than five-fold.

In eighteen police areas, gun crime at least doubled.

The statistic will fuel fears that the police are struggling to contain gang-related violence, in which the carrying of a firearm has become increasingly common place."

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle2328368.ece

"From The Sunday Times
August 26, 2007
Ministers 'covered up' gun crime
David Leppard

THE government was accused yesterday of covering up the full extent of the gun crime epidemic sweeping Britain, after official figures showed that gun-related killings and injuries had risen more than fourfold since 1998.

The Home Office figures - which exclude crimes involving air weapons - show the number of deaths and injuries caused by gun attacks in England and Wales soared from 864 in 1998-99 to 3,821 in 2005-06. That means that more than 10 people are injured or killed in a gun attack every day.

This weekend the Tories said the figures challenged claims by Jacqui Smith, the home secretary, that gun crime was falling. David Davis, the shadow home secretary, tells her in a letter today that the ?staggering findings? show her claims that gun crime has fallen are ?inaccurate and misleading?.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...gun-crime.html

"Rural Britain hit by knife and gun crime
Rural Britain is being plagued by an armed crime wave despite Government attempts to clear the streets of weapons.

Tom Whitehead

By Tom Whitehead, Home Affairs Editor 8:00AM GMT 16 Jan 2010

At least one in three police forces has seen an increase in either gun or knife offences in the last year with shire counties the worst hit.

Cumbria saw gun crime virtually double while North Yorkshire witnessed a rise of almost half in offences involving a knife or sharp object, The Daily Telegraph can disclose.

Burglary and robberies also continue to increase in rural corners signalling the economic downturn is still fuelling acquisitive crime...."

And your Bobbies are soooooooooooooooo endearing!

[DWB]

Originally Posted by Redrob

"A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government." - George Washington

"The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." and "The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." - Thomas Jefferson

?Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.? -Benjamin Franklin

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Post that again when/if the Blackwater/Xe and Tea Party nutters decide to implement their "2nd Amendment solution", after they are denied at the ballot box.

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I went to politicsplus.org, JUST a little on the liberal side, ok, way liberal
I doubt it will get to a "2nd Amendment solution" , but remember our forefathers warned that could happen, thats why we have the 2nd amendment I believe.

"What, Sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty.... Whenever Governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise an army upon their ruins." (Rep. Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts, spoken during floor debate over the Second Amendment [ I Annals of Congress at 750 {August 17, 1789}])



I will add that I watched the Sarah Palins Alaska and it was pretty good, next week they go shooting!!!!

[Paul Markham]

During WW2 it was estimated that only 5% of soldiers firing their arms were effective. Even when faced with a life and death situation. There's something in the human psychic that made them not shoot, shoot over the heads or shoot wildly.

Maybe a combination of fear or the sanctity of life stops them from killing their fellow man. It was deduced the most effective soldiers had a pathological streak that came out and made them effective.

Todays modern soldier goes through weeks of intensive training to shoot and shoot with the intention to kill. Special elite forces like SAS, snipers, commandos go through even more intense training. So when faced with the enemy they don't think they kill.

Giving a person a weapon who hasn't got this training or a pathological streak is a waste of time. It's very butch to say you would kill someone in the heat of the moment. Some research will prove it's not so easy to do.

We are a species that was born to run and hide from danger.

[seeandsee]

interesting data paul about ww2

[CaptainHowdy]

We need more revolutionary violence...

[Tom_PM]

Second amendment quotes in modern political times are usually used to incite fear of government in the listener.
Game, set, fact.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

Second amendment quotes in modern political times are usually used to incite fear of government in the listener.
Game, set, fact.

Did you know that Ammo sales go up during Democrat leadership?

[Tom_PM]

I have no doubt that it's important to mention that ammo sales go up when there's a democrat for a president. See how I am?

[BestXXXPorn]

Originally Posted by Redrob

?Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.? -Benjamin Franklin

Which applies to far, far, far, far, far more than just guns. Wake up America, you're pissing away all your rights!

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

I have no doubt that it's important to mention that ammo sales go up when there's a democrat for a president. See how I am?

