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Old 01-17-2019, 01:56 AM   #1
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Westminster wins the prize for stupidity.

The wonderful politicians in Westminster have decided that if the EU doesn't give them a better deal, the country will not leave the EU. Something the EU wants.

It'son par with the Protection racket scheme. The one that was dreamed up by morons. If you don't pay, we worn't beat you up.

Will the EU give in to this threat?
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There needs to be another referendum, I'm fairly sure by now that most fellow UK citizens who voted for Brexit will have soured to the idea.
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Those who raised the idea of Brexit Is disappeared from UK politics. Poepl living in north of UK don’t contribute much in UK economy vote for leave compare to people living in London, around London and south or east vote of remain..... PM not listening to the people who contributing mich in UK economy
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they could have saved a massive 20$/person every month if they left the EU...thank god the right wing is so good at math

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Those who raised the idea of Brexit Is disappeared from UK politics. Poepl living in north of UK don’t contribute much in UK economy vote for leave compare to people living in London, around London and south or east vote of remain..... PM not listening to the people who contributing mich in UK economy
that´s the point. the whole brexit was caused by uninformed people who believed in lies and the smart ones have to suffer from this stupid decision.

they should give all this people a piece of the island and buy it back for 2 pounds in a few years from them after they found out that stupidy leads to eat shit.
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There needs to be another referendum, I'm fairly sure by now that most fellow UK citizens who voted for Brexit will have soured to the idea.
So fuck up the negotiations, then get another referendum to deliver the vote you wanted in the first place.
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So fuck up the negotiations, then get another referendum to deliver the vote you wanted in the first place.

I'm pretty sure that's exactly what they have done - May was a remainer from the start...
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20$ saved this month per person...phew!...UK economy saved
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that´s the point. the whole brexit was caused by uninformed people who believed in lies and the smart ones have to suffer from this stupid decision.

they should give all this people a piece of the island and buy it back for 2 pounds in a few years from them after they found out that stupidy leads to eat shit.
We all know your idea of democracy is to only allow the people who will deliver the vote you want should be voting. Luckily democracy doesn't work like that.
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Those who raised the idea of Brexit Is disappeared from UK politics. Poepl living in north of UK don’t contribute much in UK economy vote for leave compare to people living in London, around London and south or east vote of remain..... PM not listening to the people who contributing mich in UK economy
Scotland and N.I. voted to remain. We have to look at why the North is no longer the manufacturing hub it once was, why jobs have left the area, why the South East is expected to pay so much in taxes to support the rest.

Taking No Deal off the table, Labour's tactic and most MPs, ensures getting a bad deal. Why should the EU give a good deal if there's no upside to it? All the disruption on the UK side with a No Deal will be reflected on the other side of the channel.

Huge queues of lorries at Dover and Calais.
Fewer exports to the UK of food produce in Europe.
Less cars, vans, lorries sold in the UK and EU.
Far less money coming into the pot from the UK.
And so on.

So if the UK removes the threat of a No Deal. The UK stays and nothing happens.
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Huge queues of lorries at Dover and Calais.
Fewer exports to the UK of food produce in Europe.
Less cars, vans, lorries sold in the UK and EU.
Far less money coming into the pot from the UK.
And so on.

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dumbass paul does not understand that this goes for UK products going to the EU as well...tiny brain can not process that it is a double edge sword
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that´s the point. the whole brexit was caused by uninformed people who believed in lies and the smart ones have to suffer from this stupid decision.

they should give all this people a piece of the island and buy it back for 2 pounds in a few years from them after they found out that stupidy leads to eat shit.
Why do you think everyone voted the way they did the other day? Could it have been pressure from their constituents?

Large populations aren't immune from ignorance.. Instead it increases the percentages is my bet. Your backwoods country boy doesn't give two shits about politics. Inner city ignorant will, being more exposed..
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We all know your idea of democracy is to only allow the people who will deliver the vote you want should be voting. Luckily democracy doesn't work like that.
and we all know YOUR idea of democracy as you like the missinformed as much as trump does.

tell me wich one of the slogans they had did not show up as a lie in the end ?

the whole brexit campaign was made on money. and in the meantime even the dumbest know this this will COST and not SAVE money.

that you got tricked by putin is also not a secret anymore.
it´s a well known fact that this campaign was influenced by russians same as the US elections.
this is democracy for people like YOU not for people who have a bit brain.
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Large populations aren't immune from ignorance.. Instead it increases the percentages is my bet. Your backwoods country boy doesn't give two shits about politics. Inner city ignorant will, being more exposed..
let´s keep this statement for the day when it comes to a second vote. hopefully you will just admit that you have no clue and not find another excuse when it goes in the opposite direction.
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I'm pretty sure that's exactly what they have done - May was a remainer from the start...
The Remain side will win in the end. Democracy will lose.
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and we all know YOUR idea of democracy as you like the missinformed as much as trump does.

tell me wich one of the slogans they had did not show up as a lie in the end ?

the whole brexit campaign was made on money. and in the meantime even the dumbest know this this will COST and not SAVE money.

that you got tricked by putin is also not a secret anymore.
it´s a well known fact that this campaign was influenced by russians same as the US elections.
this is democracy for people like YOU not for people who have a bit brain.
What part of the democratic process don't you understand?

