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  • Fat Panda
    Porn is Dead. Move along.
    • Aug 2006
    • 13296

    #46
    Matt Cutts is the man, like he says it makes no difference what so ever...

    http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/myth-b...-ip-addresses/
    Last edited by Fat Panda; 02-08-2010, 04:12 PM.

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    • baddog
      So Fucking Banned
      • Apr 2001
      • 107089

      #47
      Originally posted by greg80
      Can you answer my question please. Thank you.
      Not exactly. Again, this is why I said do not draw attention to yourself by unnatural actions.

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      • baddog
        So Fucking Banned
        • Apr 2001
        • 107089

        #48
        Originally posted by SAC
        Matt Cutts is the man, like he says it makes no difference what so ever...

        http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/myth-b...-ip-addresses/
        I am sorry, we are not here for Page Rank, we are here for SERPS.

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        • CYF
          Coupon Guru
          • Mar 2009
          • 10973

          #49
          Originally posted by baddog
          I love when people use that quote.

          #1. What does it have to do with the price of tea in China? It has zero to do with the subject.
          Your article describes using sites on different IP addresses to link to each other. "SEO Hosting".

          The quote from Matt Cutts clearly states "Google handles virtually hosted domains and their links just the same as domains on unique IP addresses"

          It has everything to do with the subject.

          #2. You think because MC said it, it must be true?
          Matt Cutts is head of Google's Webspam team, I really doubt he'd go out and spread some bullshit. Whereas you clearly have a vested interest in SEO hosting.
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          • Oracle Porn
            Affiliate
            • Oct 2002
            • 24433

            #50
            matt cutts does spread some "fake info" every now and then to combat black hat

            but going from that to baddog saying "if mc said that it must be true?" no no, if baddog said that then it must be true. roflcopter @ seo hosting


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            tube hosting
            linklist hosting
            and anything you wanna name it hosting, but that plan costs 3x.
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            • baddog
              So Fucking Banned
              • Apr 2001
              • 107089

              #51
              Originally posted by CYF
              Your article describes using sites on different IP addresses to link to each other. "SEO Hosting".

              The quote from Matt Cutts clearly states "Google handles virtually hosted domains and their links just the same as domains on unique IP addresses"

              It has everything to do with the subject.



              Matt Cutts is head of Google's Webspam team, I really doubt he'd go out and spread some bullshit. Whereas you clearly have a vested interest in SEO hosting.

              I am sorry, when have I EVER suggested virtual hosting won't work? Shared server, dedicated IP = good thing. Shared server, shared IP, not so much. If you are only interested in PR, I guess it would suffice.

              As far as Cutts is concerned, you do realize that G wants zero SEO.

              If you are going to quote people, how about the godfather of SEO?

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              • Oracle Porn
                Affiliate
                • Oct 2002
                • 24433

                #52
                50 seo hosting for sell cheapz!


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                • OldRobert
                  Confirmed User
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 13

                  #53
                  He's wrong about the "host crowding" all the time .. since he started offering his service.

                  "For several years Google has used something called ?host crowding,? which means that Google will show up to two results from each hostname/subdomain of a domain name. That approach works very well to show 1-2 results from a subdomain..."

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                  • CYF
                    Coupon Guru
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 10973

                    #54
                    Originally posted by baddog
                    I am sorry, when have I EVER suggested virtual hosting won't work? Shared server, dedicated IP = good thing. Shared server, shared IP, not so much. If you are only interested in PR, I guess it would suffice.
                    Your terminology is a little off there.

                    "Virtual hosting is a method for hosting multiple domain names on a computer using a single IP address."

                    I wasn't talking about virtual private servers.
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                    • baddog
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Apr 2001
                      • 107089

                      #55
                      Originally posted by CYF
                      Your terminology is a little off there.

                      "Virtual hosting is a method for hosting multiple domain names on a computer using a single IP address."

                      I wasn't talking about virtual private servers.
                      And he is talking about Page Rank. I will always recommend a dedicated IP over a shared any day of the week. I will also listen to people like Bruce Clay, who will INSIST that you host your site on a dedicated IP or they will not accept you as a client.

                      If you ask 10 different SEO's the same question you will get 10 answers. Again, I am not trying to sell you. You go with what works for you.

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                      • Eric
                        Confirmed User
                        • Dec 2000
                        • 8818

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Oracle Porn
                        50 seo hosting for sell cheapz!
                        The rules of these threads were clear

                        http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=950712

                        THE RULES:
                        1) Trolling in GFY Educational Threads will be grounds for immediate banning for one week.

                        2) Using the GFY Educational threads as a platform to Spam will be removed and a warning issued.


                        I was not fucking around with these. You are banned till next week. You can contact me at that time for unbanning.
                        Last edited by Eric; 02-08-2010, 10:29 PM.
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                          • Nov 2003
                          • 32195

                          #57
                          Great post, BD

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                          • Jdoughs
                            Confirmed User
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 5794

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Eric
                            The rules of these threads were clear

                            http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=950712

                            THE RULES:
                            1) Trolling in GFY Educational Threads will be grounds for immediate banning for one week.