Both with Clinton and Obama, I saw a shortage in and a rush to buy Ammo when they took office.
Most do so because they believe that their gun rights will be taken away.

Sad the think people think a democrat president will take away their constitutional rights.

When if fact it's just the way the liberal candidates get the party fired up, they can't change it, same with the GOP and abortion

[Slutboat]

You fucking suckers.. Faggoty little sissy PUPPETS going out and buying your chickenshit weapons and dreaming about the day when you get a chance to use lethal force on someone and snuff the life out of a real live human being...

You "Second Amendment" retards are a fucking JOKE - most of you would piss in your underpants if an intruder came in the night, you would hand over your weapon so fast and plead for your life that they don't shoot you with your own gun.

You watch too much TV and FOX News you scared little girls - your fantasies of protecting yourself with your bitchin firearms are as lame as the shows you watch, your backward redneck inbred pea brains can't grasp the concept that FAR MORE PEOPLE GET THIER GUNS TAKEN FROM THEM and USED ON THEM than actually used in defense.

Your children murder each other and their classmates with these homicidal weapons - you crazed fucks think that teaching gun use to kids is cool? Fucking clowns.

The rest of the world laughs at you chickenshit maniacs - you give the rest of us a bad name. Learn hand to hand combat if you are so petrified of "whats out there" of course you don't want to get off the couch longer than it takes to get a diet Pepsi and some Doritos you fat lazy slobs.

Your absurd cling to what the Founding Fathers said about guns has no bearing on the world of today - who cares if people needed guns back in the days of Washington and Jefferson - it's 2010 you big PUSSY you see any Injuns running around scalping people?

You Right Wing pansy motherfuckers are never going to get a chance to use your pathetic guns against your evil "Big Government" you will die with your locker full of useless steel killing tools - your fantasies of blowing an intruders brains out will never see reality, however its a very real possibility that someone will take those guns and shoot you with them, or that a child will kill other children with them.

You NRA scumbags make me sick, it's time to outlaw guns and start locking you weaklings up.

[Tom_PM]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Both with Clinton and Obama, I saw a shortage in and a rush to buy Ammo when they took office.
Most do so because they believe that their gun rights will be taken away.

Sad the think people think a democrat president will take away their constitutional rights.

When if fact it's just the way the liberal candidates get the party fired up, they can't change it, same with the GOP and abortion

I agree in part of course. The part that says people THINK a democrat will take away their rights. But surely you must know as an intelligent and politically savvy person that republicans play on that fear to the hilt. To. The. Hilt. lol. And it works! Look at those sales numbers as proof of what people think.

[BestXXXPorn]

Originally Posted by Slutboat

You fucking suckers.. Faggoty little sissy PUPPETS going out and buying your chickenshit weapons and dreaming about the day when you get a chance to use lethal force on someone and snuff the life out of a real live human being...

You "Second Amendment" retards are a fucking JOKE - most of you would piss in your underpants if an intruder came in the night, you would hand over your weapon so fast and plead for your life that they don't shoot you with your own gun.

You watch too much TV and FOX News you scared little girls - your fantasies of protecting yourself with your bitchin firearms are as lame as the shows you watch, your backward redneck inbred pea brains can't grasp the concept that FAR MORE PEOPLE GET THIER GUNS TAKEN FROM THEM and USED ON THEM than actually used in defense.

Your children murder each other and their classmates with these homicidal weapons - you crazed fucks think that teaching gun use to kids is cool? Fucking clowns.

The rest of the world laughs at you chickenshit maniacs - you give the rest of us a bad name. Learn hand to hand combat if you are so petrified of "whats out there" of course you don't want to get off the couch longer than it takes to get a diet Pepsi and some Doritos you fat lazy slobs.

Your absurd cling to what the Founding Fathers said about guns has no bearing on the world of today - who cares if people needed guns back in the days of Washington and Jefferson - it's 2010 you big PUSSY you see any Injuns running around scalping people?

