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digitalfantasies 10-01-2012 05:29 AM

Content doesn't matter anymore for SEO
 
At least.. that is my conclusion...

last few updates I noticed that google devalued my handwritten unique and relevant blogs. My EMD blog is now ranking lower than less relevant sites for that keyword... When I look at my competition for my keywords, I feel confident saying that my sites are more relevant, have better content and suit what the surfer is looking for perfectly...Basically I am outranked by 5 of the same WhiteLabels...

Google sure loves thin affiliate sites :thumbsup

At the same time I notice that also my WhiteLabel keeps ranking in the top... a WL that is similar to 1000's or maybe 10.000's of other Wl's... Again.. Google sure loves thin affiliate sites :thumbsup

Conclusion... content doesn't matter anymore... You can spend hours and hours a day writing unique and relevant content like me.. because you thought (like me) that google will appreciate your hard work. The opposite it true... in the end you only need a few articles or just a WL and 10000 backlinks... Writing unique quality articles doesn't help you one bit if you do not have enough backlinks...

actually I think the only thing that matters now is backlinks

google... :321GFY

lakerslive 10-01-2012 05:36 AM

You've gone nuts.

digitalfantasies 10-01-2012 05:37 AM

Btw.. I will keep writing unique articles... because I am hoping google will come to it's senses one day and reward sites like mine in stead of for example WL's

digitalfantasies 10-01-2012 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lakerslive (Post 19220675)
You've gone nuts.

thanks, :2 cents: indeed search engines can have that effect on me sometimes

CyberHustler 10-01-2012 05:43 AM

:1orglaugh

brassmonkey 10-01-2012 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lakerslive (Post 19220675)
You've gone nuts.

:1orglaugh

Phoenix69 10-01-2012 05:54 AM

I need to ask how anyone who promotes Chaturbate WL's can accept that all Chaturbate WL's will show the below for the Meta description in Google or other :

freesexcams69.com/
A description for this result is not available because of this site's robots.txt ? learn more

Chaturbate say :

"Based on our SEO guys recommendation we're not going to change the robots.txt. We don't intend for people to use these whitelabels for SEO purposes. "

I never understood that ?

nickutis 10-01-2012 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digitalfantasies (Post 19220663)
At least.. that is my conclusion...

last few updates I noticed that google devalued my handwritten unique and relevant blogs. My EMD blog is now ranking lower than less relevant sites for that keyword... When I look at my competition for my keywords, I feel confident saying that my sites are more relevant, have better content and suit what the surfer is looking for perfectly...Basically I am outranked by 5 of the same WhiteLabels...

Google sure loves thin affiliate sites :thumbsup

At the same time I notice that also my WhiteLabel keeps ranking in the top... a WL that is similar to 1000's or maybe 10.000's of other Wl's... Again.. Google sure loves thin affiliate sites :thumbsup

Conclusion... content doesn't matter anymore... You can spend hours and hours a day writing unique and relevant content like me.. because you thought (like me) that google will appreciate your hard work. The opposite it true... in the end you only need a few articles or just a WL and 10000 backlinks... Writing unique quality articles doesn't help you one bit if you do not have enough backlinks...

actually I think the only thing that matters now is backlinks

google... :321GFY

I feel your pain. Getting hit hard on my handwritten blog network also..

RyuLion 10-01-2012 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digitalfantasies (Post 19220677)
Btw.. I will keep writing unique articles... because I am hoping google will come to it's senses one day and reward sites like mine in stead of for example WL's

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

3xmedia 10-01-2012 06:02 AM

WL's usually have 1000's of indexed pages and provide what surfers want if they are searching for cam/live sex terms, so not sure what you are talking about.

digitalfantasies 10-01-2012 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by zdeneczek (Post 19220699)
WL's usually have 1000's of indexed pages and provide what surfers want if they are searching for cam/live sex terms, so not sure what you are talking about.

a WL is the perfect example of a thin affiliate site... google said they are punishing thin affiliates sites, so why do they get the top positions? That is what I am talking about

digitalfantasies 10-01-2012 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix69 (Post 19220693)
I need to ask how anyone who promotes Chaturbate WL's can accept that all Chaturbate WL's will show the below for the Meta description in Google or other :

freesexcams69.com/
A description for this result is not available because of this site's robots.txt – learn more

Chaturbate say :

"Based on our SEO guys recommendation we're not going to change the robots.txt. We don't intend for people to use these whitelabels for SEO purposes. "

