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Old 04-18-2019, 04:31 PM   #1
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Open-Source community in Industry

I was just wondering why there is no CMS, php libraries ( on packagist<dot>org), js libraries npmjs<dot>com that is community-maintained?

or maybe there are it is just im not aware of?

all i can see in the landscape is either:

- paid CMS / Software (ElevatedX, NATS, mechbunny, adent.io)
- "scripts" that was hacked together to perform certain functions (SmartCJ and the like)
- wordpress themes/plugins

is there anything that holds back the programmers in industry from publishing the libraries/modules in github, so someone-else can re-use it vs having to choose over these pre-built CMSes?
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Old 04-18-2019, 04:35 PM   #2
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This is not a unified community. Most failed and are taking their frustrations out on politics.
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Old 04-18-2019, 04:41 PM   #3
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Old 04-18-2019, 11:31 PM   #4
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there is no money in porn.
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Old 04-19-2019, 04:31 PM   #5
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I was just wondering why there is no CMS, php libraries ( on packagist<dot>org), js libraries npmjs<dot>com that is community-maintained?

or maybe there are it is just im not aware of?

all i can see in the landscape is either:

- paid CMS / Software (ElevatedX, NATS, mechbunny, adent.io)
- "scripts" that was hacked together to perform certain functions (SmartCJ and the like)
- wordpress themes/plugins

is there anything that holds back the programmers in industry from publishing the libraries/modules in github, so someone-else can re-use it vs having to choose over these pre-built CMSes?
Great idea
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Old 04-19-2019, 05:24 PM   #6
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Great idea
I agree. Now post all the free code you wrote for us.

Oh wait, you don't have any.


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Old 04-22-2019, 05:13 PM   #7
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Keeping an open-source project viable long-term is really difficult. Most projects die once the first group of maintainers stop contributing.

By marketing solely to adult, you would cut 90%+ of your potential income sources. Most people, companies, banks and governments discriminate anyone in adult directly or indirectly.

A lot of open-source projects are used in adult and get contributions from adult devs. None are targeting solely adult though.
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Old 04-22-2019, 05:17 PM   #8
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Almost any tool that can be used for adult can be used for mainstream so why would you limit a product by calling it an "adult" product.

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Old 04-22-2019, 05:28 PM   #9
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there is no money in porn.
There is, but it takes too much work nowadays.
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Old 04-22-2019, 08:07 PM   #10
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Because people in this industry are cheap and become the worst fucking customers ever. They pay nothing but expect top tier support.

Open source is highly profitable and sustainable if done right.
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Old 04-22-2019, 11:36 PM   #11
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Programmers are in high demand, and need money in order to...live. Money can really only be made on open-source by offering having people pay for support, however there's only a handful of companies that are big and would do that in adult. Most of you are just one-man-shows running a few sites and making a living off that. You could of course offer custom development services as well - however since it's open source and there are other people contributing, you now have competition for customizations to your own product/project because it's not as advantageous for the end-user to hire the original vendor.

The space is simply too small to generate any reasonable income off an open-source project. I would stand to make more by creating an open-source shopping cart which has a larger market.
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Old 04-23-2019, 12:37 AM   #12
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I do freeware open source software. You can find it here: https://profiles.wordpress.org/cyber...ontent-plugins
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Old 04-23-2019, 10:04 AM   #13
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thank you guys for the great and honest feedbacks.

one thing that confuses me is, almost every response that was made in here is it is all relating to its profitability.
which doesn't aligns with the very definition of "open-source", which in my assumption, im actually referring to FOSS/FSF definitions.
on which the primary concerns are:

1. The freedom to run the program as you wish, for any purpose (freedom 0).
2. The freedom to study how the program works, and change it so it does your computing as you wish (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a precondition for this.
3. The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help others (freedom 2).
4. The freedom to distribute copies of your modified versions to others (freedom 3). By doing this you can give the whole community a chance to benefit from your changes. Access to the source code is a precondition for this.

some of the response even said they are broke or similar... which is sad to hear btw

I was expecting technical people in adult industry are a bit well-off (at least compared to mainstream programmers )
which means they have a bit more time to play around with toy projects and exchange code samples with other developers just for fun

which looks like apparently is not the case...
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Old 04-23-2019, 11:04 AM   #14
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thank you guys for the great and honest feedbacks.

one thing that confuses me is, almost every response that was made in here is it is all relating to its profitability.
which doesn't aligns with the very definition of "open-source", which in my assumption, im actually referring to FOSS/FSF definitions.
on which the primary concerns are:

1. The freedom to run the program as you wish, for any purpose (freedom 0).
2. The freedom to study how the program works, and change it so it does your computing as you wish (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a precondition for this.
3. The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help others (freedom 2).
4. The freedom to distribute copies of your modified versions to others (freedom 3). By doing this you can give the whole community a chance to benefit from your changes. Access to the source code is a precondition for this.

some of the response even said they are broke or similar... which is sad to hear btw

I was expecting technical people in adult industry are a bit well-off (at least compared to mainstream programmers )
which means they have a bit more time to play around with toy projects and exchange code samples with other developers just for fun

which looks like apparently is not the case...
Open source and FOSS are not the same.

I can open source my code, you can see it, but that doesn't mean you have all those freedoms. The license in which I open source my code with is what grants you that stuff.
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Old 04-23-2019, 11:35 AM   #15
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thank you guys for the great and honest feedbacks.

one thing that confuses me is, almost every response that was made in here is it is all relating to its profitability.
which doesn't aligns with the very definition of "open-source", which in my assumption, im actually referring to FOSS/FSF definitions.
on which the primary concerns are:

1. The freedom to run the program as you wish, for any purpose (freedom 0).
2. The freedom to study how the program works, and change it so it does your computing as you wish (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a precondition for this.
3. The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help others (freedom 2).
4. The freedom to distribute copies of your modified versions to others (freedom 3). By doing this you can give the whole community a chance to benefit from your changes. Access to the source code is a precondition for this.

some of the response even said they are broke or similar... which is sad to hear btw

I was expecting technical people in adult industry are a bit well-off (at least compared to mainstream programmers )
which means they have a bit more time to play around with toy projects and exchange code samples with other developers just for fun

which looks like apparently is not the case...
Incorrect. I can charge mainstream companies far, far more then I could ever get from adult companies. There's little incentive to do things if they don't make money. If I were to release any sort of free software, it would be with the hope it would drive traffic to my site where someone might purchase something. I've even thought about doing this for some small "helper scripts". That being said, to write something like our tube script is potentially thousands of hours and no one is going to do that for free unless they're like retired and bored or something. A collaboration between developers is also unlikely because it's a small market and we're effectively competing against each other. Those who hire someone other then me is a lost customer for me, and those who hire me instead of someone else is a lost customer for that someone.
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Old 04-23-2019, 01:00 PM   #16
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Kittens and k0nr4d - you guys rocks!

these insights definitely corrected my wrong assumptions about the ecosystem (and adult industry in general)
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Old 04-23-2019, 05:30 PM   #17
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Long story short, unless you're k0nr4d, don't bother building anything for adult market.
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