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baddog 09-03-2010 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CunningStunt (Post 17391090)
How many of you "SEO Hosts" use the same DNS for each client / domain unless they ask how to make them private?

Sorry for the delay in responding:

On our dedicated servers, every customer provides their own DNS. On our shared servers with dedicated IPs, every Class C is given a different NS. If we use the same C on multiple servers, we give different nameservers on each subsequent server.

As we are forced by design to limit the number of clients per server there is no possibility of a large number of sites having the same DNS.

bizarrechris 09-20-2010 05:29 AM

great read. Thank you:)

Veggetto 11-23-2010 06:23 PM

Thanks I never thought of using this for adult seo.

frankmcross 11-30-2010 12:15 AM

I really like the info, thanks for the share.

Leshansom 12-03-2010 07:22 AM

Great post, thanks for sharing Baddog

EVERESS 12-23-2010 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 16830502)
seo is dead

LOL :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

EVERESS 12-23-2010 08:53 AM

Do NOT think that you can outrun or outsmart Google in Any Way... or achieve any higher results... by use ANY NET Architecture deployment such as Different C Class IPs, registrars, name servers, IPs virtual hosts or any other spread factors. Matt Cutts has Repeatedly shot those factors down ( I don't know why people keep taking about them ).

People are just always trying to get a leg up on Google - so they Believe in the factors just mentioned. This takes time and resources away from what really matters - building a good site.

But what does that mean??? "Build a Good Site"? It sounds simple enough but many people read Far to into it. This is not the proper post for me to go really deep into it.

What I will say here is building a "Good Site" means building a good site for the End User... not Google and not Googlebot( different iPs c-classes, name servers etc ).

The End User determines what my people call The Popular Vote. When Google determines the Popular Vote for your site on a search term... If the vote is low... All the different links IPs, c-classes, etc. - Won't help you hold a high position one bit.


Look at what matters to the End User... When they find a site they like and they visit it again and again ( increasing its Google Popular Vote ) Do you think they care what IP-C class it is on... or what DNS or registrar it is using?

Kaliphornia 03-03-2011 08:37 PM

Thanks for clarifying this. I never understood before why a network of sites needed IP address ranges. Makes sense tho.

HarryMuff 03-11-2011 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by EVERESS (Post 17795569)
Do NOT think that you can outrun or outsmart Google in Any Way... or achieve any higher results... by use ANY NET Architecture deployment such as Different C Class IPs, registrars, name servers, IPs virtual hosts or any other spread factors. Matt Cutts has Repeatedly shot those factors down ( I don't know why people keep taking about them ).

People are just always trying to get a leg up on Google - so they Believe in the factors just mentioned. This takes time and resources away from what really matters - building a good site.

But what does that mean??? "Build a Good Site"? It sounds simple enough but many people read Far to into it. This is not the proper post for me to go really deep into it.

What I will say here is building a "Good Site" means building a good site for the End User... not Google and not Googlebot( different iPs c-classes, name servers etc ).

The End User determines what my people call The Popular Vote. When Google determines the Popular Vote for your site on a search term... If the vote is low... All the different links IPs, c-classes, etc. - Won't help you hold a high position one bit.


Look at what matters to the End User... When they find a site they like and they visit it again and again ( increasing its Google Popular Vote ) Do you think they care what IP-C class it is on... or what DNS or registrar it is using?

Best advice in this thread, SEO hosting = LOL:boid

HarryMuff 06-17-2011 09:21 AM

Thanks for bringing to our attention the scam that is "SEO hosting", I believe many webmasters would have fallen for the scam without first reading your warning on the subject. Now that we know what to look for -- that's great. Best of luck at KFC where your skills are best suited.

mukeshsnp 07-09-2011 02:56 AM

thanks for writing

srockhard 07-16-2011 08:16 PM

Thanks for all the good advice here!

dc0ded 07-20-2011 03:03 AM

nice read . very educational. learnt a lot . thank you very much.

My Pimp 08-28-2011 02:21 AM

Now I understand. Interesting read.

possiblygreen 10-06-2011 12:20 PM

Thanks for a great read.

Turok24 11-23-2011 01:11 AM

great info, i myself use seo hosting........:thumbsup

pizzaboy7777 02-16-2012 12:29 PM

Good read, thanks.

