Fact: Paysite sales are dead
 

No matter what you're doing they will be declining
Money are everywhere but not in paysites (straight, mainstream, gay, fetish, bdsm, toons)
Customers' behavior patterns have changed to no return point. The content is overproduced and it's well-delivered thru well established free-net networks
We are keeping our sales steady and a little bit growing by enormous creativity and hardcore approach
Many webmasters have left this business, much more to come. There's no place for one-man company in this biz any longer.
There're still newcommers (idiots) investing in aff programs and bs services, most of which will never meet ROI

The industry needs new business model to prelace paysites and PayPal on board (while CCBill crashes and burns) as well as lesser suckers in here
I've donated StopFileLockers campaign, have you?

Have a good day everyone

so how are you making money? :) and i think it is called summer slowdown, isnt it last few months? :winkwink:

i'm actually growing over the summer, but not because of regular paysite sales
just finished report for July (delayed because of vacations) and analyzed some things

It's easy to fix, just replace with a porn NETFLIX and a porn ITUNES and it's done.

DUH!

IDIOTS!

Really.

You have your facts wrong, it should be: Paysites are no longer selling for MrDeiz.

If it's not selling for you doesn't mean it's not selling for others....

stats please :disgust

if you are up, then there is no problem, right? :winkwink: and if you have to work more for the same revenue, that might be a sign of summer slowdown, right? :winkwink: have luck with your business everyone! :thumbsup

How is that a fact? Our sales are rising.

people aren't buying porn in winter, autumn, spring and summer. you might call it a slowdown for every season.
i guess only 1% and lesser of those who watches porn actually gets it via paysites
sure you still can sell it to 1% of porn watchers, but it isn't serious

i've tested various sources and various amounts of traffic. if you want to make money in porn - don't sell paysites in a regular way (preview -> premium access). huge porn sites are generating traffic, but not selling porn

stats please

you can't catch a fish with a fish-rod in ocean if you are surrounded with illegal nets, and once fish doesn't like your bait. just that

there is differency, if there is 35degrees outside, nobody sits in room wanking, everyone is on vacation! if there are blizzards outside, people spending more time at computer, and if you know how and what to sell, some of them will still and always buy :winkwink:

sales seem steady.
douchebagery is on the rise though

Really? Man. Only in this industry will people demand seeing your numbers when you tell them your business is doing fine and your product is selling.

Jesus Christ!

http://pornflix.com/

U serious, and people wonder why this industry is gone and a fucking joke!

signupdamnit should post any second now to confirm what Mr Deiz is saying... :D

tube sites

ORLY? Tell me moar

http://i.imgur.com/NOldiY0.png

Quite impressive! Congrats

Hopefully things will start going back up for you in September.

you think $40k/m is cool for affiliate program? while you have to pay affiliates, billing, content and hosting costs...
but you are doing better than average aff program, so congrats on that. curious what's the program and paysite

I don't have to pay anyone. I run it all by myself with my own generated traffic.

If you have some brains, there is a lot of money to be made on the internets.

then it's cool :thumbsup

Impressive, but I assume thats a paysite, and probably you have affiliates and tons of other costs. So maybe none profit. Worse, look at your new joins this year, every month is steadily worse by July you are down by over half from January, once your rebills crap out you're fucked!

Don't see a problem with the biz??

Yes it's a paysite and there are no costs apart from 8% processing fee and $500/m in hosting. Traffic is my own and the content is cheap and non exclusive. So yeah, i'd say there is some profit :1orglaugh

Money is everywhere, free for the picking. You just gotta think outside the box :thumbsup

Nice work! :) But still, what about the future, the stats show a serious incoming joins problem, as everyone else is having. What are your plans to change that?? curious?

There's no problem, i've just been a lazy fuck lately. I'm making enough money to live comfortably so i slack a lot. If i spent more time working, sales would pick up.

great stuff..........

he is right, content is so cheap you can have five sites up and running with semi exclusive content like www.penelopesky.com
have someone make sites @ 200 each,
profit

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Deiz is statistically correct and responders are anecdotally correct

There is no need for me to confirm what is obvious to most of the world, including our potential customers. MrDeiz is a referrer for many affiliates to paysites so I would think he is aware of what is really going on from the affiliate side of things. He also used to keep a list of programs going out of business and changing things at http://www.signbucks.com/news/programs-changes until recently.

I always have to add this because every time I post someone takes what I say out of context and goes nuts but I'm not saying there is no money in porn and I'm not saying there is no money in paysites. Only that both are decline. Paysites/pre-recorded porn are declining more so than adult (includes webcams) overall and are the primary reason for the decline in adult.

If you think what I said above is bullshit, I am some broke loser, or whatever else then you may want to read this XBIZ article http://www.xbiz.com/news/151751 which says almost the same exact thing.

They had a poll among 300 XBIZ members who were asked how big the porn industry is today (2012).

Over $10 billion - 29%
Over $5 billion - 36%
Over $1 billion - 21%
Under $1 billion - 14%

Around 1998 for comparison it was estimated that porn was a $13 or $14 billion industry.

Hate me if you want. <shrug>

count in NATS license as well :upsidedow

rebills save you, you're low in terms of new sales

but again, that a great achievement, which isn't common for the industry (i know many programs and generating 1,000+ joins on a monthly basis as affiliate)

Funny at how some people disagree saying "its better" or "its steady".
No its not better, its worse. You overcome the decline by doing something better/smarter/harder, thats it.
Meaning that if you did exactly the same amount of work last year you would have earned more than this year. If you did the same amount 2011 you would have earned more than before. And so on. Thats what it means. Fact.

Post proof bro!!!

:upsidedow

I've bought full license couple years ago, don't have to pay monthly anymore


Now you are contradicting your first post.

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in what part? :winkwink:

you can find some of my stats at signbucks if you look for it

First you say that pretty much all affiliates have left. Then you say that there are many programs with affiliates generating 1000 of sales.

LOL you have got it wrong
i say i know many programs big and small
i also say that i'm generating 1000 joins as affiliate