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Old 12-22-2008, 08:25 PM   #351
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"The lowest we can go is $3500"

What a bunch of clowns.
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Old 12-22-2008, 08:43 PM   #352
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Looks like they wanna play ball:

"The lowest we can go is $3500"
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Whats my next move?

Like I said this had the feel of bartering in a chineese sweat shop
Do like chinese people do :
Okay, then I offer 1500 $.
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Old 12-22-2008, 08:43 PM   #353
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Looks like they wanna play ball:

"The lowest we can go is $3500"
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Whats my next move?

Like I said this had the feel of bartering in a chineese sweat shop
you were willing to pay 4 months (2800), a lawyer would be 1k at least - so settling for $3500 and get rid of the idiots and the headache might be the best
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Jesus christ quit being a dip and take the $3500 offer. You've already lucked out that they're not just calling your bluff because this isn't a case of hardship or actually having any actual basis to dispute the amounts.

Contractually, you don't have a leg to stand on and you've already done arguably as well as a lawyer would have, even if not, you've not had to pay any such fees which is your pickup.

If they knew there was a thread that had dozens of disgruntled customers inside it and that it was setting a collections precedent I can assure you they would be happy to retract their settlement offer.

If you settle you need a mutual release before you pay them anything and it needs to be written appropriately. We've already 'navigated' clients through 'Navisite' settlements, payment plans, full releases. Just call or email me after 11:30am est.

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Old 12-22-2008, 10:43 PM   #356
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tell em , ok let me see cause i have to "borrow" money from my brother....

then come backa nd say I can only come up with 2500
LOL.
I think I may actually use this.
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Hey look everyone!
Its James Spiller from Navisite.

Everyone say hello and give him a warm welcome!
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Jesus christ quit being a dip and take the $3500 offer. You've already lucked out that they're not just calling your bluff because this isn't a case of hardship or actually having any actual basis to dispute the amounts.

Contractually, you don't have a leg to stand on and you've already done arguably as well as a lawyer would have, even if not, you've not had to pay any such fees which is your pickup.

If they knew there was a thread that had dozens of disgruntled customers inside it and that it was setting a collections precedent I can assure you they would be happy to retract their settlement offer.

If you settle you need a mutual release before you pay them anything and it needs to be written appropriately. We've already 'navigated' clients through 'Navisite' settlements, payment plans, full releases. Just call or email me after 11:30am est.

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Ill probably hit you up.

Im in Anal Hobbit mode right now.
Im actually thinking I dont want to pay them at all now.

Has anyone actually tried taking this all the way yet?

Maybe we should see what happens.

Ive lost 10k on a Single Blazer Game bet and didnt bat an eye.

This would be much more entertaining even if I lose.
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Old 12-22-2008, 10:54 PM   #359
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I really dont like being pushed around. This is afterall me tucking tail between my legs and letting someone shake me down.

If they had accepted my $2800.00 I would have very truthfully done it for sure. It looks like they are still trying to push me around. $3500.00 wont do it.

NO DEAL....

There is no hardship, there is no problem with paying. I have the money and they dont.
For only this little amount im willing to fight. Fuck them for trying to push me around.

They want to fight me for 9 friggin k then im game.

The fun has yet to begin.
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Old 12-22-2008, 11:01 PM   #360
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Good for you, if you have the money to fight this and take it all the way I would go for it just on principle alone

I love seeing people stand up for what is right

and even if you don't win and have to pay the $9k, you might light a spark under a MUCH bigger fishes ass than yours and they might take it higher than you possibly could have and knock those assfucks in the gut
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Old 12-22-2008, 11:03 PM   #361
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I just sent them this email.

"I just asked my brother if I could borrow some money. If you must $2500.00 is it.. FIRM...

This will end a year long squabble. Its your call.

If not im going to use this money to go to Internext in Vegas this Janary. I need to book that soon so I need an answer from you soon.

Thanks.
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Old 12-22-2008, 11:04 PM   #362
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Im not sure if that was the text book way to handle this.
Lets see what happens. They will probably ignore it.
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I havent been in a Court Trial since 2001.
I may need to dust off my Suit...

Less stress this time around. IF I lose I just write out a check. Last time around I was fighting for my freedom.

Im actually looking forward to it.

People always say these things never make it to trial.

For some reason my attorney said that last time I took something all the way to trial... Why cant we go the distance??

I rode my bike 200 miles in one day last summer just to prove to people that I could ride Seattle to Portland in one day. They said that would never go the distance.

I like the challenge.

If im going to do this im going all the way.
This is it.

Worse come to worse Ill have to sell some of my Blazer Tickets on ebay next year.
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Old 12-22-2008, 11:23 PM   #364
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I lowered my offer.

Its $2500.00

If they want it they can take it now. Simple as that.

