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scottybuzz 05-01-2013 10:03 AM

5 year old kills 2 year old sister with "my first rifle"
 
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2...-shot/2126431/

:(:(

Thoughts?

AaronM 05-01-2013 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by scottybuzz (Post 19607152)

Obviously it's tragic.

The remaining child needs to be taken from the parents and they should be prosecuted. :2 cents:

_Richard_ 05-01-2013 10:05 AM

damn that is sad

BlackCrayon 05-01-2013 10:19 AM

guns shouldn't be marketed to kids under 16.

Penny24Seven 05-01-2013 10:26 AM

if the 2 year old had a gun

tokmansta 05-01-2013 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 19607201)
guns shouldn't be marketed to kids under 16.

under 21...

sandman! 05-01-2013 10:29 AM

sad :disgust

adult-help 05-01-2013 10:30 AM

who the fuck gives a gun as a gift to 4 year old child? only in america!

sadly the only thing that comes to my mind in regards to this incident is sarcastic : 'merica fuck yeah

Scott McD 05-01-2013 10:30 AM

Well isn't that just great...

MaDalton 05-01-2013 10:39 AM

should have bought one of those

http://einestages.spiegel.de/hund-im...cument_xxl.jpg


on a serious note: i'd prefer a world with no guns but since thats not possible, parents should at least make sure they are out of reach of children.

and it's absurd that you can not have a beer until you are 21 but you can market guns to children: http://www.crickett.com/

i mean - wtf?

http://www.crickett.com/crickett_kidscorner.php

and some people wonder whats wrong with society...

Rochard 05-01-2013 10:57 AM

Fucking lack of supervision is what this is.

It has nothing to do with guns. When my kid was five and played outside, we used to sit and watch. No tablet, no cell phone, just watching. Yesterday I was outside washing my car and the neighborhood kids were playing outside, no parents at all. There are two houses with kids the same age and they are across the street from each other, and they cross the street all the time. Yesterday the six year old girl - the oldest of them all - waiting for a car to pass before crossing the street, then darted out behind it... Not noticing there was a second car that might have hit her. It wasn't "danger close" but it was the thought.

These kids are four and five years old and completely unsupervised on a daily basis.

Fat Panda 05-01-2013 11:00 AM

the parents of this child should be ARRESTED and charged with MURDER

CyberHustler 05-01-2013 11:03 AM

where's Franck?

2012 05-01-2013 11:03 AM

demonize gun owners
demonize gun owners
demonize gun owners
demonize gun owners

yea !

http://i.imgur.com/CLXOG6J.jpg

only the good folks looking out for your best interests at "the government" should have guns

Dirty F 05-01-2013 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adult-help (Post 19607232)
who the fuck gives a gun as a gift to 4 year old child? only in america!

sadly the only thing that comes to my mind in regards to this incident is sarcastic : 'merica fuck yeah

Only in America and a bunch of other 3rd world countries.

I'm 100% sure the parents considered themselves responsible gun owners. And often mentioned how irresponsible gun owners are the true problem.

Dirty F 05-01-2013 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19607297)
Fucking lack of supervision is what this is.

It has nothing to do with guns.

That's fucking odd then. I could swear the 2 year old was killed with a gun. But i might be wrong. I'll read it again.

Dirty F 05-01-2013 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by 2012 (Post 19607312)
demonize gun owners
demonize gun owners
demonize gun owners
demonize gun owners

yea !

http://i.imgur.com/CLXOG6J.jpg

only the good folks looking out for your best interests at "the government" should have guns

It certainly would make things much, much safer.

crockett 05-01-2013 11:15 AM

Obviously, the parents were competent gun owners and the solution would be to make sure all 2 year olds have their own guns to defend themselves.

Anyone whom thinks otherwise hates freedom and is treading on my rights!

L-Pink 05-01-2013 11:15 AM

Nothing wrong with giving a kid a gun for a gift if it's only brought out at a range, safe place in the country, etc.

The fact it was not in a gun safe but in a corner of the family room, loaded yet, should leave the parents open for negligent manslaughter.

Dirty F 05-01-2013 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19607332)
Nothing wrong with giving a kid a gun for a gift if it's only brought out at a range, safe place in the country, etc.

The fact it was not in a gun safe but in a corner of the family room, loaded yet, should leave the parents open for negligent manslaughter.

Sure, nothing wrong with it. I mean what's the worst thing that could happen.

Rochard 05-01-2013 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 19607331)
Obviously, the parents were competent gun owners and the solution would be to make sure all 2 year olds have their own guns to defend themselves.

Anyone whom thinks otherwise hates freedom and is treading on my rights!

Well, if his sister was armed she would have been able to defend herself.

BlackCrayon 05-01-2013 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19607332)
Nothing wrong with giving a kid a gun for a gift if it's only brought out at a range, safe place in the country, etc.

The fact it was not in a gun safe but in a corner of the family room, loaded yet, should leave the parents open for negligent manslaughter.

a five year old though? they don't even know how to write but they should be using guns? i don't think there is anything wrong with teenagers learning how to shoot, preferably by taking a course. this is how it was around my area in high school. if the guys wanted to shoot guns they had to take a hunting course that taught them how to properly use, store and maintain a gun. they were only able to take this course at 15/16 years old.

SuckOnThis 05-01-2013 11:32 AM

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-pRFpGeHENZ...2-12.jpg-large

L-Pink 05-01-2013 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19607339)
Sure, nothing wrong with it. I mean what's the worst thing that could happen.

When I moved back to Florida years ago I gave a vintage Chevy pickup to my godson who was 9 ? "what's the worst thing that could happen"

Well if he has responsible parents a lot of positive things.