Both sides lied.

Brexit will cost the UK money initially. Long term it will be better for the UK.

That doesn't matter, freedom is worth paying for. You refuse to address this. Do you think Germany will rule the EU with a powerful politician like Merkel in the front. Do you think the rules Brussels passes will always be for your good, do you think your living standards will improve, what is it that makes the EU so great?

Stefan can offer us a reply on why the EU is so great.
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That doesn't matter, freedom is worth paying for.
Hope you don't mind Scotland leaving the UK then

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What part of the democratic process don't you understand?

Both sides lied.

Brexit will cost the UK money initially. Long term it will be better for the UK.

That doesn't matter, freedom is worth paying for. You refuse to address this. Do you think Germany will rule the EU with a powerful politician like Merkel in the front. Do you think the rules Brussels passes will always be for your good, do you think your living standards will improve, what is it that makes the EU so great?

Stefan can offer us a reply on why the EU is so great.
PS: Please list the things the EU does that affect you personally in a negative way.
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So is Putin's Russia the only one that has it right on earth Paul?

You want Americans to bend to Putin & Trumps will.

You want NATO disbanded

You want the EU disbanded.

What's in it for you Paul, in Czechoslovakia?

You can't afford to live in the U. K.

You'll never live in America.
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What part of the democratic process don't you understand?

Both sides lied.

Brexit will cost the UK money initially. Long term it will be better for the UK.

That doesn't matter, freedom is worth paying for. You refuse to address this. Do you think Germany will rule the EU with a powerful politician like Merkel in the front. Do you think the rules Brussels passes will always be for your good, do you think your living standards will improve, what is it that makes the EU so great?

Stefan can offer us a reply on why the EU is so great.
at least i understand THIS

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The Remain side will win in the end. Democracy will lose.

if the remain site really wins at the end it is because of a new vote.
if you think that democracy have lost in such a case then you shouldn't insult that word by putting it in your mouth.
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pauls hypothesis: the UK, alone, will get better deals but no EU country can actually make a deal with the UK alone because the EU is a union and you deal with them all...alarming error in logic right there...so in real life it gets to negotiate with the same union it left but with greatly reduced leverage...how does that improve things?

they save 20$/month per person BUT they stunt their GDP growth 35% lower than fuck hole serbia...how was that a good deal?

this is going to be another one of those emperors invisible clothes things...magic beans got sold tho
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Awesome article - read it

The Malign Incompetence of the British Ruling Class
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Hope you don't mind Scotland leaving the UK then

Only too happy for them to leave the UK. Why should they be kept in against the will of the people?
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PS: Please list the things the EU does that affect you personally in a negative way.
You refuse to address this. Do you think Germany will rule the EU with a powerful politician like Merkel in the front. Do you think the rules Brussels passes will always be for your good, do you think your living standards will improve, what is it that makes the EU so great?

Stefan can offer us a reply on why the EU is so great.

Answering with a question only shows you have no reply.

One of the things that directly effects me. Freedom of movement has allowed countries like Germany and the UK to poach people from doctors to van drivers. Making it harder here.

Your turn.
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So is Putin's Russia the only one that has it right on earth Paul?

You want Americans to bend to Putin & Trumps will.

You want NATO disbanded

You want the EU disbanded.

What's in it for you Paul, in Czechoslovakia?

You can't afford to live in the U. K.

You'll never live in America.
Why do you lie?
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if the remain site really wins at the end it is because of a new vote.
if you think that democracy have lost in such a case then you shouldn't insult that word by putting it in your mouth.
You refuse to address this. Do you think Germany will rule the EU with a powerful politician like Merkel in the front. Do you think the rules Brussels passes will always be for your good, do you think your living standards will improve, what is it that makes the EU so great?

Stefan can offer us a reply on why the EU is so great.

I think you and Stefan missed this or don't have an answer.
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What part of the democratic process don't you understand?

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FFS Paul you talk as if the referendum result was a huge landslide win for leave.

You would think the vote was 90 / 10, or 70 / 30 even.

This fact is that the vote was very close, and like Trump would have been very different without the lies and external interference.