I figure that would be the amount to do this in court.
Last time I went to a trial it cost me 3k in fees.
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Old 12-22-2008, 11:34 PM   #365
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I lowered my offer.

Its $2500.00

If they want it they can take it now. Simple as that.

I figure that would be the amount to do this in court.
Last time I went to a trial it cost me 3k in fees.


tell em your brother spent 600 on hookers and you only can get 1900 now
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tell em your brother spent 600 on hookers and you only can get 1900 now
And that they'd better take that offer soon because your brother was talking about getting an eightball for Christmas.
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Ya know, im suprised im the only one with balls around here to make this shit public. (or stupid enough to)

Ive gotten tons of private ICQ's of people in the same situation as me with these guys. From people dealing in the hundreds of thousands $$$ to people dealing with just a several thousand $$. All the same story.

And not one person but me has talked public about it yet and is willing to take this all the way just for the sake of doing it.

If some of you bigger guys are reading this, if I take this to trial and win it really does help your case.

Unlike some of you bigger guys I have a lot less to risk.. Consider that.

Maybe let me borrow your legal tools so I can take this all the way to the end.
To Trial.
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Just put $3500 down on the NBA lock of the week. If you win, then go ahead and pay them. If you lose, then just tell them to fuck off and you'll see them in court.
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Just put $3500 down on the NBA lock of the week. If you win, then go ahead and pay them. If you lose, then just tell them to fuck off and you'll see them in court.
Should I inform them of this bet?

LOL. I remember back in college I had a collection agent after me. He always called. One evening he called me and I was at the Dog Track. While Placing my bet on a Greyhound.

He wanted his money, and said are you at a race track? He could hear the horn music of the derby.

I told him that if I win I would pay him but to not call me right now becasue I was trying to think.

He left me alone after that. Sold me to another collection agent company.

They settled.
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With that said I havent gambled on sports or anything big in almost a year.
Clean and sober.

But this whole Navisite thing is sort of giving me that gamblers rush I used to love.

Uhhhh Ohhh. watch out.
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Lol, yeah tell them you have a severe gambling problem and owe the mafia and you feel like your days are numbered so it might be in their best interest to get whatever they can from you now.
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Lol, yeah tell them you have a severe gambling problem and owe the mafia and you feel like your days are numbered so it might be in their best interest to get whatever they can from you now.

A few years back that wouldnt be too far from the truth!
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UPDATE:

It looks like they are willing to do a 50% settlement.
This is coming from Navisite directly. Not attorneys.

Should I just settle? Or does anyone think that hiring an attorney to battle/settle it with their local attorney that is here threating me is the way to go.

I always like a good fight and I really dont like to be pushed around. If this were me 3 years ago Id tell up to stick it up their ass and fight em.

If I go hire an attorney to fight this, you think Ill be getting anything better than 50% - Attorney fees?

Id be intrested to know.

DEAL OR NO DEAL?
Okay, settlement negotiations were my specialty at one time. If they approached you and said, "we will knock 50% off" make a counter-offer of 70%, settle for 66.6%
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take the $3500 offer.. then continue to bump the thread for ages
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I'm glad you didn't take their offer. After reading everyone's post I think you have a pretty good chance of winning this in court.

I know that over here, in Brazil, it would be illegal for them to be charging you a termination fee for a service contract on auto-renew.

I'd pretty much tell them to go fuck themselves.

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I havent heard anything back on my counter offer.
Perhaps I didnt play by the book in the rules of bartering.

Retracting back on my original offer may have upset them.

Meanwhile the Attorney they hired here locally to come after me is getting ready to make a move. The deadline he gave me to communicate with him was 10 days. Which would be the 26th.
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I havent heard anything back on my counter offer.
Perhaps I didnt play by the book in the rules of bartering.

Retracting back on my original offer may have upset them.

Meanwhile the Attorney they hired here locally to come after me is getting ready to make a move. The deadline he gave me to communicate with him was 10 days. Which would be the 26th.
Ill call him on your behalf , after i am done with him he will owe you money for mental distress and health issues you have now cause of this dramatic events... (diarrea, amxiety)
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Ill call him on your behalf , after i am done with him he will owe you money for mental distress and health issues you have now cause of this dramatic events... (diarrea, amxiety)


I actually should have you call the attorney they have after me here.
Be your typical self and fuck with him.

If you have some kind of device that can record this in mp3 format for us all to hear I would consider it.
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I actually should have you call the attorney they have after me here.
Be your typical self and fuck with him.

If you have some kind of device that can record this in mp3 format for us all to hear I would consider it.
https://www.recordmycalls.com/ I call out and it records the conveersatio
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I also got dirreah from this, I demand compensation also.