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Fat Panda 05-01-2013 11:34 AM

according to the NRA if the 2 year old had a gun she could have DEFENDED herself

Dirty F 05-01-2013 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19607373)
When I moved back to Florida years ago I gave a vintage Chevy pickup to my godson who was 9 ? "what's the worst thing that could happen"

Well if he has responsible parents a lot of positive things.

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Do you realize how goddamn fucked up your country and your way of thinking is if you think there is nothing with giving guns to kids? You may think it's normal but believe me, it's not. It's insane.
The so called freedom thing in the US has gone wrong. Very wrong.

crockett 05-01-2013 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 19607370)
a five year old though? they don't even know how to write but they should be using guns? i don't think there is anything wrong with teenagers learning how to shoot, preferably by taking a course. this is how it was around my area in high school. if the guys wanted to shoot guns they had to take a hunting course that taught them how to properly use, store and maintain a gun. they were only able to take this course at 15/16 years old.

Hey it was just a "little" gun marketed for kids.. no big deal..

L-Pink 05-01-2013 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19607380)
Do you realize how goddamn fucked up your country and your way of thinking is if you think there is nothing with giving guns to kids? You may think it's normal but believe me, it's not. It's insane.
The so called freedom thing in the US has gone wrong. Very wrong.


I was about that age when my grandfather gave me a .22 as well. I learned a gun wasn't a toy, you only took it out of the locked cabinet when my father was taking me can shooting, you never loaded the gun until you were in a safe place to shoot, you under no circumstances pointed a gun loaded or unloaded at anything you didn't want to shoot and the safety and trigger were never touched until the target was visible.

It's called responsibility ?.. something more people need.

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geedub 05-01-2013 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by adult-help (Post 19607232)
who the fuck gives a gun as a gift to 4 year old child? only in america!

sadly the only thing that comes to my mind in regards to this incident is sarcastic : 'merica fuck yeah

My grandpa gave me a .22lr for my 4th birthday, I still have it, my dad had to help me hold it when I shot it the first time. For my 12th birthday I got a Remington 870 express magnum 12ga. which I also still have. I have been shooting and hunting as long as I can remember and my dad has always showed me how to be responsible about owning firearms. You guys gotta realize there are way more people like me than there are people who do bad things. Obviously this is a horrible tragedy but at the end of the day the parents left a loaded rifle around some unattended kids. It's her fault, no one else.

crockett 05-01-2013 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19607380)
Do you realize how goddamn fucked up your country and your way of thinking is if you think there is nothing with giving guns to kids? You may think it's normal but believe me, it's not. It's insane.
The so called freedom thing in the US has gone wrong. Very wrong.

Oh I dunno Frank.. Looks like a pretty common thing.. You just hate freedom fries, just admit it..

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-RASoBPu30a...diercongo2.jpg

Dirty F 05-01-2013 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19607386)
I was about that age when my grandfather gave me a .22 as well. I learned a gun wasn't a toy, you only took it out of the locked cabinet when my father was taking me can shooting, you never loaded the gun until you were in a safe place to shoot, you under no circumstances pointed a gun loaded or unloaded at anything you didn't want to shoot and the safety and trigger were never touched until the target was visible.

It's called responsibility ?.. something more people need.

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Let me repeat it again. It's not normal to give guns to children. You might think so because this word freedom has been repeated to you from the day you were born. But it really isn't. You and your country are fucked.

L-Pink 05-01-2013 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19607402)
Let me repeat it again. It's not normal to give guns to children. You might think so because this word freedom has been repeated to you from the day you were born. But it really isn't. You and your country are fucked.

Freedom has nothing to do with anything. I can NEVER remember my parents even using the word. Different cultures. You have your point of view I have mine, why the open hostility?

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helterskelter808 05-01-2013 11:57 AM

The killer has a mental age of 5, which is considerably higher than most gun owners.

L-Pink 05-01-2013 11:57 AM

I'm going for my afternoon walk, 100% sure I'm not going to get shot.

Can't say the same about someone running me over irresponsibly multi-tasking while driving their car.

Later …….

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Dirty F 05-01-2013 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19607409)
Freedom has nothing to do with anything. I can NEVER remember my parents even using the word. Different cultures. You have your point of view I have mine, why the open hostility?

.

Oh ofcourse freedom has nothing to do with it. Gun owners would never asociate that with gun :1orglaugh

You're getting ridiculous now.

halfpint 05-01-2013 12:01 PM

What kind of parent would give a gun to a 4 year old and leave it loaded and not locked away unloaded ? The mind boggles .

BlackCrayon 05-01-2013 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19607421)
Oh ofcourse freedom has nothing to do with it. Gun owners would never asociate that with gun :1orglaugh

You're getting ridiculous now.

the whole 'freedom' thing is fairly new. back in l-pink's day guns were given to little boys because it was thought it helped make them into men and it was tradition that goes back to the days when you had to hunt for your food.

Dirty F 05-01-2013 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19607419)
I'm going for my afternoon walk, 100% sure I'm not going to get shot.

Can't say the same about someone running me over irresponsibly multi-tasking while driving their car.

Later ??.

.

And he we go again. It always easy to pick out the dumbest gun owners. It's the ones that start crying about cars and swimming pools. You know the thread has reached it's end.

Dirty F 05-01-2013 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 19607431)
the whole 'freedom' thing is fairly new..

Yup. Only a few 100 years new.

Dirty F 05-01-2013 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 19607429)
What kind of parent would give a gun to a 4 year old and leave it loaded and not locked away unloaded ? The mind boggles .

An American parent.


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