49% of voters wanted to remain in the EU, and all the ardent Brexiteers ( like you ), are terrified of another referendum because you know the electorate is considerably better informed now than it was in 2016.

I would not squeal about democracy too much if I was you Paul - you might be getting another dose of it very soon.

Tell us Paul - how did you cast your vote in the last referendum ?

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Except the rulers have played a great game. They refuse to say what they do want or come up with terms the EU turns down. They have made sure the arguing continues with Parliament, both houses, and makes it almost impossible to cobble together any sort of deal. Even now they refuse to tell May what is acceptable.

The catastrophe was giving any of them a say. Because when May came back with the only acceptable deal to either side, UK and EU. They rejected it in huge numbers, even though they were the reason she got such a bad deal.

Now most want No Deal off the table without saying what deal is acceptable.
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You refuse to address this. Do you think Germany will rule the EU with a powerful politician like Merkel in the front. Do you think the rules Brussels passes will always be for your good, do you think your living standards will improve, what is it that makes the EU so great?

Stefan can offer us a reply on why the EU is so great.

I think you and Stefan missed this or don't have an answer.
go and educate yourself, moron.

the EU is not a dictatorship - and at least one that would be ruled by UK.
that´s why you are pissed.

everything that is decided there have a majority of votes and many of those votes have been against german interests.

but looks as we can handle democracy easier as you can and even accept things that does not match with the german point of view.

btw. you did answer stefans question with the same question back.

don´t you have arguments or did you not find some in your fake news sources ?

it´s time for some arguments markham - your stupid trolling gets boring.
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You refuse to address this. Do you think Germany will rule the EU with a powerful politician like Merkel in the front. Do you think the rules Brussels passes will always be for your good, do you think your living standards will improve, what is it that makes the EU so great?

Stefan can offer us a reply on why the EU is so great.

I think you and Stefan missed this or don't have an answer.
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/...blic-1.3595785

Appearing before MPs last month, Association of British Insurers director general Huw Evans said it could be “illegal” to pay pensions to many retired British expats if the UK crashes out of the EU without a deal.“That is a perfectly plausible risk in the future if no agreement is reached in some countries of the EU,” he said.

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Except the rulers have played a great game. They refuse to say what they do want or come up with terms the EU turns down. They have made sure the arguing continues with Parliament, both houses, and makes it almost impossible to cobble together any sort of deal. Even now they refuse to tell May what is acceptable.

The catastrophe was giving any of them a say. Because when May came back with the only acceptable deal to either side, UK and EU. They rejected it in huge numbers, even though they were the reason she got such a bad deal.

Now most want No Deal off the table without saying what deal is acceptable.
You are a fucking idiot!
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btw. you did answer stefans question with the same question back.
I asked him SIX questions in a post.

His reply was to ask me a question and not answer even one of my questions.

He is a fucking idiot
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Appearing before MPs last month, Association of British Insurers director general Huw Evans said it could be “illegal” to pay pensions to many retired British expats if the UK crashes out of the EU without a deal.“That is a perfectly plausible risk in the future if no agreement is reached in some countries of the EU,” he said.

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No soup for you.
paul don´t need pensions - he made a fortune with porn in the good old days and can survive from that another 100 years.
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paul don´t need pensions - he made a fortune with porn in the good old days and can survive from that another 100 years.


He's stuck in Czechoslovakia. He can't afford to move back to the UK let alone live there let alone support a family there. This is why he hates all Western countries so much because he can't afford to live in any of them.
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Old 01-18-2019, 06:28 AM   #37
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My problem with the EU is what it is and where it's heading.

It's a great idea on paper, all those nations trading and living under one umbrella. The problem is the one umbrella is badly set up, badly run, undemocratic and perpetuates rules to justify it's existence in an endless stream of bureaucratic paper churning. https://www.google.com/search?ei=i8p...10.YXNiaBda6dE

It makes no difference if some were generated by British bureaucrats, they're still bureaucrats who think like the rest. But Thommy doesn't see the obvious.

My fear is what it's set it's course on. A United States of Europe. Where one central government rules, with no checks and balances. Able to pass laws of some Utopian Dream state, but unable to tackle or even get the big questions right. There's no second house in the EU parliament, no checks and balances.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/mat...b_9514608.html

This article tries to support the EU as democratic yet fails. https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top...nion-1-5436421

It takes too much time criticising the UK and not enough justifying the top jobs.