I like the counter offer of your counter offer idea. Say you needed to pay for a blown water heater and that was $600 up front, plus $150 for the installer. You only have 1750 now so they need to take it. Who knows what else might come up
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After paying them for 3 years of hosting I'd tell them to gfy with their 1 year auto renew term. Your a gambling man; get a lawyer and tell them to fuck off or you'll counter sue for time and cost. I don't see that contract holding up after that amount of time and when you canceled a mere few weeks late. Add in the fact the company changed hands and your service went down the shitter. Give them the big ole

Just to show them you aren't a complete hard ass and being the time of year it is, send them some Boneprone Christmas cheer in a box of chocolate almond roca
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this is getting rather old
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Yes it is..

And its also a shame that so many companies and indviduals are unable to talk about this becasue they are in active lawsuits with them. Some not just in the tens of thousands but some in the HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS..

This is getting rather old.

But its about fucking time someone spoke out and made this public.
If you dont like it, then move along to the other great threads GFY has to offer.

Maybe I can reconmend the posting contest threads.
Or how about the hot ass or hot babe posts. They can also be entertaining!

Sorry if this has gotten old for you and is no longer stroking your cravings for normal GFY entertainment.

So long as I am breathing and these mother fuckers are trying to shake me down people will know about it.

Get used to it.
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Yes it is..

And its also a shame that so many companies and indviduals are unable to talk about this becasue they are in active lawsuits with them. Some not just in the tens of thousands but some in the HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS..

This is getting rather old.

But its about fucking time someone spoke out and made this public.
If you dont like it, then move along to the other great threads GFY has to offer.

Maybe I can reconmend the posting contest threads.
Or how about the hot ass or hot babe posts. They can also be entertaining!

Sorry if this has gotten old for you and is no longer stroking your cravings for normal GFY entertainment.

So long as I am breathing and these mother fuckers are trying to shake me down people will know about it.

Get used to it.
what was the SLA for the hosting
if the service went to crap when they switched ownership, then you could have a right to claim the termination was not a choice but a breach of the contract on their part.
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Old 12-23-2008, 01:54 PM   #391
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Boneprone, you can't offer 2800 and then offer a lower amount after they counter with 3500.
That's bargaining in bad faith and it will cost you if/when this goes to court.

Their offer is $700 higher than yours. Based on the contract, you owe them $5500 more than their offer....plus any fees or costs they incur trying to collect the debt.
So you're betting $5500 to win $700.

That's a sucker bet.

Not to mention you'd spend more than $700 for even the cheapest sleeping-in-front-of-the-emergency-room attorney.
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Old 12-23-2008, 02:56 PM   #392
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Its ok. I dont want to settle anyhow. If they want to they can chase after my offers before it goes even lower.

Like I said I want to go to trial on this. Ill do a bench Jury and just take it all the way. Win or lose.

Its about character now. Not money.
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here is what you do. tell them you will send them a check. wait a month or 2 phone calls from them, whichever comes later. then wait another 2 weeks or 1 phone call. send the check in for 2200 with "paid in full for hosting balance" in the memo line. if they call you after that, tell them to send you the check back and you will reissue one.

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here is what you do. tell them you will send them a check. wait a month or 2 phone calls from them, whichever comes later. then wait another 2 weeks or 1 phone call. send the check in for 2200 with "paid in full for hosting balance" in the memo line. if they call you after that, tell them to send you the check back and you will reissue one.

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No. I dont want to play games with them.
If I pay them it will be in full for the amount I offered.

If not it will go to the courts if they so desire. No games.
They can take what I offer or they can try to come and take what they think is theirs via the legal system.

Im fine either way.
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Old 12-23-2008, 04:27 PM   #395
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They wont file court papers and start a lawsuit ... They just hope you will give them $$$ just on the shakedown...

If they do, move it to small claims court ( or equivalent ) and you will see them lose.

I really don't understand the hype of settling ...

Give me a sec, I probably have a few dozens of clients I can shake down ... Will be back in a few days once I collect from the suckers
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Yes it is..

And its also a shame that so many companies and indviduals are unable to talk about this becasue they are in active lawsuits with them. Some not just in the tens of thousands but some in the HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS..

This is getting rather old.

But its about fucking time someone spoke out and made this public.
If you dont like it, then move along to the other great threads GFY has to offer.

Maybe I can reconmend the posting contest threads.
Or how about the hot ass or hot babe posts. They can also be entertaining!

Sorry if this has gotten old for you and is no longer stroking your cravings for normal GFY entertainment.

So long as I am breathing and these mother fuckers are trying to shake me down people will know about it.

Get used to it.
Don't worry about him... he's a clown
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Keep me posted Boneprone, you know I'm of course a lot more interested in this than most other people
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Its ok. I dont want to settle anyhow. If they want to they can chase after my offers before it goes even lower.

Like I said I want to go to trial on this. Ill do a bench Jury and just take it all the way. Win or lose.

Its about character now. Not money.

Reminds me of my uncle who said "Take that face!!!", after he cut his nose off.
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