I never understood that ?

yes, that policy sucks IMO, I also wasn't referring to my Chaturbate WL when I wrote about top rankings

3xmedia 10-01-2012 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digitalfantasies (Post 19220707)
a WL is the perfect example of a thin affiliate site... google said they are punishing thin affiliates sites, so why do they get the top positions? That is what I am talking about

probably because they provide what surfers want... doubt people searching for "live sex" etc. are looking for any hand-written blogs...

just a punk 10-01-2012 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digitalfantasies (Post 19220677)
Btw.. I will keep writing unique articles... because I am hoping google will come to it's senses one day and reward sites like mine in stead of for example WL's

Won't happen. I told about it a number of times while Google was moving to it, and now it's there. They want you to make sites for real people but not for search engines, so "uniqueness" of your blog posts doesn't matter anymore. The most important things are: the time the surfers spend on your time, the depth of surfing, % of returned surfers and low bounce rate.

Let's imagine you have two blogs about mobile phones: a hand written one and an autoblog which syndicates mobile-related video reviews from various sources (e.g. YouTube channels). Try to guess on which site the surfer will stay longer? Who wants to read a boring keyword-rich "unique" text winch was written for search engines if there is a cool site full of relevant videos, even if these videos are not "unique"?

This is why your hand-written blog can't beat a properly made autoblog anymore.

Sid70 10-01-2012 06:49 AM

Time to dump google, no?

Failed 10-01-2012 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19220779)
This is why your hand-written blog can't beat a properly made autoblog anymore.

And this is your non-biased opinion?

Phoenix69 10-01-2012 06:52 AM

Agreed. Now would be the absolute worst time to send volume of unproductive traffic to a new site and give it a ridiculous bounce rate. You would fuck that site's chances of ranking good and proper.

Sid70 10-01-2012 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19220779)
They want you to make sites for real people but not for search engines, so "uniqueness" of your blog posts doesn't matter anymore. The most important things are: the time the surfers spend on your time, the depth of surfing, % of returned surfers and low bounce rate.


Sounds logic.

just a punk 10-01-2012 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Failed (Post 19220790)
And this is your non-biased opinion?

Absolutely. I have both hand-written and automatically generated blogs. The SE traffic on handwritten ones has dropped dramatically, and I don't even update them anymore. Why? Because my autoblogs have incomparably more of quality content and they are being constantly updated a few times a day.

Look at Google SERPs for adult keywords. They all filled up with absolutely non-unique tube videos which usually don't have even a short description. Where all those hand-written blogs with "unique" content now? They've gone because surfers actually don't like them.

just a punk 10-01-2012 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix69 (Post 19220795)
Now would be the absolute worst time to send volume of unproductive traffic to a new site and give it a ridiculous bounce rate. You would fuck that site's chances of ranking good and proper.

Exactly :2 cents:

digitalfantasies 10-01-2012 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19220779)
Won't happen. I told about it a number of times while Google was moving to it, and now it's there. They want you to make sites for real people but not for search engines, so "uniqueness" of your blog posts doesn't matter anymore. The most important things are: the time the surfers spend on your time, the depth of surfing, % of returned surfers and low bounce rate.

Let's imagine you have two blogs about mobile phones: a hand written one and an autoblog which syndicates mobile-related video reviews from various sources (e.g. YouTube channels). Try to guess on which site the surfer will stay longer? Who wants to read a boring keyword-rich "unique" text winch was written for search engines if there is a cool site full of relevant videos, even if these videos are not "unique"?

This is why your hand-written blog can't beat a properly made autoblog anymore.

well that does makes sense I guess, but I still believe in quality handwritten reviews (for example), I already tried not to write for search engines, I always try to write reviews that surfers can actually use...reviews with useful info that will guide them when searching for sex. But I guess I should adapt too and make my sites more "cool" and fun to surf.. so surfers will stay and watch those relevant "videos" for example.

A balanced combination of what I do and what you suggest sounds best to me

Denny 10-01-2012 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digitalfantasies (Post 19220875)
well that does makes sense I guess, but I still believe in quality handwritten reviews (for example), I already tried not to write for search engines, I always try to write reviews that surfers can actually use...reviews with useful info that will guide them when searching for sex. But I guess I should adapt too and make my sites more "cool" and fun to surf.. so surfers will stay and watch those relevant "videos" for example.

