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Dcat 04-27-2011 04:56 PM

So, it turns out OBAMA's Just Released Long Form Birth Certificate *WAS* a forgery!
 
-OOOPS! ..Seems that someone dropped the ball and forgot to compress the layers of the .PDF before releasing the file.



I just tested it myself in Adobe Illustrator. You can download Obama's Official Long Form Birth Certificate (from whitehouse.gov) and decide for yourself:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/defa...-long-form.pdf

:upsidedow

IllTestYourGirls 04-27-2011 04:58 PM

I heard layers are automatically created and it is not a forgery. I doubt the CIA or Obama's people would be that bad. Obama was born in HI.

marketsmart 04-27-2011 04:59 PM

oh jesus..

not this shit again...

some people believe in aliens and some people don't..

there is information that would support either belief..

same with god...





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JFK 04-27-2011 04:59 PM

took em long enough to do it and they fuck up ??:1orglaugh

kristin 04-27-2011 04:59 PM

And what will you do about it? Nothing, carry on.

Agent 488 04-27-2011 05:00 PM

http://www.favstocks.com/political-c...rican/2750583/

u-Bob 04-27-2011 05:02 PM

ok, now if that guy ever dies in some mysterious accident....

Dcat 04-27-2011 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 18092134)
I heard layers are automatically created and it is not a forgery. I doubt the CIA or Obama's people would be that bad. Obama was born in HI.

Who knows, you can never be sure of anything these days. I also heard that if you examine it pixel by pixel, there are editting artifacts. It will be interesting to see what the experts (on both sides) have to say when they examine it. This “birther” thing is such a circus. :2 cents:

Brujah 04-27-2011 05:15 PM

I heard if you hold it up to the bathroom mirror, in the dark, and say "Tea Party" three times, Sarah Palin fucks you in the ass with a cactus.

http://flowtv.org/wp-content/uploads...jokerpalin.jpg

IllTestYourGirls 04-27-2011 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dcat (Post 18092158)
Who knows, you can never be sure of anything these days. I also heard that if you examine it pixel by pixel, there are editting artifacts. It will be interesting to see what the experts (on both sides) have to say when they examine it. This ?birther? thing is such a circus. :2 cents:

Yup. Keeps us away from the fact that we are in 4 wars.

DWB 04-27-2011 05:21 PM

Pretty odd I must say.

Shouldn't be able to turn layers on and off like that.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 04-27-2011 05:28 PM

What passes for American politics sure is entertaining...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_AifTlZtdxx...10+results.jpg

http://www.funnypictureblog.com/wp-c...0/04/10339.gif

ADG

nextri 04-27-2011 05:31 PM

It's because adobe acrobat creates those layers automatically when it scans the document for text to make i searchable. Try it with any document with text that you scan, and you will see the same thing.

Ayden Rush 04-27-2011 05:32 PM

...of course

Dcat 04-27-2011 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18092183)
Pretty odd I must say.

Shouldn't be able to turn layers on and off like that.

Yes, and if you look closely at the text layers (that you can toggle off and on), the characters don't match the other text in the background layers. The characters look lighter, and are slightly out of alignment.

I should make up an animated gif of this to demonstrate.

TheDoc 04-27-2011 05:33 PM

ǝןdoǝd ǝɯos oʇ ʍǝu ןןıʇs s,ʇı 'ʇǝuɹǝʇuı ǝɥʇ

BV 04-27-2011 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nextri (Post 18092199)
It's because adobe acrobat creates those layers automatically when it scans the document for text to make i searchable. Try it with any document with text that you scan, and you will see the same thing.


ding ding ding, we have a winner

Agent 488 04-27-2011 05:38 PM

http://www.henrymakow.com/BetterExplanation.jpg

JFK 04-27-2011 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18092203)
ǝןdoǝd ǝɯos oʇ ʍǝu ןןıʇs s,ʇı 'ʇǝuɹǝʇuı ǝɥʇ


? niaga taht saw tahw yrros am I

2MuchMark 04-27-2011 05:49 PM

President Obama should not have released this, you know why? Because people believe what they want to believe. Show someone proof positive that their beliefs are wrong, and they pull it apart and look for any reason to cast doubt and to give their own beliefs another glimmer of hope, no matter how stupid and fucked up it is.

Here's the truth. Obama is a BLACK PRESIDENT. Racist republicans need to take this fact up their ass and accept it already. Next, he's doing a good job despite the shitstorm that he inherited from ol' GWB and he would be doing an even better job if the GOP didn't get in his way on every.single.thing.this.man.tries.to.do.

As a non American I am completely stunned by the constant bullshit that gets in the way of progress in the US. Very sad.

brassmonkey 04-27-2011 05:50 PM

are you smoking maple leaves?

alessergod 04-27-2011 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18092203)
ǝןdoǝd ǝɯos oʇ ʍǝu ןןıʇs s,ʇı 'ʇǝuɹǝʇuı ǝɥʇ

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

FlexxAeon 04-27-2011 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nextri (Post 18092199)
It's because adobe acrobat creates those layers automatically when it scans the document for text to make i searchable. Try it with any document with text that you scan, and you will see the same thing.

thank you

fuck... really people?

jeezus...