Bat_Man 04-05-2012 01:07 AM

so much informative post ..

overdose 04-18-2012 04:54 AM

great information there, thanks a lot

Bat_Man 04-22-2012 04:14 AM

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realgirlsgonebad 05-20-2012 05:18 AM

very well written. good read!

whtdrgn 03-29-2013 07:14 PM

Great read, thanks for share

lancehart 06-24-2013 02:47 PM

Thanks for posting! That's really helpful

Throckmorton 06-24-2013 03:42 PM

Yeah, definitely useful information. Thank you

DBmobile 06-25-2013 07:06 AM

very interesting article, thx a lot

InfiniteTech 07-17-2013 08:49 AM

I've been the hosting industry for 10+ years and I've always wondered who started the SEO fallacy. It appears that companies that sell this service seem to be encouraging such activities without any hard proof. Just feeding the bottom line at whatever the cost may be.

p.s. IF SEO hosting did work, and when Google catches you employing such blackhat techniques, rest assured that you will banned from their results forever.

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Originally Posted by Juicy the Manlet (Post 16826327)
If I get this right, Baddog is talking about filtering for duplicate content.
What are the chances that 2 sites hosted at the same place are going to have duplicate content?

And if you have duplicate content - you are going to get filtered either way, no matter if you are on different IPs or not.

In the past (2000-2004), the purpose of having your sites on multiple IPs was for interlinking all your sites and artificially boosting your sites that way. So having sites on multiple IPs prevented Google from identifying that the sites belong to the same person (and penalizing as a result).

But since then, google has so many tools that they use to find out if the sites belong to the same person - that different IPs don't matter anymore. Google would know anyway.

I thought I was going to be the only one here challenging the author's views. Thank god some sane exists!

crakbern 09-05-2013 01:30 PM

Interesting stuff

Stacy Crak 09-10-2013 11:35 AM

Thanks for the info!

equalspequals 10-17-2013 03:26 PM

Thanks man

freakfiles 11-15-2013 08:01 AM

Thanks but SEO is dead :D

Claudiu_Radu 12-06-2013 04:49 AM

best sum-up, ty

silviustr 12-12-2014 01:45 AM

Very interesting reading and thank you.

bella.franceska 12-12-2014 01:45 AM

Cool read!

miss.ralu 12-12-2014 02:30 AM

Excellent post, thanks a lot !!

parleal 12-12-2014 02:30 AM

This is HUGE man, thanks!

thecatwrites 12-12-2014 08:45 PM

My knowledge in SEO is still very limited and I have learned a lot from this article. Thank you GFY, and thank you Lloyd!

Mark Suris 12-13-2014 05:00 AM

Thanks for this huge amount of information! keep up the good work

VladisMarines 12-13-2014 05:01 AM

Thanks mate

j3rkules 01-05-2016 11:55 AM

Very interesting reading and thank you.

Gandolph 01-27-2016 05:31 AM

Thanks for the info

Tomxxx 02-03-2016 12:12 PM

tnx for nice post baddog!

baddog 02-04-2016 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Tomxxx (Post 20719697)
tnx for nice post baddog!

You are welcome; please be advised this article was written 5.5 years ago and things have definitely changed. One thing that has remained the same is that there are still reasons for keeping properties separate and if you need them, GotWebHost.com still has multiple Class Cs available

blogspot 02-23-2016 01:47 PM

Great Article thanks man!

MrBeavis 05-27-2016 09:46 AM

Great tutorial.
I wonder why I can't find anything on GFY about adult websites and SEO.

j3rkules 05-27-2016 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBeavis (Post 20922896)
Great tutorial.
I wonder why I can't find anything on GFY about adult websites and SEO.

It is simple, people do not want to share information with competitors.

celandina 05-28-2016 07:42 AM

Is this still relevant 6 years later ????:2 cents:

randyrole 05-29-2016 08:44 AM

good article! loved reading it

MrBeavis 05-29-2016 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by jerkules (Post 20923700)
It is simple, people do not want to share information with competitors.

Isn't sharing information what people do on GFY?
The GFY Educational Series on GFY share a lot of information.

I am wondering why there is no general topic about trading backlinks and SEO.

j3rkules 05-29-2016 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBeavis (Post 20926073)
Isn't sharing information what people do on GFY?
The GFY Educational Series on GFY share a lot of information.

I am wondering why there is no general topic about trading backlinks and SEO.

I am mean the majority of people (check the main forum, there are very few business threads, not to mention educational ones...), but of course you can find guys that are willing to help newbies.

https://gfy.com/forum27/ is the best one section on gfy with a lot of useful advices.

MrBeavis 06-05-2016 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jerkules (Post 20926145)
I am mean the majority of people (check the main forum, there are very few business threads, not to mention educational ones...), but of course you can find guys that are willing to help newbies.

gfy.com/forum27/is the best one section on gfy with a lot of useful advices.

Ok, thanks for the advice. The article on your website seems usefull, I will check it out.


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