You Right Wing pansy motherfuckers are never going to get a chance to use your pathetic guns against your evil "Big Government" you will die with your locker full of useless steel killing tools - your fantasies of blowing an intruders brains out will never see reality, however its a very real possibility that someone will take those guns and shoot you with them, or that a child will kill other children with them.

You NRA scumbags make me sick, it's time to outlaw guns and start locking you weaklings up.

Yet more proof that you are a complete idiot...

[Slutboat]

Originally Posted by BestXXXPorn

Yet more proof that you are a complete idiot...

Typical response from a brainless chickenshit when confronted with an opposing viewpoint. Playground name calling but no logical rebuttal.

[MK Ultra]

Originally Posted by Slutboat

You fucking suckers.. Faggoty little sissy PUPPETS going out and buying your chickenshit weapons and dreaming about the day when you get a chance to use lethal force on someone and snuff the life out of a real live human being...

You "Second Amendment" retards are a fucking JOKE - most of you would piss in your underpants if an intruder came in the night, you would hand over your weapon so fast and plead for your life that they don't shoot you with your own gun.

You watch too much TV and FOX News you scared little girls - your fantasies of protecting yourself with your bitchin firearms are as lame as the shows you watch, your backward redneck inbred pea brains can't grasp the concept that FAR MORE PEOPLE GET THIER GUNS TAKEN FROM THEM and USED ON THEM than actually used in defense.

Your children murder each other and their classmates with these homicidal weapons - you crazed fucks think that teaching gun use to kids is cool? Fucking clowns.


The rest of the world laughs at you chickenshit maniacs - you give the rest of us a bad name. Learn hand to hand combat if you are so petrified of "whats out there" of course you don't want to get off the couch longer than it takes to get a diet Pepsi and some Doritos you fat lazy slobs.

Your absurd cling to what the Founding Fathers said about guns has no bearing on the world of today - who cares if people needed guns back in the days of Washington and Jefferson - it's 2010 you big PUSSY you see any Injuns running around scalping people?

You Right Wing pansy motherfuckers are never going to get a chance to use your pathetic guns against your evil "Big Government" you will die with your locker full of useless steel killing tools - your fantasies of blowing an intruders brains out will never see reality, however its a very real possibility that someone will take those guns and shoot you with them, or that a child will kill other children with them.

You NRA scumbags make me sick, it's time to outlaw guns and start locking you weaklings up.

Dude...you ever think about maybe getting a little more fiber in your diet?

[Redrob]

Originally Posted by Slutboat

You Right Wing pansy motherfuckers are never going to get a chance to use your pathetic guns against your evil "Big Government" you will die with your locker full of useless steel killing tools - your fantasies of blowing an intruders brains out will never see reality, however its a very real possibility that someone will take those guns and shoot you with them, or that a child will kill other children with them.

You NRA scumbags make me sick, it's time to outlaw guns and start locking you weaklings up.

You obviously haven't had sufficient training and don't know how to properly handle weapons. If you have had sufficient training, you would see the conflict in your logic....knowing how to properly store and use weapons vs. never using and improper storage.

Knowing how to handle weapons and their proper storage and use is a big part of our Second Amendment Rights. There will always be careless people who will pay a price for being careless; but, that does not mean that the majority of gun owners are reckless or careless. That is a gross mischaracterization and illogical.

The fact that you suggest we "outlaw guns" and "lockup you weaklings" provides sufficient confirmation and justification for gun ownership in my view; thereby, providing a logical argument for gun ownership.

[SallyRand]

Originally Posted by Slutboat

You fucking suckers.. Faggoty little sissy PUPPETS going out and buying your chickenshit weapons and dreaming about the day when you get a chance to use lethal force on someone and snuff the life out of a real live human being...

You "Second Amendment" retards are a fucking JOKE - most of you would piss in your underpants if an intruder came in the night, you would hand over your weapon so fast and plead for your life that they don't shoot you with your own gun.

You watch too much TV and FOX News you scared little girls - your fantasies of protecting yourself with your bitchin firearms are as lame as the shows you watch, your backward redneck inbred pea brains can't grasp the concept that FAR MORE PEOPLE GET THIER GUNS TAKEN FROM THEM and USED ON THEM than actually used in defense.