                            2) Using the GFY Educational threads as a platform to Spam will be removed and a warning issued.


                            I was not fucking around with these. You are banned till next month. You can contact me at that time for unbanning.
                            How many actual, real, SEO webmasters do you see using similar services, and what qualifies the O.P as an authority worthy of educating anyone on Search Engine Optimization? This isn't trolling, this is a serious question. Chosing this as a debut topic for the new 'area' was maybe a bad idea, its fairly controversial.

                            There is no way to prove any of these claims, and no direct evidence the O.P can provide to back any of it up. Its all marketing hype.

                            Saying not to spam them (in this case) is a little bizarre for me, since this whole post is a blatant spam for his own services, which many SEO webmasters do not use to begin with. I've been gaming google for 6 years, and have a pretty lengthy, and surprisingly thorough contact list. Guess how many of them use services like this? Zero of them. Guess how many SEO noobs ask about it and how important it is? Almost all of them.

                            What am I missing here? I was excited to see some quality posts for this new forum. If this is the 'grand debut', it certainly has crippled my excitement.

                            'If you ask 10 SEO's they will all say different" another default snakeoil response, ask 10 SEO's who actually have a clue, and have actual sites that rank, THEN SEE WHAT THEY SAY.

                            This is all smoke and mirrors, and if not, it should be pretty clear for the OP to produce examples or links showing how this information is actually is factual (which a lot of is just the opposite, or twisted versions of the facts, already pointed out many times earlier). Maybe an educational post should not be made by someone biased (monetarily) about the value of the information. I mean, he plans to profit off people believing this. It is NOT unbiased, factual information no matter how you slice it.

                            He may or may not be fairly educated at hosting, but his SEO results, and rankings are very much a question to most posters here, I think there needs to be some standard for such 'educational' posts.

                            Baddog, as much as I'd like to take a poke, this isn't really meant to be. I'm speaking more to the issue of seo hosting, and many of its myths, that coincidentally, play strong into your businesses success.

                            If I'm trolling and this is breaking the rules, guess I'll see you all in a week or two, but I would think that constructive discussion on these threads should be encouraged and would add to the value of each one of them.
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                            • beemk
                              CLICK HERE
                              • Jan 2002
                              • 20829

                              #59
                              anyone who knows anything about seo knows that baddog is a snakesoil salesman. he has yet to show any decent serp on a term with any decent traffic.
                              I host with Vacares

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                              • Eric
                                Confirmed User
                                • Dec 2000
                                • 8818

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Jdoughs
                                How many actual, real, SEO webmasters do you see using similar services, and what qualifies the O.P as an authority worthy of educating anyone on Search Engine Optimization? This isn't trolling, this is a serious question. Chosing this as a debut topic for the new 'area' was maybe a bad idea, its fairly controversial.

                                There is no way to prove any of these claims, and no direct evidence the O.P can provide to back any of it up. Its all marketing hype.

                                Saying not to spam them (in this case) is a little bizarre for me, since this whole post is a blatant spam for his own services, which many SEO webmasters do not use to begin with. I've been gaming google for 6 years, and have a pretty lengthy, and surprisingly thorough contact list. Guess how many of them use services like this? Zero of them. Guess how many SEO noobs ask about it and how important it is? Almost all of them.

                                What am I missing here? I was excited to see some quality posts for this new forum. If this is the 'grand debut', it certainly has crippled my excitement.

                                'If you ask 10 SEO's they will all say different" another default snakeoil response, ask 10 SEO's who actually have a clue, and have actual sites that rank, THEN SEE WHAT THEY SAY.

                                This is all smoke and mirrors, and if not, it should be pretty clear for the OP to produce examples or links showing how this information is actually is factual (which a lot of is just the opposite, or twisted versions of the facts, already pointed out many times earlier). Maybe an educational post should not be made by someone biased (monetarily) about the value of the information. I mean, he plans to profit off people believing this. It is NOT unbiased, factual information no matter how you slice it.

                                He may or may not be fairly educated at hosting, but his SEO results, and rankings are very much a question to most posters here, I think there needs to be some standard for such 'educational' posts.

                                Baddog, as much as I'd like to take a poke, this isn't really meant to be. I'm speaking more to the issue of seo hosting, and many of its myths, that coincidentally, play strong into your businesses success.

                                If I'm trolling and this is breaking the rules, guess I'll see you all in a week or two, but I would think that constructive discussion on these threads should be encouraged and would add to the value of each one of them.
                                Maybe before taking off on your rant you should learn to pay attention to what is BOLD in my post. Oracle Porn was banned for trolling this thread, not spamming. Therefore, he is banned for one week. We set the rules, they are not for debate.

                                Beyond that, you are certainly welcome to your opinion. But keep the debate constructive and on topic. In many cases people will end up learning far more in the long run through a debate. If you want to bring your knowledge to the table. We more than welcome that, and as stated in our announcement thread please contact us and we would love to have more and more people bringing their knowledge to the table.

                                Lastly, this is not the first of these posts. As stated in our announcement thread, this series began on February 1st. You can find the first of the series in the GFY Educational series forum section.
                                Last edited by Eric; 02-08-2010, 10:27 PM.
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