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The most powerful EU figure by far, is the President of the EU Commission (the EU’s Civil Service), who is nominated by the European Council. The Council votes, by qualified majority, for a nominee for the post of President, taking account of the latest European elections. Their proposal is then put before the EU parliament which must approve or veto the appointment as well as the nominee’s team. Why so powerful? Because the European Commission is the sole initiator of legislation. All the European Council can do is give the Commission a helpful nudge twice per year. The current President of the EU Commission is Jean-Claude Juncker.
Remember it's a work in progress and not the finished job.

I could go on but this is another reason it effects my life.
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My problem with the EU is what it is and where it's heading.
That's your problem with every country but Russia.

You LOVE Russia.

You NEVER say a bad word about Russia.

You hate ALL Democracies and free Western countries ALL of them. You are a fucking idiot

Paul focuses 100% 24/7 on HATING America, Canada & the EU. Fucking idiot
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has anybody actually ever clicked on any of pauls links? shit I know I havent
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go and educate yourself, moron.

the EU is not a dictatorship - and at least one that would be ruled by UK.
that´s why you are pissed.

everything that is decided there have a majority of votes and many of those votes have been against german interests.

but looks as we can handle democracy easier as you can and even accept things that does not match with the german point of view.

btw. you did answer stefans question with the same question back.

don´t you have arguments or did you not find some in your fake news sources ?

it´s time for some arguments markham - your stupid trolling gets boring.
Don't quote me and then lie about what I said. It makes you look stupid.

I've now given reasons I don't like the EU so over to you to reply with reasons for the EU.
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Appearing before MPs last month, Association of British Insurers director general Huw Evans said it could be “illegal” to pay pensions to many retired British expats if the UK crashes out of the EU without a deal.“That is a perfectly plausible risk in the future if no agreement is reached in some countries of the EU,” he said.

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No soup for you.
My Mother along with 100,000 of other ex pat retirees got their pensions paid while living in a non EU country. Even my Czech pension is calculated on my earnings in Czech.
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You refuse to address this. Do you think Germany will rule the EU with a powerful politician like Merkel in the front. Do you think the rules Brussels passes will always be for your good, do you think your living standards will improve, what is it that makes the EU so great?

Stefan can offer us a reply on why the EU is so great.

Answering with a question only shows you have no reply.

One of the things that directly effects me. Freedom of movement has allowed countries like Germany and the UK to poach people from doctors to van drivers. Making it harder here.

Your turn.
I have written many times about the pros and cons that I see in the EU and that the benefits by far outweigh the negatives.

but the one dodging questions is you - where does it affect you negatively? As far as i know you are neither a doctor nor a van driver. I don't see how your life becomes harder because a Czech van driver works in the UK - and there were enough doctors here to keep you alive.
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Paul Markham loves Russia

He never says a bad word about Russia or Vladimir.

Paul talks shit about the UK, EU & America all day EVERY day.

Paul Markham never says a bad word about Vladimir or Russia.

Why is it that Paul Markham focuses his hate 24/7 on America, Canada & the EU?

Why does Paul Markham live Russia so much? Because he is a fucking idiot
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My Mother along with 100,000 of other ex pat retirees got their pensions paid while living in a non EU country. Even my Czech pension is calculated on my earnings in Czech.
You are a fucking idiot
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Don't quote me and then lie about what I said. It makes you look stupid.

I've now given reasons I don't like the EU so over to you to reply with reasons for the EU.
You are a fucking idiot
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He's stuck in Czechoslovakia. He can't afford to move back to the UK let alone live there let alone support a family there. This is why he hates all Western countries so much because he can't afford to live in any of them.
by the love of god - stop calling it czechoslovakia, that doesnt exist anymore since 1993

and besides that - it's pretty cool here, you can keep dissing Paul but leave the country alone
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Why does Paul Markham hate the UK & EU so much?
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PS: Paul Markham complaining about other people leaving their home country for economic gains is - as usual - the most hilarious hypocrisy ever.
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by the love of god - stop calling it czechoslovakia, that doesnt exist anymore since 1993

and besides that - it's pretty cool here, you can keep dissing Paul but leave the country alone
I've heard that Czechoslovakia is beautiful. There is beautiful architecture in Czechoslovakia and Czechoslovakian men are gorgeous. Paul never says a bad word about Czechoslovakia or Russia but constantly trashes the UK, EU, Canada & America.
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I have written many times about the pros and cons that I see in the EU and that the benefits by far outweigh the negatives.

but the one dodging questions is you - where does it affect you negatively? As far as i know you are neither a doctor nor a van driver. I don't see how your life becomes harder because a Czech van driver works in the UK - and there were enough doctors here to keep you alive.
My wife works for a company that has to recruit drivers, yes there are enough doctors here to keep me alive. But that's not my point.

As for many times you've posted the pros of the EU, it should be easy for you to paste the URLs here then. Or give us a quick cliff notes. That is if you have them.
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