Your children murder each other and their classmates with these homicidal weapons - you crazed fucks think that teaching gun use to kids is cool? Fucking clowns.

The rest of the world laughs at you chickenshit maniacs - you give the rest of us a bad name. Learn hand to hand combat if you are so petrified of "whats out there" of course you don't want to get off the couch longer than it takes to get a diet Pepsi and some Doritos you fat lazy slobs.

Your absurd cling to what the Founding Fathers said about guns has no bearing on the world of today - who cares if people needed guns back in the days of Washington and Jefferson - it's 2010 you big PUSSY you see any Injuns running around scalping people?

You Right Wing pansy motherfuckers are never going to get a chance to use your pathetic guns against your evil "Big Government" you will die with your locker full of useless steel killing tools - your fantasies of blowing an intruders brains out will never see reality, however its a very real possibility that someone will take those guns and shoot you with them, or that a child will kill other children with them.

You NRA scumbags make me sick, it's time to outlaw guns and start locking you weaklings up.

"it's 2010 you big PUSSY you see any Injuns running around scalping people"

Injuns?

Tatanka Iyotanka* and my Totem Animal:




That's Chief Sitting Bull to you, Slutboat, you racist!

[Slutboat]

Originally Posted by MK Ultra

Dude...you ever think about maybe getting a little more fiber in your diet?

You know anyone who has been shot and wounded in a US city? I do.
You know anyone who has been crippled from a handgun in a US city? I do.
You know anyone who has been killed from a handgun in a US city? I do.
You know anyone who has committed suicide with a handgun? I know a few. (most recently Earl Miller's 18 year old son)

Fuck Guns

[Slutboat]

Originally Posted by SallyRand

That's Chief Sitting Bull to you, Slutboat, you racist!

I don't mind being called names from crazy people Sally - especially since I used the word in a context of something people would have an irrational fear of. Also I have many close friends who are Native American and I have travelled to every Reservation in the western US and Midwest and lived with Native Americans for over a year while filming (mainstream of course) I did sweats, lived in teepees, and ate peyote with them and learned their songs.

I was there and protested for the release of Leonard Peltier (more senseless gun violence). Floyd "Red Crow" Westerman was a good friend of mine RIP.

You sure don't know who the fuck you are talking to when you call me a racist.

[cykoe6]

The right to self defense is so fundamental that without out it no person can seriously claim to be free. If you are are dependent on the government to defend you life and home then you are no better than a slave. It is the most important right there is. I would give up all the others first.

[rogueteens]

Originally Posted by SallyRand

And you do a very good job of it as these articles clearly demonstrate!

blah blah ....

Firearm homicide rate per 100,000 pop. ...
England & Wales - 0.12
United States - 2.97

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_vio...des_by_country

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

I agree in part of course. The part that says people THINK a democrat will take away their rights. But surely you must know as an intelligent and politically savvy person that republicans play on that fear to the hilt. To. The. Hilt. lol. And it works! Look at those sales numbers as proof of what people think.

I just get pissy when I hear things like we need more gun laws, we have plenty
Does anyone believe that criminals will follow these gun laws?
People forget that the gun laws they want apply to criminal behavior, criminals love gun laws, they don't apply to them.


I loved it when the liberal assholes on this forum put down Charlton Heston because of his role with the NRA. I guess they didn't know he also marched with MLK?

But if people don't want guns, no one is making them buy one, in turn, they should shut up about those that do have them. I raised my daughter to be responsible about them and just gave her a S&W 40. I know if someone screws with her , she can handle things herself. I should get her a nice shovel too?

[tiger]

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Post that again when/if the Blackwater/Xe and Tea Party nutters decide to implement their "2nd Amendment solution", after they are denied at the ballot box.

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My point was I think this quote applies much better when thinking about all the terrorism fear cards that are being played on people to take away our freedoms in the name of security. I don't see it even being relevant to 2nd amendment issues.

[jigg]

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

I think you're over thinking...



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he can be my bodyguard any day