PornoMonster 04-27-2011 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nextri (Post 18092199)
It's because adobe acrobat creates those layers automatically when it scans the document for text to make i searchable. Try it with any document with text that you scan, and you will see the same thing.

can someone reproduce this???

Agent 488 04-27-2011 05:58 PM

just tried it with a document and layers were not created.

Babaganoosh 04-27-2011 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornoMonster (Post 18092247)
can someone reproduce this???

Everyone with a copy of acrobat can duplicate this.

TripleXPrint 04-27-2011 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV (Post 18092210)
ding ding ding, we have a winner

I didn't realize that it stamped out the background, too.

Dcat 04-27-2011 06:02 PM

It's not like regular OCR.

Here's an animation I made up. Only 800 pixels wide.

http://postimage.org/image/179gnnuro/

PornoMonster 04-27-2011 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 18092253)
Everyone with a copy of acrobat can duplicate this.

tell me step by step, with a document, and I will do it with a birth cert
Thanks

FlexxAeon 04-27-2011 06:09 PM

speaking as someone with some 'experience' in this 'field' *cough cough*

EVEN IF it were forged...

you wouldn't be cutting around fucking letters or shit that doesn't even need to be modified...

...acrobat would be the LAST program you would use to do any modifying of the document....

etc...

TripleXPrint 04-27-2011 06:09 PM

OCR technology does convert images to text but it sure as hell doesn't knock out the background in the process. You're saying that Acrobat has the ability to knock out a background and convert images to to text. Also, when it, layers images to text, the text is selectable so you can search or copy/paste. Finally, why was only the personal information layered and not the actual raw certificate information such a name, State, etc? OCR usually scans typed images better than hand written text.

I'm not saying, I'm just saying......

TripleXPrint 04-27-2011 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlexxAeon (Post 18092273)
...acrobat would be the LAST program you would use to do any modifying of the document....

PDF files can be modified with any graphic application. Adobe, Microsoft, Mac...etc. I don't know of anyone that designs in Acrobat...if it's even possible.

FlexxAeon 04-27-2011 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TripleXPrint (Post 18092282)
PDF files can be modified with any graphic application. Adobe, Microsoft, Mac...etc. I don't know of anyone that designs in Acrobat...if it's even possible.

lol............................................... ..........

those are obviously layers rendered by acrobat, not layers preserved via photoshop, unless designers these days name all their layers <Group> <Group> <Group>...

wait, why the fuck am i still in this thread? :1orglaugh bye birthers!

woj 04-27-2011 06:17 PM

the background was added in for sure... lines on the certificate are curved near the edge, background is not... :2 cents:

Overload 04-27-2011 06:18 PM

you have serious problems in the US ... and it aint yer president ... your whole fucking system sucks, so why pick on a single person? really strange to see how much time ppl waste on useless shit and shit-stirring for nuthin ...

AAB 04-27-2011 06:20 PM

Like there has ever been any doubt that Obama is a fake...

BFT3K 04-27-2011 06:22 PM

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rowan 04-27-2011 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 18092291)
the background was added in for sure... lines on the certificate are curved near the edge, background is not... :2 cents:

Yeah, that's pretty obvious, but if you look at the bottom it's a notarised copy. You would assume that the original was photocopied onto a page with that background, which shows that it's a valid copy and there's no alterations (at the time it was notarised)

HOWEVER... I did notice that when I scrolled the pdf, the green background momentarily disappeared but the text didn't. Fiddled a bit but couldn't reproduce this, nor could I find any way to view individual layers in my reader. The guy doing this video did have a way and he shows it's not just a flat scan of a document.

TripleXPrint 04-27-2011 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlexxAeon (Post 18092289)
lol............................................... ..........

those are obviously layers rendered by acrobat, not layers preserved via photoshop, unless designers these days name all their layers <Group> <Group> <Group>...

wait, why the fuck am i still in this thread? :1orglaugh bye birthers!

Apparently the only design software you've used is MSPaint. I design quite a bit and and always group and name layers. When you have 100+ layers it's easier and minimizes file size. I'm not a birther, I just really dislike Obama.

FlexxAeon 04-27-2011 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TripleXPrint (Post 18092345)
Apparently the only design software you've used is MSPaint. I design quite a bit and and always group and name layers. When you have 100+ layers it's easier and minimizes file size.

lol nice try on the MS paint crack but no..... i've used them all extensively

i said "unless designers these days name all their layers <Group> <Group> <Group>"

so what programs have YOU used?? :1orglaugh

Quote:

Originally Posted by TripleXPrint (Post 18092345)
I'm not a birther, I just really dislike Obama.

same difference these days.

you can dislike obama. i wasn't a fan of bush, myself. but i wasn't on the 9-11 conspiracy wagon because of it





ok i'm gone for REAL this time :1orglaugh


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