A balanced combination of what I do and what you suggest sounds best to me

Sure, in this case you could rank well for terms like "cam site reviews" etc., but not for generic cam terms as that's not exactly what your site provides.

davethedope 10-01-2012 07:58 AM

By unique and hand-written do you mean:

"Wow, she's a hot slut. Look how she sucks that big cock."

SEE MORE AT BRAZZERS

:question

Relentless 10-01-2012 08:32 AM

I hope everyone follows your advice and stops producing original text content.
Letting me have all that SEO traffic would be much appreciated. ;)

digitalfantasies 10-01-2012 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 19221018)
I hope everyone follows your advice and stops producing original text content.
Letting me have all that SEO traffic would be much appreciated. ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denny (Post 19220929)
Sure, in this case you could rank well for terms like "cam site reviews" etc., but not for generic cam terms as that's not exactly what your site provides.

other area's of the site can rank for other terms

digitalfantasies 10-01-2012 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 19221018)
I hope everyone follows your advice and stops producing original text content.
Letting me have all that SEO traffic would be much appreciated. ;)

never said I will stop producing, I just said google doesn't seem to appreciate my original texts. At least not like before...

signupdamnit 10-01-2012 08:54 AM

Google is relying on back links now more than ever. That's primarily all it's about is your back links (which is silly but I'll save that discussion). If you have good back links which are not spammy you will come up first. If you have great unique content but no quality back links you'll lose. People forget too that affiliate content isn't technically original unique content. Google can even read flash now. To Google it's the same crap 1000 other sites have. The irony? You know those illegal tube sites? That content is seen as more unique and original than your affiliate content. Not everyone has it because it's supposed to only be available behind the pay wall in the member area. So to Google the illegal tubes have all sorts of unique, original content.

digitalfantasies 10-01-2012 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 19221065)
Google is relying on back links now more than ever. That's primarily all it's about is your back links (which is silly but I'll save that discussion). If you have good back links which are not spammy you will come up first. If you have great unique content but no quality back links you'll lose. People forget too that affiliate content isn't technically original unique content. Google can even read flash now. To Google it's the same crap 1000 other sites have.

I agree, and that's basically what I said in the beginning:

"actually I think the only thing that matters now is backlinks"

baddog 10-01-2012 09:42 AM

All that matters is backlinks, yet everyone is scrambling to get old backlinks removed. Sweet.

lakerslive 10-01-2012 09:45 AM

Yes, its all about backlinks!! get to work yo

halfpint 10-01-2012 09:48 AM

My blogs all have hand written unique content on them, What i seem to find is whenever I do an Update my traffic falls whether its because of the keywords used in the last update post I dont know, But I have def seen a drop in traffic on my older blogs with hand written content

just a punk 10-01-2012 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 19221018)
Letting me have all that SEO traffic would be much appreciated. ;)

You'll steal it from tubes. Good luck on that :winkwink:

just a punk 10-01-2012 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 19221065)
Google is relying on back links now more than ever.

Not after Penguin.

DamageX 10-01-2012 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19221230)
Not after Penguin.

Actually even more after Penguin.

signupdamnit 10-01-2012 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19221230)
Not after Penguin.

Not just any backlinks but quality backlinks. Quality means backlinks which Google does not detect as fishy for whatever reason. It merely added a way for people who know what they are doing to further game the system. As long as you are within the expected profile you can add backlinks to get ahead. The people who try to do it naturally will be below you or in some cases even penalized because THEY are seen as low quality. To Google a site with not many good backlinks is now one of the main ways to get classified as "low quality". Google is now 90% a popularity engine, 10% search engine proper.

just a punk 10-01-2012 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 19221240)
Actually even more after Penguin.

That depends on origin (relevance) and format (% of keywords in anchors) of those links.

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 19221258)
Not just any backlinks but quality backlinks.

Correct.

2012 10-01-2012 07:12 PM

SEO :1orglaugh

WiredGuy 10-02-2012 05:52 PM

I've been doing some pretty large scale testing on quality factors such as time on page, bounce rates and various flows throughout a site (with Analytics powered sites), and to say the least, the information Google collects from analytics plays a large factor in rankings. Backlinks and pagerank seem to have diminished dramatically compared to quality factors.
WG

CyberHustler 10-02-2012 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2012 (Post 19222349)
SEO :1orglaugh

:thumbsup

Django 10-02-2012 06:03 PM

if it is true that they evaluate the bounce rate by GA this would be a breach of data records


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